Wal-Mart Is Facing Latest Salvo From Union

petros

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Explain why the IMF which Canada makes up a hefty chunk is so adamant on International Labour Unions. A hardcore Con from the Mulroney days represents Canada and we apparently fully endorse this as an International platform.

Explain why it's not Global Socialism?

Study what happened in Russia and all the other states as they formed the Soviet system. Wages were levelled from one end of the Soviet Union to the other. Everybody got the same which mean't those in the richer countries had to drop to the a median level between highest and lowest.

It's happening right now and you are playing your role well in ensuring Global Socialist levelling hits us all.

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2011/pol030411a.htm
 

petros

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Explain why the IMF which Canada makes up a hefty chunk is so adamant on International Labour Unions. A hardcore Con from the Mulroney days represents Canada and we apparently fully endorse this as an International platform.

Explain why it's not Global Socialism?

Study what happened in Russia and all the other states as they formed the Soviet system. Wages were levelled from one end of the Soviet Union to the other. Everybody got the same which mean't those in the richer countries had to drop to the a median level between highest and lowest.

It's happening right now and you are playing your role well in ensuring Global Socialist levelling hits us all.

IMF Survey: Vienna Meeting Reaffirms Cooperation of IMF, ILO, Trade Unions
The ITUC’s participation at Vienna was part of a much broader interaction of the Fund and the labor movement that takes place at the country, regional, and international level. A significant majority of IMF country teams include union meetings as a regular part of their interaction with stakeholders, and union meetings have become much more common in consultations on country programs. In addition, Fund staff members often participate in regional union meetings organized by the ITUC—most recently in Mozambique, Senegal, Singapore, and Togo. And Strauss-Kahn regularly meets with union leaders under the auspices of the ITUC and often in the context of G-20 meetings. Last June he addressed the ITUC’s Global Congress in Vancouver, Canada. In January, the ITUC met with IMF and World Bank officials as part of an annual consultation process.

 

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Explain why the IMF which Canada makes up a hefty chunk is so adamant on International Labour Unions. A hardcore Con from the Mulroney days represents Canada and we apparently fully endorse this as an International platform.

Explain why it's not Global Socialism?

Study what happened in Russia and all the other states as they formed the Soviet system. Wages were levelled from one end of the Soviet Union to the other. Everybody got the same which mean't those in the richer countries had to drop to the a median level between highest and lowest.

It's happening right now and you are playing your role well in ensuring Global Socialist levelling hits us all.

IMF Survey: Vienna Meeting Reaffirms Cooperation of IMF, ILO, Trade Unions

Geopolitics aside, my point is that NA labor is hard pressed to compete with overseas labor. No doubt, the relative economies, tax systems, currency valuation, etc. among many other factors play roles. That said, at present, and based on the realities today, NA labor has priced itself out of the global market and will only survive if either governmental bodies move to protect them (via protectionist tariffs & duties) or the labor force moves to be more competitive themselves.
 

petros

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Geopolitics aside, my point is that NA labour is hard pressed to compete with overseas labour. No doubt, the relative economies, tax systems, currency valuation, etc. among many other factors play roles. That said, at present, and based on the realities today, NA labour has priced itself out of the global market and will only survive if either governmental bodies move to protect them (via protectionist tariffs & duties) or the labour force moves to be more competitive themselves.
Mexico is NAU, how many of the auto parts used in the assembly are made down there now? It's gotta be cheaper than Asia. Soon we'll see assembly jobs back in Canada,they will be Union and they will be trained by the Unions to relieve the provinces of running trade schools.

I'm sure you'd like to have NAIT and SAIT offloaded if Unions are the ones filling the classes, they may as well start their own trade schools that are standardized Globally

We'll see TV's and all sorts of goodies with Assembled in Canada proudly emblazoned on the tiny sticker on the back.
 

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Which legislation do we have that gives unions special protection? I've never heard of that before.

The legislation relates to companies having to comply with special procedures and processes relative to disputes with organized labor. This is the reason that groups like dock workers can hold a Port Authority ransom.. They can hold-up the PA for a minimum specified period of time before mediation or binding arbitration is engaged - which also has a time allotment, during this time the corp is essentially unable to do business.

If the unions were subject to the general Employment Standards policies that most everyone is held to, an employee that did not show-up for work (without a confirmed and valid reason) can be fired without consequence.

He figures a tarriff that equals the under-valuation of the RMB is a Union concocted scheme from what I gather.

You'd have a better understanding of the issue if you simply answered my easy question as to why NA labor is uncompetitive in the global marketplace.

You can deflect the issue all you like, but it still doesn't answer that most basic question.
 

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Nuggler,
W|hhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...........


Here's the whole post: "
So, shop at Zellers. Same sh it, different pile. Find a store with only Canadian made goods, with competitive prices, and we'll all go there...............at least I will.......good chance for you to diss the unions now. go for it.

Cdn Tire
Zellers
WalMart
whatever..................most goods made in China


What was your point, China, except to be an asshole??

Oh, I forgot. Your woman found a guy with a dick, and you came home to Canada to whine and bitch and generally make life miserable for everyone.......................So this "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA", belongs to you, right?? Cuckold fukktard.
 

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The legislation relates to companies having to comply with special procedures and processes relative to disputes with organized labor..

The same legislation provides a system of financial penalties, to be drawn from union dues, which would be levied against the union in the event of a wildcat or illegal strike, based on the duration of the strike.

If the unions were subject to the general Employment Standards policies that most everyone is held to, an employee that did not show-up for work (without a confirmed and valid reason) can be fired without consequence.

You have drug induced delusions to think that any employer can fire a long standing employee for simply being late.
 

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Corporate Watch : ASDA Wal-Mart : Overview
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Walmart by any other name is still Walmart.

You'd have a better understanding of the issue if you simply answered my easy question as to why NA labor is uncompetitive in the global marketplace.

You can deflect the issue all you like, but it still doesn't answer that most basic question.

Is North American labour uncompetitive? Not according to this source.

2010 Report: Global manufacturing labor rates, trends and competitiveness | VentureOutsource.com

2010 Report: Global manufacturing labor rates, trends and competitiveness | VentureOutsource.com | Page 2

If would seem that by the standards of industrialized nations North American nations are very competitive indeed. Of course Canada and the US could always lower their standards to the level enjoyed by Chinese and Indian workers.
 

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why in the hell would we want to have competitive labour rates to places like china? We've been there, done it, not doing it again. got it? :)
 

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The same legislation provides a system of financial penalties, to be drawn from union dues, which would be levied against the union in the event of a wildcat or illegal strike, based on the duration of the strike.


Do these penalties go towards the corporation and replace the lost earnings/productivity?


You have drug induced delusions to think that any employer can fire a long standing employee for simply being late.

Being late? Really, that's your response?

An employee that elects not to show up for work for weeks doesn't qualify as being late now, does it?

why in the hell would we want to have competitive labour rates to places like china? We've been there, done it, not doing it again. got it? :)

What exactly does this mean?