Tories hit another fundraising record

[Ron in Regina]

How one acts in opposition is always different than when they govern, the cons always talk a big game of fiscal prudence but usually F it up and go the opposite way and we find ourselves buried in more debt and recessions only to have the Libs fix it all.

Don't believe me? Open a newspaper sometime, it's all their in black and white.:lol:

I love how you justify it though...."well the libs would put us deeper in debt"....too funny.

"Liberal Party is claiming even more $$$ should be thrown towards an
even larger deficit in the economic concept of a stimulus package" isn't
"well the libs would put us deeper in debt"...." but I'm glad I could make
you laugh!!! :lol: I just relayed what I'd read earlier in the paper. :lol:

 

[Colpy]

Colpy, do you EVER respond without the smoke screen? The word was represent NOT "supported by the average working man". Do Tories represent the worker? Not likely. Harper's own campaign was devoted to investors ... and he lies.

Now you are making my point for me!

If they "represent" the average working man, then that guy should dig down and send them a toonie or 50.

It is laziness, and non-involvement, not poverty, that keeps the other parties from making cash like the CPC........

 

[lone wolf]

Now you are making my point for me!

If they "represent" the average working man, then that guy should dig down and send them a toonie or 50.

It is laziness, and non-involvement, not poverty, that keeps the other parties from making cash like the CPC........

You know they aren't how? You know lazy first-hand do you? Who are you to make any sort of judgement? What happens if the average working man isn't ... you know ... working? When I went to school, $1100 was more cash value than "a toonie or 50". Of course, you being university educated and all, should know more about that. It's a lot like opening the mouth before the thought processor is fully engaged.

More money than brains....

 

[Colpy]

You know they aren't how? You know lazy first-hand do you? Who are you to make any sort of judgement? What happens if the average working man isn't ... you know ... working? When I went to school, $1100 was more cash value than "a toonie or 50". Of course, you being university educated and all, should know more about that. It's a lot like opening the mouth before the thought processor is fully engaged.

More money than brains....

Answer me a question: is it possible for you to carry on an adult conversation without becoming insulting, arrogant, and generally behaving like a petulant 6 year old?

I'd love to see it.

BTW, I've been unemployed since last April, so you can kiss my furry arse.

Yes, you've managed to get under my skin. If I could, I'd make you go stand in the corner and think about what you've done. You could come out when you can explain how you've improved your attitude.

 

[lone wolf]

Answer me a question: is it possible for you to carry on an adult conversation without becoming insulting, arrogant, and generally behaving like a petulant 6 year old?

I'd love to see it.

BTW, I've been unemployed since last April, so you can kiss my furry arse.

Yes, you've managed to get under my skin. If I could, I'd make you go stand in the corner and think about what you've done. You could come out when you can explain how you've improved your attitude.

It would be much easier to carry on a conversation with you if you weren't so holier than thou. I give as good as I get and it's obvious "you're an idiot" is the best one can expect from you ... unless we happen to think the same thoughts.

BTW... I really don't give a damn if you work or not. As hard a thing as it may be for you to accept ... I don't judge until the evidence is in. For what it's worth, I haven't been able to work since I was tossed by a fire hose into the bottom bead of a truck bed in 1993. Kiss your furry arse? Move your snotty nose first!

 

[Colpy]

It would be much easier to carry on a conversation with you if you weren't so holier than thou. I give as good as I get and it's obvious "you're an idiot" is the best one can expect from you ... unless we happen to think the same thoughts.

BTW... I really don't give a damn if you work or not. As hard a thing as it may be for you to accept ... I don't judge until the evidence is in. For what it's worth, I haven't been able to work since I was tossed by a fire hose into the bottom bead of a truck bed in 1993. Kiss your furry ass? Move your snotty nose first!

When did I ever call you an idiot?

What did I say in this thread that was condescending? I mean when we were actually trying to debate something.


Nothing.

Absolutely nothing.


Don't be so GD touchy fer cryin' out loud! It makes it hard to talk with you.

 

[Tonington]

From the Minister of Human Resources of the party that represents working Canadians:

Human Resources Minister Diane Finley has dismissed criticism about the latest budget's treatment of the unemployed, saying the federal Conservative government has no interest in making it "lucrative" for jobless workers to stay home.

Govt. won't pay unemployed to stay home: Minister

Ahh yes. That pervasive segment of right wing politics that says: if you're using the unemployment benefits during a global recession, benefits that you paid for with your taxes, you must be abusing the system...lazy bastard.

I just came across this and thought it was kind of humorous given Colpy and Wolf's tête-à-tête. :smile:

 

[lone wolf]

When did I ever call you an idiot?

Some opposing view about the happenings in Israel. When? Who cares?

What did I say in this thread that was condescending? I mean when we were actually trying to debate something.

"...The Conservative get all that cash because their supporters are engaged in the democratic process much more than supporters of other parties...."

Admittedly, it's milder than in some posts - and not as personal. Sucks that I've come to expect them.


Nothing.

Absolutely nothing.


Don't be so GD touchy fer cryin' out loud! It makes it hard to talk with you.

Now, If we have more to discuss that's not thread-related, let's get of Ron's thread to do it....

 

[Colpy]

Now, If we have more to discuss that's not thread-related, let's get of Ron's thread to do it....

Done. I think we've said it all anyway.

Good night.

 

[china]

Risus

The libs don't represent the working people. Who knows who they really represent...

Who knows who they really..... "obviously them self and their party.

 

[Walter]

The libs don't represent the working people. Who knows who they really represent...

Libs have always been affiliated with the Mafia. Just ask Gagliano and Zaccardelli.

 

[pegger]

It is laziness, and non-involvement, not poverty, that keeps the other parties from making cash like the CPC........

Sorry - I don't, and will never donate any funds to a political party becasue:

1) I don't want to be beholden to any one party. Once I start giving to a party, I will end up voting for that party, no matter what they do. I consider myself non-partisan, and want the freedom to vote any party I want.

2) I donate my money (and time) to charities instead - places that actually HELP people

3) My tax dollars support the political parties enough. They are used for the $1.95 per vote, the re-imbursement of their election expenses AND the to provide the tax refunds that people like Colpy give for donating.

I like to remind people the meaning of politics - poli - from the greek (or latin?) meaning "many" , and tics meaning "blood sucking parasites."

 

[Tyr]

Talk about arrogance! Involved in the political process doesn't mean shelling out cash. Have you ever stopped to think (hahaha as if) traditionally, Libs and NDP represent working people whose pockets aren't quite so deep? A thousand bucks is chump change to the wealthy. It's a month's rent to someone else....

...something that the Conservatives could care less about... people. It's all about the "cash" don't cha know...

 

[Tyr]

.....and the Liberal Party is claiming even more $$$ should be thrown towards an
even larger deficit in the economic concept of a stimulus package...weird times....
I wouldn't have imagined this situation six months ago.:lol:

Would it have been easier to imagine it three years ago when Harper was assigned the office of the PM? His accomplishments could be listed on the top half of a match (and that would be written in both official languages).

His detractments would fill volumes. Volume One being entitled "Lies and Flip-Flops". The other 26 would only read like something out of Dante's "Inferno" with possibly 4-5 volumes dedicated to the disemboweling of the economy and the propogation of Canadian poverty.

But hey, keep sending your cheques to the CPC... Stevie needs some new sweaters

Written from "Enbridge Parliment" in Ottawa.

 

[pegger]

But hey, keep sending your cheques to the CPC... Stevie needs some new sweaters

I think that is a taxpayer expense - along with the fashion consultant...seriously.

Donations are used wisely, like running "Dion's not a leader" commercials (during non-election years)

 

[Tyr]

I think that is a taxpayer expense - along with the fashion consultant...seriously.

Donations are used wisely, like running "Dion's not a leader" commercials (during non-election years)

I had thought Stevie had "borrowed" the duds from Mr. Rogers, but has since realized that the CPC had actually gone out and bought them to "soften" his image and try to make him look less Machavellian. Kinda like "pearls-on-a-pig"

 

[lone wolf]

Libs have always been affiliated with the Mafia. Just ask Gagliano and Zaccardelli.

Funny that ... considering petty bureaucrats often ACT like organized criminals....

 

[Ron in Regina]

Would it have been easier to imagine it three years ago when Harper was assigned the office of the PM? His accomplishments could be listed on the top half of a match (and that would be written in both official languages).

His detractments would fill volumes. Volume One being entitled "Lies and Flip-Flops". The other 26 would only read like something out of Dante's "Inferno" with possibly 4-5 volumes dedicated to the disemboweling of the economy and the propogation of Canadian poverty.

But hey, keep sending your cheques to the CPC... Stevie needs some new sweaters

Written from "Enbridge Parliment" in Ottawa.

How big is that Match head? Just curious...8O
These are listed alphabetically for easy reference:

A

(#1.) Accountability Act — passed April 11, 2006 (Link)

(#2.) Afghanistan mission extended to 2011 (Link)
(#3.) Age of consent from 14 to 16 effective May 1, 2008 (Link)
(#4.) Agent Orange compensation package of $96 million –$20,000 to all veterans and civilians who lived within 5 kilometers of CFB Gagetown in N.B. between 1966 and 1967 with illnesses associated with exposure (Link)
(#5.) Apology to Native people by Government of Canada on June 11, 2008 for residential school abuses (Link)
(#6.) Automative Innovation Fund of $250 million over five years (or $50 million a year) to developing greener, more fuel efficient vehicles (scroll part way down this page for source)​

B,C

(#7.) Border guards armed (Link)
(#8.) B’nai Brith International President’s Gold Medallion awarded to PM Stephen Harper (Link)
(#9.) Canada Employment Credit of $1000.00 (Link)
(#10.) Child Tax Credit ($2000 for every child under eighteen) (Link to all tax credits)
(#11.) Chinese Head Tax — government apology on June 22, 2006 (Link) (Link)
(#12.) Chinese immigrant provision of $20,000 to every individual and/or surviving spouses who paid the head tax plus a $24 million towards an”historical recognition program”(Link)
(#13.) Community Development Trust — $1 billion to help communities suffering from manufacturing and forestry industry slowdowns and unemployment (Link)​

D, E, F, G

(#14.) Debt reduction of $10.2 billion in 07/08 budget (Link) Has actually paid off $37 billion since the start of the first mandate (Link) Added November 30, 2008
(#15.) Disability Savings Plan, part of the 2007 budget is set to begin December, 2008. (See this link for further details and eligibility requirements.)
(#16.) Environmental plan “Turning the Corner” released on April 26, 2007 to regulate greenhouse gas emissions and air pollutants while balancing the needs of the environment and the economy, plus update on March 10, 2008 following public consultation (Link)
(#17.) Fixed Election Dates — An Act to Amend the Canada Elections Act (Bill C-16), passed May 3, 2007 (Link) is an Act primarily for majority governments since minority governments can fall at almost any time when the opposition express a lack of confidence in the government.
(#18.) Food Labelling Initiative — to clarify and modernize labelling on food products, including “Product of Canada” and “Made in Canada” claims — to be fully in effect following consultations by December 31, 2008 (Link) (Link)
(#19.) GIS — Guaranteed Income Supplement for seniors changed to allow for higher earned income (Link) (Plus this link indicates how many different ways the Harper gov’t is helping seniors.)
(#20.) GST — Goods & services tax cut from 7% to 6% and then to 5% (Link)​

H, I, J

(#21.) Health Canada Website launched for parents on food and children’s products that have been recalled (Link)
(#22.) Hep C compensation redressed (Link re latest court rulings that clear the way for national $1 billion package)
(#23.) Homelessness Partnering Strategy — $269.6 million over two years from April 1, 2007 to March 31, 2009 (Link)
(#24.) Homeless Research Demonstration Projects — In February 2008, Harper government allocated $110 million to the Mental Health Commission of Canada to find ways to help the growing number of homeless people who have a mental illness. (Link)
(#25.) Hydrogen Highway — Created a $1.5 billon trust as part of a network of partners for hydrogen fuelling stations for fuel celled buses and vehicles in British Columbia (Link)
(#26.) Immigration & Refugee Protection Act changes — to shorten time taken to immigrate to Canada — fully approved by parliament on June 18, 2008 (Link)
(#27.) Income splitting for Canadian seniors and pensioners (Link)
(#28.) Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement (Link)
(#29.) Indian Residential Schools Truth and Reconciliation Commission established (IRSTRC) with Justice Harry Laforme as Chair — with commission to begin on June 1st, 2008 (Link)​

K,L

(#30.) Kid’s sport tax credit (up to $500 per child) (Link)
(#31.) Land Claim Agreements — a total of 54 were settled up to and including 2008 (Link)
(#32.) Labour Mobility Agreement — as a result of concensus between the first ministers and Prime Minister Harper to amend the “Agreement on Internal Trade” (Link)
(#33.) Lobbying Act — passed July 2, 2008 (Link)​

M

(#34.) Manley Report approved (Report) (Link)
(#35.) Medical Alert Bracelets for Children — free of charge (Link)
(#36.) Mental Health Commission of Canada — established and incorporated as a non-profit corporation in March of 2007 (Link)
(#37.) Military spending increased to a post-war peak, including the delivery of four C-17 Globe Master strategic airlift aircraft (Link) (Link) (Link)
(#38.) Money laundering crack down on organized crime and terrorists (Link)​

N,O

(#39.) Nahanni National Park expanded by 5000 square kilometers (Link)
(#40.) National Museums — $98 million for capital infrastructure projects over five years, with some urgent repairs starting immediately (Link)
(#41.) National Vehicle Scrappage — an environmental program by “EcoAction” to get vehicles 1995 or older off the road — started immediately and to be fully in effect by January 1st, 2009 (Link)
(#42.) Nunavik Inuit Land Claims Agreement (Link)
(#43.) Ombudsman for Victims of Crime established (Link)
(#44.) Ontario-Canada Infrastructure Agreement for $6.2 billion starting immediately (click on Backgrounder here)​

P,Q

(#45.) Poland — Youth Mobility Agreement signed on July 14, 2008 that allows youth from either country to work and travel for up to one year (Link)
(#46.) Public transit tax credits (Link)
(#47.) Quebecois as a nation — a motion to confirm Quebec within a united Canada (Link)​

R,S

(#48.) Randle Reef Clean-up (Link)
(#49.) Restored citizenship for last Canadian involved in WWI (Link)
(#50.) Saskatchewan Carbon Capture Storage Project (Link)
(#51.) “Save a Million Lives” international program for people affected by poverty (Link)
(#52.) Savings Account that is tax free (Link)
(#53.) Softwood Lumber Agreement (Bill C-24) (Link)
(#54.) Street racing crack down (Link)
(#55.) Students exempted from taxation for scholarships, bursaries and fellowships (Link)
(#56.) Student improvements to financing programs with 2008 budget of $123 million with 2008, starting in 2009 following the expiration of the Canadian Millennium Scholarship Foundation (Link)​

T, U

(#57.) Tackling Violent Crime Act (Link) (Link)
(#58.) Tax Back Guarantee — a plan to use interest sayings from national debt repayments to reduce personal income taxes, each and every year (Link)
(#59.) Taxpayers Bill of Rights (Link)
(#60.) Taxpayers Ombudsman (Link)
(#61.) Ukranian & Eastern European immigants — $10 million to educate Canadians about the internment in Canadian work camps during WWI (Link)
(#62.) Universal Child Care Benefit — $1200.00 per year for every child under age six (Link)
(#63.) Universal Child Care Plan (Link)​

V-Z

(#64.) Visa requirements lifted for up to six month visits — to Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania and Hungary (Link)
____________________________​

 

[Tyr]

How big is that Match head? Just curious...8O
These are listed alphabetically for easy reference:

A

(#1.) Accountability Act — passed April 11, 2006 (Link)

(#2.) Afghanistan mission extended to 2011 (Link)
(#3.) Age of consent from 14 to 16 effective May 1, 2008 (Link)
(#4.) Agent Orange compensation package of $96 million –$20,000 to all veterans and civilians who lived within 5 kilometers of CFB Gagetown in N.B. between 1966 and 1967 with illnesses associated with exposure (Link)
(#5.) Apology to Native people by Government of Canada on June 11, 2008 for residential school abuses (Link)
(#6.) Automative Innovation Fund of $250 million over five years (or $50 million a year) to developing greener, more fuel efficient vehicles (scroll part way down this page for source)​

B,C

(#7.) Border guards armed (Link)
(#8.) B’nai Brith International President’s Gold Medallion awarded to PM Stephen Harper (Link)
(#9.) Canada Employment Credit of $1000.00 (Link)
(#10.) Child Tax Credit ($2000 for every child under eighteen) (Link to all tax credits)
(#11.) Chinese Head Tax — government apology on June 22, 2006 (Link) (Link)
(#12.) Chinese immigrant provision of $20,000 to every individual and/or surviving spouses who paid the head tax plus a $24 million towards an”historical recognition program”(Link)
(#13.) Community Development Trust — $1 billion to help communities suffering from manufacturing and forestry industry slowdowns and unemployment (Link)​

D, E, F, G

(#14.) Debt reduction of $10.2 billion in 07/08 budget (Link) Has actually paid off $37 billion since the start of the first mandate (Link) Added November 30, 2008
(#15.) Disability Savings Plan, part of the 2007 budget is set to begin December, 2008. (See this link for further details and eligibility requirements.)
(#16.) Environmental plan “Turning the Corner” released on April 26, 2007 to regulate greenhouse gas emissions and air pollutants while balancing the needs of the environment and the economy, plus update on March 10, 2008 following public consultation (Link)
(#17.) Fixed Election Dates — An Act to Amend the Canada Elections Act (Bill C-16), passed May 3, 2007 (Link) is an Act primarily for majority governments since minority governments can fall at almost any time when the opposition express a lack of confidence in the government.
(#18.) Food Labelling Initiative — to clarify and modernize labelling on food products, including “Product of Canada” and “Made in Canada” claims — to be fully in effect following consultations by December 31, 2008 (Link) (Link)
(#19.) GIS — Guaranteed Income Supplement for seniors changed to allow for higher earned income (Link) (Plus this link indicates how many different ways the Harper gov’t is helping seniors.)
(#20.) GST — Goods & services tax cut from 7% to 6% and then to 5% (Link)​

H, I, J

(#21.) Health Canada Website launched for parents on food and children’s products that have been recalled (Link)
(#22.) Hep C compensation redressed (Link re latest court rulings that clear the way for national $1 billion package)
(#23.) Homelessness Partnering Strategy — $269.6 million over two years from April 1, 2007 to March 31, 2009 (Link)
(#24.) Homeless Research Demonstration Projects — In February 2008, Harper government allocated $110 million to the Mental Health Commission of Canada to find ways to help the growing number of homeless people who have a mental illness. (Link)
(#25.) Hydrogen Highway — Created a $1.5 billon trust as part of a network of partners for hydrogen fuelling stations for fuel celled buses and vehicles in British Columbia (Link)
(#26.) Immigration & Refugee Protection Act changes — to shorten time taken to immigrate to Canada — fully approved by parliament on June 18, 2008 (Link)
(#27.) Income splitting for Canadian seniors and pensioners (Link)
(#28.) Indian Residential School Settlement Agreement (Link)
(#29.) Indian Residential Schools Truth and Reconciliation Commission established (IRSTRC) with Justice Harry Laforme as Chair — with commission to begin on June 1st, 2008 (Link)​

K,L

(#30.) Kid’s sport tax credit (up to $500 per child) (Link)
(#31.) Land Claim Agreements — a total of 54 were settled up to and including 2008 (Link)
(#32.) Labour Mobility Agreement — as a result of concensus between the first ministers and Prime Minister Harper to amend the “Agreement on Internal Trade” (Link)
(#33.) Lobbying Act — passed July 2, 2008 (Link)​

M

(#34.) Manley Report approved (Report) (Link)
(#35.) Medical Alert Bracelets for Children — free of charge (Link)
(#36.) Mental Health Commission of Canada — established and incorporated as a non-profit corporation in March of 2007 (Link)
(#37.) Military spending increased to a post-war peak, including the delivery of four C-17 Globe Master strategic airlift aircraft (Link) (Link) (Link)
(#38.) Money laundering crack down on organized crime and terrorists (Link)​

N,O

(#39.) Nahanni National Park expanded by 5000 square kilometers (Link)
(#40.) National Museums — $98 million for capital infrastructure projects over five years, with some urgent repairs starting immediately (Link)
(#41.) National Vehicle Scrappage — an environmental program by “EcoAction” to get vehicles 1995 or older off the road — started immediately and to be fully in effect by January 1st, 2009 (Link)
(#42.) Nunavik Inuit Land Claims Agreement (Link)
(#43.) Ombudsman for Victims of Crime established (Link)
(#44.) Ontario-Canada Infrastructure Agreement for $6.2 billion starting immediately (click on Backgrounder here)​

P,Q

(#45.) Poland — Youth Mobility Agreement signed on July 14, 2008 that allows youth from either country to work and travel for up to one year (Link)
(#46.) Public transit tax credits (Link)
(#47.) Quebecois as a nation — a motion to confirm Quebec within a united Canada (Link)​

R,S

(#48.) Randle Reef Clean-up (Link)
(#49.) Restored citizenship for last Canadian involved in WWI (Link)
(#50.) Saskatchewan Carbon Capture Storage Project (Link)
(#51.) “Save a Million Lives” international program for people affected by poverty (Link)
(#52.) Savings Account that is tax free (Link)
(#53.) Softwood Lumber Agreement (Bill C-24) (Link)
(#54.) Street racing crack down (Link)
(#55.) Students exempted from taxation for scholarships, bursaries and fellowships (Link)
(#56.) Student improvements to financing programs with 2008 budget of $123 million with 2008, starting in 2009 following the expiration of the Canadian Millennium Scholarship Foundation (Link)​

T, U

(#57.) Tackling Violent Crime Act (Link) (Link)
(#58.) Tax Back Guarantee — a plan to use interest sayings from national debt repayments to reduce personal income taxes, each and every year (Link)
(#59.) Taxpayers Bill of Rights (Link)
(#60.) Taxpayers Ombudsman (Link)
(#61.) Ukranian & Eastern European immigants — $10 million to educate Canadians about the internment in Canadian work camps during WWI (Link)
(#62.) Universal Child Care Benefit — $1200.00 per year for every child under age six (Link)
(#63.) Universal Child Care Plan (Link)​

V-Z

(#64.) Visa requirements lifted for up to six month visits — to Poland, Slovakia, Lithuania and Hungary (Link)

____________________________​

My mistake. I should have said progressive accomplishments

 

[pegger]

Just off the op of my head - you forgot - Fire the safety regulator of Chalk river for doing her job.

Nuclear "accident" at Chalk river one year later...

I would also now stroke item #14 off your list - as the $37 Billion he "paid off" will be offset by the deficit in 2009. (which pretty much mutes point # 58.

Points #62 AND 63 are the same thing.

Point #1 - is a joke piece of legislation, as is point #17 and 33.

More later...