Israel...

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Sad reasoning on the part of the Israelis but they, in the last eighteen months have become more hardened than ever. Perhaps (IMO) so many different governments and policies.
It does not matter, Israel has become a rogue nation and plays only by its own rules.

 

[Zzarchov]

Sad reasoning on the part of the Israelis but they, in the last eighteen months have become more hardened than ever. Perhaps (IMO) so many different governments and policies.
It does not matter, Israel has become a rogue nation and plays only by its own rules.

To be fair, why shouldn't it?

It tried to play by other peoples rules, but they were told that the normal rules didn't apply to them. Many many times

I think the last straw was when they wanted to add the addendum to a bill critisizing the deaths of Palestinian children in to the conflict to critisize the deaths of all children in the conflict, it was rejected.

Why on earth would any nation agree to rules that say "Your children deserve to die". No matter how great a crime you think the adults may be committing, children aren't old enough to understand and shouldn't be ok to kill.

Even still, they agree to 99% of the worlds rules. If they didn't, they wouldn't have problems. Hell, the obey the rules more than the rulemakers on the security council.

 

[einmensch]

[SIZE=+1]"190 Palestinian children arrested in 2008
[/SIZE]Palestine-Israel, Politics, 5/13/2008
Media Office of the Nafha Society for Defending Detainees Rights and Human Rights said that the Israeli occupation forces arrested 190 children since the beginning of 2008.

In a report, the society said that 20 children from the West Bank were arrested during the last ten days, adding that 6200 children were arrested during al-Aqsa intifada, of whom 530 children are still in Israeli jails.

Nafha Society appealed to the Human Rights Organizations to focus on children prisoners and provide them legal assistance."

Israel is going to release 250 prisoners to make room for the 500 they plan to arrest without chargerges next week.

 

[Zzarchov]

Now whats a child? 18? 19? 21? 16?

And are they children under Palestinian law as well? What are they accused of in the same manner? I know we have well more than 190 children arrested in Canada.

 

[einmensch]

Yes Zzarchov--YOUR HEROESthe Israelis
The Israeli authorities have arrested over 5,000 Palestinian minors since the beginning of the Al Aqsa Intifada in September 2000. Still in Israeli prisons are 350 Palestinians aged 11 through 17 years.

Khalaila sat with Al Aisha as he reported what has happened to him. Israeli soldiers and interrogators have repeatedly punched the 13 year old in the face and kicked him in the legs and backside. The boy said that he was not throwing stones, denying the charge against him. He was forced under threat to sign a statement of unknown content.

The lawyer reported that Israeli soldiers arrested the 11 year old from the streets of his village on 25 August under the pretext that he had thrown stones at Israeli forces.
The boy was taken to a mountain high above the town and held there for seven to eight hours. He was handcuffed and blindfolded the entire time. One of the Israeli soldiers put his cigarette out in the boy’s hand. Othman was then taken to a military installation for investigation in the Israeli settlement of Givat Ze’ev west of Ramallah in the West Bank. He was interrogated into the morning hours of the second day.
Zzarchov, we are talking about Israel. Canadian police don't butt out on childrens hands, or beat them, keep them blinfolded but you loyalty to crimminals is pathetic.

For Israel a Palestinian under 16 is a child. Does that help you Zzarchov. I thought that you would know that or are you just playing stupid?

 

[Zzarchov]

Excuse me?

ok 1, thats some nice unsubstantiated claims.

2.) Yes, Canadian police do beat the **** out of kids. Police in the western world do frequently get caught dishing out abuse , sometimes when its morally wrong (like when they tasered a child with a broken back 16 times after police were called to help him)

sometimes police wail on a kid whos done something such as firing live rounds at other kids.

Its nice to know your incredibely gullible though, you'll believe anything you read as long as it villifies jews.

I don't doubt there is alot of violent abuse against young offenders. I also don't think Im going to cry about somethign going on in a War Zone that we have going on in Canada. Are you implying Canadian children are more deserving of mace in the eyes and a nightstick to the throat?

 

[einmensch]

I see that you have provided no proof for your ramblings. But in your eyes Jews can do no wrong.

Zzarchov, we are talking about Israel. Canadian police don't butt out on childrens hands, or beat them, keep them blinfolded. Your fanatic loyalty to crimminals is pathetic. I guess you identify with them.

 

[Colpy]

I see that you have provided no proof for your ramblings. But in your eyes Jews can do no wrong.

Zzarchov, we are talking about Israel. Canadian police don't butt out on childrens hands, or beat them, keep them blinfolded. Your fanatic loyalty to crimminals is pathetic. I guess you identify with them.

I am speechless, almost.

This from a holocaust denier.8O8O8O:roll:

Unbelieveable.

 

[einmensch]

On Tuesday, the U.N.'s top human rights official, Navi Pillay, called for an immediate end to the blockade, saying Gazans "have been forcibly deprived of their most basic human rights for months." 1.4 being deprived in the Gaza Ghetto by Israel-Don't wonder why they want to do the same to Israelis. If you treat others as animals don't expect them to treat you as humans. Are you able to comprehend that or are you too obsessed?

 

[einmensch]

You managed to get the Holocaust denier in--Accusations for lack of brain
Expected

 

[Zzarchov]

On Tuesday, the U.N.'s top human rights official, Navi Pillay, called for an immediate end to the blockade, saying Gazans "have been forcibly deprived of their most basic human rights for months." 1.4 being deprived in the Gaza Ghetto by Israel-Don't wonder why they want to do the same to Israelis. If you treat others as animals don't expect them to treat you as humans. Are you able to comprehend that or are you too obsessed?

Good for him, thats outside his authority.

The UN encourages blockads and sanctions as an alternative to artillery fire and bombardment. Israel has every right to level the entire gaza strip and everything in it as a response to being fired upon.

Despite all the cries about "disproportianate response", international law is very clear there is 1.) nothing wrong with it, its practically encouraged so as to end conflicts sooner and 2.) civilians caught in a warzone are the responsibility of the defender for placing military installations in civilian areas.

The same rules the whole world lived under (when facing atomic apocalypse) still apply.

 

[einmensch]

Israel-- The war monger is at it again-threatening to attack Iran even if the USA doesn't say go do it.These threats have been published for the last 4 years. Sounds like first degree aggression! Iran has a right to defend itself.
600 Jewish settlers in Hebron riot in a city of 170,000Palestinians and the Palestinians hide in their homes. Who are the animals Zz&Co.? Where is the IDF? ----watching with smiles ?

 

[Colpy]

Israel-- The war monger is at it again-threatening to attack Iran even if the USA doesn't say go do it.These threats have been published for the last 4 years. Sounds like first degree aggression! Iran has a right to defend itself.
600 Jewish settlers in Hebron riot in a city of 170,000Palestinians and the Palestinians hide in their homes. Who are the animals Zz&Co.? Where is the IDF? ----watching with smiles ?

Israel attacks Iran?

It is called pre-emptive self defense.

I hope to God they smash the Iranian nuclear program ASAP.

 

[einmensch]

So if I smash you in the head it is pre-emptive because Sam said you were a danger to me. Like the USA attacking Iraq on false information provided by Israel.
Which God Colpy your Baptist God or ? I hope Iran retaliates to the fullest. Israel wants the US goyem to do it--I don't see Iran threatening anyone!

 

[darkbeaver]

Israel is a rogue nuclear power, an outlaw nation, it should be nuked preemptivly.

 

[Zzarchov]

So if I smash you in the head it is pre-emptive because Sam said you were a danger to me. Like the USA attacking Iraq on false information provided by Israel.
Which God Colpy your Baptist God or ? I hope Iran retaliates to the fullest. Israel wants the US goyem to do it--I don't see Iran threatening anyone!

Uh huh, Actually the WMD in Iraq info came from the Clinton era in the late 90's.

But im sure all evil in the world is still, somehow, against all logic , the fault of scheming Jews.

But Iran and Israel are free to bomb each other to hearts content. According to Iran there is no such thing as Israel the state, just a terrorist group.

Fine, in that case much like how Israel can't dump mustard gas on Gaza because Hamas launched rockets at Israel, I guess Iran won't strike at civilians in "Jewish Palestine"

Unlikely.

But Iran is basically at war with Israel anyways, let them shoot each other all they want. I just would like Iran to last 20-40 more years so its demographic shift can merge it into the Liberty loving democracy it was becoming after the overthrow of the shah, before the Islamists (who played both sides) stabbed the Democrats in the spine "(which is fair, they stabbed the Shah in the spine before that)

 

[einmensch]

Indeed, it didn’t take long for hard-line religious nationalist Jews to seek payback — and they went on a rampage that the Israeli army did little to control. With new twin rallying cries of “not turning the other cheek” and extracting a “price,” the settlers, part of an increasingly radical and violent new anti-state element within the community, angrily entered nearby Palestinian neighborhoods. Dozens of settlers set ablaze Palestinian houses, fields, olive trees, and cars. In at least one case, an armed settler was filmed as he shot an unarmed Palestinian at point-blank range.
The Israelis have earned the right to do it even if they are complaining about not being allowed to steal. The Police and army argree. Let the Palestinians burn Jewish homes and see what happens! A fine people and a fine democratic government.

 

[Just the Facts]

Where exactly was someone shot?

 

[einmensch]

Yes the puppet Shaw, the puppet Karzai, the puppet Talabani---
Here I quote you to show how insane you are>>"But im sure all evil in the world is still, somehow, against all logic , the fault of scheming Jews." Cut the delusional whining with -everybody is out to get the Jews, --I know it keeps the flock together ---
Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION were provided to Saddam by Rumsfeld and Company to ensure that Iraq was not defeated by Iran after the Shaw, a wonderful man, one you must surely admire, was dethroned.

 

[Colpy]

Yes the puppet Shaw, the puppet Karzai, the puppet Talabani---
Here I quote you to show how insane you are>>"But im sure all evil in the world is still, somehow, against all logic , the fault of scheming Jews." Cut the delusional whining with -everybody is out to get the Jews, --I know it keeps the flock together ---
Weapons of MASS DESTRUCTION were provided to Saddam by Rumsfeld and Company to ensure that Iraq was not defeated by Iran after the Shaw, a wonderful man, one you must surely admire, was dethroned.

Unfortunately, you are incorrect. In fact, the United states stopped shipments of agricultural chemical to Iraq because they might have been used to make chemical weapons. The USA supplied Iraq with trucks, spare parts, etc........and only to the tune of a few millions.

France and Germany supplied Iraq withchemicals and nuclear expertise, the USSR and China supplied weapons to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars.

And it is spelled "shah"