What is faith?

copper25

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Hebrews 12:13) These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

Now aren’t we called to be a peculiar people that God has reserved for himself? Exodus 19:5-6) “Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine; And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.” Aren’t we as a people, as God’s people driven by faith and are persuaded by the promise of eternal life, by the hope of the world to come, by our desire to please God to live by our faith? Someone can talk faith saying I have it, but (James 2:20) “faith without works is dead” and talk is cheap, but when we let our actions and our life, the way we carry ourselves, act, speak, and think to pleasing God, then we are headed toward the right direction. When Israel decided not to stand against the Amorites, when they did not put there trust in God, what type of faith was being shown? When Caleb took courage and boldness willing to stand against odds and adversity saying, Numbers 14:9) “Only do not rebel against the LORD; and do not fear the people of the land, for they will be our prey. Their protection has been removed from them, and the LORD is with us; do not fear them.”, what faith was being shown? One, the children of Israel fainted in the time of adversity and at the same time disobeyed God. Caleb on the other hand, trusted in the Lord and obeyed willing to fight though others were not. Hebrews 11:7) “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.” He obeyed God and built the ark, he did not just sit while the flood was about to come, he took action and hearkened unto the voice of the Lord.

Hebrews 11:7) “By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.” He was uncertain of the destination, yet when God said to him (Genesis12:1-3) “Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.” Abraham obeyed and left in hope of the promise. Part of faith, what develops from faith, are works, fruitfulness, after time develop, leaning to God results in works. 1 Corinthians 3:6) “I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.” John 15:5) “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.” By the Lord’s working upon us only can we bring forth spiritual fruit and it all starts with, but not only having faith. But one’s faith must be active and put into motion in order to achieve success. Can we only have faith and hear THE END, I think not. But when we push to seek our Maker, our Father, our Lord, each and every day with diligence striding for (but not justified by) obedience (for by works no man is justified, Revelation 3:2) “I have not found thy works perfect before God.”), then can we thrive producing spiritual fruitfulness (Matthew 13:8 )“some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
 

Cliffy

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What is Faith?

Faith is a trust that the basis of the universe is benevolent. Hope is wishful thinking and belief is a crutch, an anchor that attempts to hold oneself in one spot, to try the impossible task of standing steady in a flowing stream. Faith is letting go of rocks and anchors (beliefs) and learning how to flow with the stream of life.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Faith is superstition. Faith is believing something without any evidence for it. Many people believe nonsense, based solely upon faith (like they will be rewarded with 72 virgins in the Heaven, if they commit acts of terrorism in this world, or that bombing abortion clinics is the way to salvation).

Which is fine, so long as they don’t try to impose their faith upon me (by passing some laws) or don’t start killing in the name of their faith (as they sometimes do).
 

L Gilbert

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"True Faith" is a tune by New Order. 1987
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a Newcastle United fanzine. :D

IOW, judging by the lack of definitions, no-one has informed Google the difference between "faith" and "true faith". And what would be "untrue faith"? Non-existent faith? False faith?
 

Cliffy

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Faith is just knowing what you believe is right ... no matter how wrong it may be to anyone else.

Which gets back to "the truth is only relevant to the beholder". Or as some would prefer me to say, our perspective on the truth is unique to us only.
 

china

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To me ,faith just like a believe has no value what so ever;Faith? .....it is an abdication of personal responsibility.
 

Cliffy

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To me ,faith just like a believe has no value what so ever;Faith? .....it is an abdication of personal responsibility.

That is a belief in an external authority. We, each individual, is the only authority - that is if you accept that. It is the only true freedom. To me faith is trusting in your own truth and authority.
 

eanassir

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Faith is to believe in God alone without associate or equal.

Atheism is not a belief or faith; it is a negative state like the drunken that staggers awkwardly without aim, and like the stuporous following a hard blow on the head so that he moves uncertainly.

However, such English words like "faith" and "belief" are not the original words in the original languages of these heavenly books.
 

In Between Man

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"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"(Heb.11:1).

The term translated "faith" in Hebrews 11:1 is variously defined as "trust," "firm persuasion," "belief," "confidence," or "conviction." But the writer of Hebrews informs us it is "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

The word "substance" is rendered "assurance" by the American Standard Version. The word literally means "a standing under, support" (W.E. Vine, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, vol. 1, p. 85).

"Faith," in relation to hope, is assurance. It stands under and supports our hope. Thus, one's hope is only as secure as his faith is strong.

The term "evidence" is rendered "conviction" by the American Standard Version. It is defined as a "proof, proving" (W.F. Arndt & F.W. Gingrich, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, p. 24.

Saving faith is not a blind acceptance of unprovable opinions. It is not based on feeling, emotion, or a "blind leap." ****It is conviction supported by evidence.****

 
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Cliffy

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"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen"(Heb.11:1).

The term translated "faith" in Hebrews 11:1 is variously defined as "trust," "firm persuasion," "belief," "confidence," or "conviction." But the writer of Hebrews informs us it is "the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

The word "substance" is rendered "assurance" by the American Standard Version. The word literally means "a standing under, support" (W.E. Vine, An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, vol. 1, p. 85).

"Faith," in relation to hope, is assurance. It stands under and supports our hope. Thus, one's hope is only as secure as his faith is strong.

The term "evidence" is rendered "conviction" by the American Standard Version. It is defined as a "proof, proving" (W.F. Arndt & F.W. Gingrich, A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, p. 24.

Saving faith is not a blind acceptance of unprovable opinions. It is not based on feeling, emotion, or a "blind leap." ****It is conviction supported by evidence.****

With no evidence that god or Jesus existed, there is no evidence that the bible is the word of (a non existent) god, so how can a christian have faith without evidence. How can there be conviction without faith or evidence.

There is plenty of evidence that the bible is a work of fiction, there is no evidence that it is what you claim it is. So in fact, by your logic, faith is an unreasonable acceptance that fairy tales are true.