Your View: What do you think of the Governor General's decision?

shadowshiv

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The decision the G.G. made, was the kindest thing she could have done for Harper. It was also the best thing for Canada. Everybody gets a couple months to think about it and cool down. If, at the end of that time, the coalition are still not happy, they can give the government a vote of non confidence and the G.G. will ask them to form a government. I think Harper is toast anyway and he should be able to see that.

Of course, who knows if this coalition will even be around in a couple of months. Political partys have a habit of not lasting as "strange bedfellows" for long periods of time. I wonder how long it will be before any infighting starts to happen?:?:
 

#juan

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That's a second-best-case scenario Juan, imo. And a pretty sad one at that. Those three don't deserve to hold the reins anymore than Harper does.

Nor any less.
Harper brought this whole problem on himself, and now there is a good chance he will be thrown out of office at the end of January. If that happens, Harper will likely resign and then there will be a replacement for both Harper and Dion. If Harper had been just a little more diplomatic with the opposition, this whole crisis could have been avoided.
 

Outta here

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Nor any less.
Harper brought this whole problem on himself, and now there is a good chance he will be thrown out of office at the end of January. If that happens, Harper will likely resign and then there will be a replacement for both Harper and Dion. If Harper had been just a little more diplomatic with the opposition, this whole crisis could have been avoided.

Absolutely. Agree with every word. Replacing both these fellas with fresh minds that carry no sordid history might go a long way to helping us recover from this madness. Well, we can hope anyway.

You know, I quite liked Dion when the election campaign started. I thought he was a learned man, and a gentle man, with strong ethics, and dignity. One who would bring integrity to the PMO. I always thought Harper was a beady-eyed little Bush-clone. I still think that. But Dion slowly eroded my opinion of him as it became more and more obvious that he too can be pushed to behave atrociously in the name of winning the game. This last escapade has clinched it - I despise them all equally now.

I want a leader with enough integrity to keep their eye on what's best for Canada - even at the absolute worst of our political moments.

(yes, I am sometimes called the eternal optimist loll)
 

JLM

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Right or wrong she did something today that no other G.G. has done in recent history. kudos to her for a gutsy move.
 

JLM

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"This last escapade has clinched it - I despise them all equally now."- You're catching on.
 

Risus

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Risus. can we expect at some time in the future, you will actually read and think before you post? The three stooges, as you call them, will probably form the next government of Canada. What the governor general did, was to put off the inevitable until the end of January.

juan, you are the one who needs to think. IF (and its certainly not sure as the coalition could very well crumble) it gets to a non-confidence vote in January, you will find a number of liberals not showing up to vote so the government will most likely not be defeated.
 

#juan

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Absolutely. Agree with every word. Replacing both these fellas with fresh minds that carry no sordid history might go a long way to helping us recover from this madness. Well, we can hope anyway.

You know, I quite liked Dion when the election campaign started. I thought he was a learned man, and a gentle man, with strong ethics, and dignity. One who would bring integrity to the PMO. I always thought Harper was a beady-eyed little Bush-clone. I still think that. But Dion slowly eroded my opinion of him as it became more and more obvious that he too can be pushed to behave atrociously in the name of winning the game. This last escapade has clinched it - I despise them all equally now.

I want a leader with enough integrity to keep their eye on what's best for Canada - even at the absolute worst of our political moments.

Same as you I thought Dion was going to be a breath of fresh air and we needed politicians who were honest. I went from cheering for him, and listening to him, and mentally trying to help him say difficult words that he had trouble with to yelling at him to spit out the Goddamn word and we would read it.

You know, with the money we pay to our politicians, we should be able to get the very best, and most honest men we have. But somehow we got a disproportionally large group of crooked lawyers, and they seem to corrupt all the new people who are elected. I've started to rant so I'll quit now...;-)
 

Praxius

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I mean no disrespect to the GG, I think she has done her very best in an impossible situation.

I dislike her decision for two reasons;

1.) It sets precedent that the GG is simply the tool of the PM.....and I think that is incorrect.......I do think that if ever there was reason to refuse the PM's request, it was now.

2.) I may be wrong on this, but I think this simply sets the inevitable storm back awhile......everyone gets to stew in their own juices for weeks. Not helpful.

I wanna go toe-to-toe with the GD Separatists and their lapdogs now.......that is what it comes down to.

If the Conservatives had held their ground, they might have lost the confidence of the House, but they would win the next election........

I agree with much of what you said, minus the prediction of the next election.

It was the wrong decision and shows that she did not hold her position with the proper determination to protect this democracy as it should be.

I would have much rathered either the Coal, or an Election call.

As you said, this just delays and fuels the anger already existing without any solution to the problem at hand.

On top of that, now that she allowed Harper to use this delay in order to avoid a non-confidence vote, all the Prime Ministers in the future now have an open door in regards to using this tactic to avoid a confidence votes when they please, which it was not supposed to be used for and completely counter-acts the democracy in which she is supposed to uphold.

For that decision, she should resign.
 

Outta here

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I've posted elsewhere some similar concerns Prax, but I'm still hopeful that somebody - in any party - with half a brain will somehow manage to claw their way to the top of the heap and breath a gasping wisp of life into the carcas of common sense to get the ball rolling in a better direction.

Was the GG wrong? I don't think any of us can really know that until we have the advantage of hindsight. All I know is that this where we're at now, and this grace period can still be used well and wisely, if anyone that can have any effect on the outcome chooses to take action with the sincere intention of improving the situation.

One thing I don't agree with in your comment though is that the GG's decision today sets a precedent for future situations. The situation we find ourselves in right now creates a specific set of criteria upon which she has based her decision.

If and when a future Governor General is called upon to fulfill their official role with such a serious decision, I'm sure the contributing factors will be completely different, and will therefore weigh the decision differently. There will likely be little relevance or value in using this situation as a precedent for future problems requiring GG intervention.

Or one would hope so anyway. If we deteriorate to the point where calling in the GG on even a semi-regular basis to resolve the same types of problems we've already encountered would mean that when it's all said and done, we've learned nothing from this, nor managed to find anywhere in this great, huge land better nor wiser candidates to represent us than the ones who've currently brought us to this unsavory juncture in our history.

What a colossally dismal prospect. 8O...:-(