Israel urges Russia not to sell missiles to Iran

[MHz]

The US vetoed all attempts at a cease fire until all the cluster bombs Israel wanted to drop were dropped.
If Israel can stockpile huge amounts of munitions, why should their neighbours should have none? Maybe if Israel would stop saying somebody should invade Iran the newer weapons might not be such a priority.
And if these newer weapons can be effective against air attacks from a foreign power the maybe it is too bad. Then Russia gets to sell more to other Nations.

 

[darkbeaver]

You know we could make some money arming Israels neighbours I mean we Canadians have to help our arms industry. That would be both sides wouldn't it?

 

[Zzarchov]

The US vetoed all attempts at a cease fire until all the cluster bombs Israel wanted to drop were dropped.
If Israel can stockpile huge amounts of munitions, why should their neighbours should have none? Maybe if Israel would stop saying somebody should invade Iran the newer weapons might not be such a priority.
And if these newer weapons can be effective against air attacks from a foreign power the maybe it is too bad. Then Russia gets to sell more to other Nations.

You can't force a ceasefire on people, you know the UN doesn't have that right eh?

Russia can sell whatever it wants to Iran, and when Pakistan nukes the **** out of Iran, or vice versa, and brings india into the mix, who brings China into the mix, who brings Russia into the mix in a nice chain of enemies that ends up bringing eastern europe, which brings france and england which brings america

We can all have a merry atomic christmas.

Oddly Israel would be the only nuclear power to stay out of it.

 

[gopher]

Russia can do damn well what it pleases.

 

[darkbeaver]

You can't force a ceasefire on people, you know the UN doesn't have that right eh?

Russia can sell whatever it wants to Iran, and when Pakistan nukes the **** out of Iran, or vice versa, and brings india into the mix, who brings China into the mix, who brings Russia into the mix in a nice chain of enemies that ends up bringing eastern europe, which brings france and england which brings america

We can all have a merry atomic christmas.

Oddly Israel would be the only nuclear power to stay out of it.

Some people believe that to prevent that senario of yours one would take out Israel first.

 

[MHz]

You can't force a ceasefire on people, you know the UN doesn't have that right eh?

It only takes 1 vote (from 1 0f 5 members)to make it non-binding.

Russia can sell whatever it wants to Iran, and when Pakistan nukes the **** out of Iran, or vice versa, and brings india into the mix, who brings China into the mix, who brings Russia into the mix in a nice chain of enemies that ends up bringing eastern europe, which brings france and england which brings america

Russia has pledged military support against anybody who attacks Iran, you know that right? That includes nuclear. Your 'vice-verse' is a lie because Iran has no bombs. BTW you can flatten your next door neighbour with conventional weapons and then claim the still useful land. Atomic anything ruins that possibility and it could contaminate you eventually.

 

[MHz]

Some people believe that to prevent that senario of yours one would take out Israel first.

That is not preventing nuclear war that is the pre-emptive strike that is the war. The host country should threaten to bomb themselves thereby making the land useless for 100,000 years. Who would dare attack you then I ask?

 

[Just the Facts]

BTW you can flatten your next door neighbour with conventional weapons and then claim the still useful land. Atomic anything ruins that possibility and it could contaminate you eventually.

Very sensible. Tell that to this guy:

RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL

 

[Risus]

Very sensible. Tell that to this guy:

RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL

He's just another muslim loonie....

 

[darkbeaver]

That is not preventing nuclear war that is the pre-emptive strike that is the war. The host country should threaten to bomb themselves thereby making the land useless for 100,000 years. Who would dare attack you then I ask?

Sure it is but the western players in this tragedy are not rational beings,they are capitalist devil worshipers, remember they purport to be gods chosen and the chosen have chosen the American rabble, being terminally stunned, as surrogate defenders of the faith. I don't believe nuclear war can be avoided at this late date. Certain elements believe it's a winable event. The prize is the entire planet, if pieces of it are uninhabitable, so be it, the wealthy have their deluxe bunkers.
I wonder what the real purpose for the jockying for position is? What the real threat is? Is it external, cyclical and on a long eliptic orbit I wonder, or a global shower of hot metal balls? If that were the case I wonder if the grave results of nuclear war are not of a secondary nature. Certainly no effort or assets will be wasted on the so called useless eaters during the next decade as the collapseing global economic disaster deepens and the consolodation of assets accellarates that is being made perfectly clear. The elite will save themselves as usual, this time they seem to have made preparations for a long subteranian vacation.

 

[Zzarchov]

It only takes 1 vote (from 1 0f 5 members)to make it non-binding.


Russia has pledged military support against anybody who attacks Iran, you know that right? That includes nuclear. Your 'vice-verse' is a lie because Iran has no bombs. BTW you can flatten your next door neighbour with conventional weapons and then claim the still useful land. Atomic anything ruins that possibility and it could contaminate you eventually.

Thats actually a giant myth.

Conventional weapons cause serious damage to the use for the land in the form of heavy metals and poisonous chemicals (which also never break down)

Atomic weapons do not "utterly destroy" the land. One can still live quite nicely in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

All atomic weapons do is spread radioactive particles around, they quickly get washed away by rain, and with a descent clean up operation (clearing the top layers of soil etc) the land is fit for use again.

 

[Tyr]

Thats actually a giant myth.

Conventional weapons cause serious damage to the use for the land in the form of heavy metals and poisonous chemicals (which also never break down)

Atomic weapons do not "utterly destroy" the land. One can still live quite nicely in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

All atomic weapons do is spread radioactive particles around, they quickly get washed away by rain, and with a descent clean up operation (clearing the top layers of soil etc) the land is fit for use again.

All atomic weapons do is spread radioactive particles around, they quickly get washed away by rain, and with a descent clean up operation (clearing the top layers of soil etc) the land is fit for use again

That a huge leap in faith. Radioactivity "hangs around" for a little longer than a few days and a rainfall.

Try years

 

[Zzarchov]

All atomic weapons do is spread radioactive particles around, they quickly get washed away by rain, and with a descent clean up operation (clearing the top layers of soil etc) the land is fit for use again

That a huge leap in faith. Radioactivity "hangs around" for a little longer than a few days and a rainfall.

Try years

Only if you don't clean up the particles.

Keep in mind how little material is really in an atomic warhead. You can't "make" something radioactive. A bomb doesn't turn anything radioactive, it just spreads 10 to 20 kilograms of radioactive particles over the blast radius. If you clean up those 10-20 kilograms of particles (usually with a few hundred thousand or million kilograms of material they are embedded in) its as if the blast never happened.

Now reactors on the other hands can have alot more material.

 

[Said1]

Nuclear weapons produce nuclear reactions of certain materials -energy release. Radiological weapons release material that is already radioactive - no or less energy release from nuclear reaction. I don't know which is easier to clean up, only that one produces devastation at farther distances (nuclear) and the other doesn't. In fact, the above is the extent of my knowledge on the topic, so if someone wants to jump in with a link......

 

[MHz]

Here's a vid on ho easy it is to clean-up DU.
Blinkx Video: HOW THE US MILITARY IRRADIATES ITS OWN TROOPS (and everybody else) with Depeted Uranium Munitions

 

[gopher]

''RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAL ''


That source is the Iran-Press-Service which is based in France, not Iran.

 

[Zzarchov]

Here's a vid on ho easy it is to clean-up DU.
Blinkx Video: HOW THE US MILITARY IRRADIATES ITS OWN TROOPS (and everybody else) with Depeted Uranium Munitions

Would you mind telling me how exactly depleted uranium irradiates anyone?

You know that depleted Uranium is not radioactive and is actually less dangerous than standard munitions which rely on heavy metals and toxic chemicals.


I know the word "Uranium" is scary if you don't know the science behind it, but its less radioactive than desert sand.

Its used as a radiation shield for crying out loud (in the same manner as lead used to be)

 

[MHz]

Would you mind telling me how exactly depleted uranium irradiates anyone?

You know that depleted Uranium is not radioactive and is actually less dangerous than standard munitions which rely on heavy metals and toxic chemicals.


I know the word "Uranium" is scary if you don't know the science behind it, but its less radioactive than desert sand.

Its used as a radiation shield for crying out loud (in the same manner as lead used to be)

I'll let you get educated the same way I did. Did you even watch the vid? So what is causing all the illnesses and birth defects? The numbers were over 220,000 vets with radiation caused illnesses. No telling how many birth defects.
You would send your family over to do the clean-up then?
This vid is shorter but it should answer your questions.
Blinkx Video: HOW THE US MILITARY IRRADIATES ITS OWN TROOPS (and everybody else) with Depeted Uranium Munitions

 

[Tyr]

Would you mind telling me how exactly depleted uranium irradiates anyone?

You know that depleted Uranium is not radioactive and is actually less dangerous than standard munitions which rely on heavy metals and toxic chemicals.


I know the word "Uranium" is scary if you don't know the science behind it, but its less radioactive than desert sand.

Its used as a radiation shield for crying out loud (in the same manner as lead used to be)

Would you mind telling me how exactly depleted uranium irradiates anyone?

Are you serious? The irradation is not immediately lethal, but over time, it's not a good idea to be exposed to it.

a radiation dose from it would be about 60 percent of that from purified natural uranium with the same mass. Approximately 90 micrograms of natural uranium, on average, exist in the human body as a result of normal intake of water, food and air. The majority of this is found in the skeleton, with the rest in various organs and tissues.
However, in a matter of a month or so, depleted uranium generates amounts of thorium-234 and protactinium-234 which radiate beta rays at almost the same rate as that of the alpha rays from the uranium-238. Two beta rays are emitted for each alpha ray.

The radiological dangers of pure depleted uranium are lower (60 percent) than those of naturally-occurring uranium due to the removal of the more radioactive isotopes, as well as due to its long half-life (4.46 billion years). Depleted uranium differs from natural uranium in its isotopic composition but its biochemistry is for the most part the same.

 

[einmensch]

Israel is the puppy on the doggie beach that is misbehaving. This puppy bites others when they no one is witnessing and then yelps as if attacked by a trained pitbull. If caught in the act this puppy barks that all are out to get it. Nice puppy but extremely arrogant and deceptive. I-I-I-I
I'm and anti-Semite, Jew Hater, Nazi, Holocaust denier,- ? .
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