This was Abraham Lincoln???

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"Largest mass hanging in United States history"
38 Santee "Sioux" Indian men
Mankato, Minnesota, Dec. 16, 1862
303 Indian males were set to be hanged​
What brought about the hanging of 38 Sioux Indians in Minnesota December 26, 1862 was the failure "again" of the U.S. Government to honor it's treaties with Indian Nations. Indians were not given the money or food set forth to them for signing a treaty to turn over more than a million acres of their land and be forced to live on a reservation.

Indian agents keep the treaty money and food that was to go to the Indians, the food was sold to White settlers, food that was given to the Indians was spoiled and not fit for a dog to eat. Indian hunting parties went off the reservation land looking for food to feed their families, one hunting group took eggs from a White settlers land and the rest is history.​
Information below tells how President Lincoln and Minnesota Governor Alexander Ramsey set out to exterminate Indians from their home land.​
Authorities in Minnesota asked President Lincoln to order the immediate execution of all 303 Indian males found guilty. Lincoln was concerned with how this would play with the Europeans, whom he was afraid were about to enter the war on the side of the South. He offered the following compromise to the politicians of Minnesota: They would pare the list of those to be hung down to 39. In return, Lincoln promised to kill or remove every Indian from the state and provide Minnesota with 2 million dollars in federal funds. Remember, he only owed the Sioux 1.4 million for the land.

So, on December 26, 1862, the Great Emancipator ordered the largest mass execution in American History, where the guilt of those to be executed was entirely in doubt. Regardless of how Lincoln defenders seek to play this, it was nothing more than murder to obtain the land of the Santee Sioux and to appease his political cronies in Minnesota.​
 

Colpy

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Lincoln had a very nasty war to fight, and slavery was certainly not the only reason it was fought. He set aside all other concerns to prosecute that war.....he was a pragmatist.......

He was also a man of his time......he wanted to send freed slaves back to Africa, not integrate them into American society........some were returned, and founded the African nation of Liberia.

Did you know the Emancipation Declaration of 1863 that freed the slaves applied ONLY to those states that supported the Confederacy.........not exactly the most idealistic of documents.

But, Lincoln was a great man.....just not perfect........or even close. Seriously flawed, as all human beings are......especially when judged in the light of a time and culture not their own......
 

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Hanging is a form of execution used against criminals. Mankato's men were warriors. As such, the proper form of execution was by firing squad. Not only were they victims of injustice, they were treated like thieves rather than like warriors.
 

talloola

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I am sad for the arrogance of the past in regard to the 'indians', both south and
here in canada, 'there was a better way', and it's too bad that the greed of the
white 'guy' played such a heavy role, they obviously saw themselves as the more
educated and intelligent, and took advantage of that position, but it is now coming
back to show us all, how they lacked compassion and fairness.
 

normbc9

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This is but but one of many examples of the atrocities commited against native Americans all over the areas controlled by the US. After the Civil War many US military Cavalry contingents were ordered to the areas west of the Mississippi to engage in "dealing with the Indian problems." Several decorated Civil War flag officers went west too and commited crimes against humanity. Among those were Sherman, Custer and others. The history of the US government dealing with the native American tribes is not one for anyone to be proud of. What is more disturbing is that the writings of some who chronicled these events were edited heavily by government agents and some others were banned from the press. I guess the First Amendment rights weren't even considered then.
 

EagleSmack

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The Native Americans were not without their own atrocities such as the massacre at Ft. William Henry where between 70-180 surrendering British troops, women and children were slaughtered at the hands of Indians allied to the French.
 

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The Native Americans were not without their own atrocities such as the massacre at Ft. William Henry where between 70-180 surrendering British troops, women and children were slaughtered at the hands of Indians allied to the French.

Oh well then! The genocide was a good thing then :roll:

This seems like the same logic the USA is using today to justify its genocide in Iraq.

This twisted f**ked up logic is getting old.
 

Walter

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Oh well then! The genocide was a good thing then :roll:

This seems like the same logic the USA is using today to justify its genocide in Iraq.

This twisted f**ked up logic is getting old.
Since Saddam was overthrown I haven't heard of a genocide in Iraq. Do you have a link?
 

Scott Free

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Since Saddam was overthrown I haven't heard of a genocide in Iraq. Do you have a link?

Oh right... we don't call it that... it's just the worst humanitarian disaster of the 21st century that makes Darfur (what we do call a genocide) look like a hiccup.

[SIZE=-1]"One can only marvel at the insouciance of the US Congress to the current Iraqi Genocide while condemning Turkey for one that happened 90 years ago.[/SIZE]" - Paul Craig

Yeah Walter... it's a genocide except to the most addle minded.

WTF do you think the "surge" is? Do you really think the US just stepped up its presence?

The Americans are going in and bombing the living sh*t out of everything that moves with the least provocation.

They have murdered millions of people, displaced millions more and are still there killing people. That is a genocide.

If you need a specific stated intent from the US government then your going to be waiting a long time. Your nievity is their bread and butter.

The surge is just Bush's "final solution," that is, his last kick at asserting his will over people who obviously don't want him.
 

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```Since Saddam was overthrown I haven't heard of a genocide in Iraq.```


Links pertaining to attacks on Iraqi Chaldean Christians, Jews, and other minorities have been posted on this forum previously. There are over 3 million Iraqi exiles and none are in any hurry to return to the repression and hate caused by Bush.
 

EagleSmack

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Who's turf was being invaded?

Who said it was their turf? Native Americans had been fighting wars amongst each other, taking each other's lands, and slaughtering each other LONG before the white man threw in his hat.

The Iroquis Nation is responsible for the destruction and dissolution of more Indian tribes than the white man ever will be.