The More We Learn, the More Stupid We Become

[TenPenny]

yeah, 2009 is much better then 1959

In 1959, if you had a minor car accident, you would likely die. Today, you can roll a car or have a head on at highway speeds, and the odds are great that you will survive.

In 1959, if you had a heart attack, you pretty much died. Now, we have defibrillators (even in our hockey rinks), and open heart surgery, and our life expectancy is much longer.

In 1959, if you had a child with a learning disability, even minor, the kids was considered a retard, and booted out of the school system. Today, we have specialists to help children reach their potential.

In 1959, if you weren't white and part of the mainstream, you were pretty much marginalized. If you weren't a white Christian, you probably couldn't play golf, or go curling, because the clubs wouldn't let you join. Even if you were a female, you likely weren't allowed to join as a full member.

In 1959, if you lived on PEI, I believe you still needed a permit to be allowed to purchase alcohol.

Yes, it was a joyous time for all.

 

[JLM]

In 1959, if you had a minor car accident, you would likely die. Today, you can roll a car or have a head on at highway speeds, and the odds are great that you will survive.

In 1959, if you had a heart attack, you pretty much died. Now, we have defibrillators (even in our hockey rinks), and open heart surgery, and our life expectancy is much longer.

In 1959, if you had a child with a learning disability, even minor, the kids was considered a retard, and booted out of the school system. Today, we have specialists to help children reach their potential.

In 1959, if you weren't white and part of the mainstream, you were pretty much marginalized. If you weren't a white Christian, you probably couldn't play golf, or go curling, because the clubs wouldn't let you join. Even if you were a female, you likely weren't allowed to join as a full member.

In 1959, if you lived on PEI, I believe you still needed a permit to be allowed to purchase alcohol.

Yes, it was a joyous time for all.

I'd slow down if I was you, you obviously weren't very old in '59. Cars in '59 didn't fold up in the slightest mishap, you could beat on some of them old suckers with a sledge hammer and not much damage would happen. Heart attacks in '59 occurred mainly with old people, young people generally speaking were in good shape and didn't suffering from high cholesterol and hardening of the arteries. I started school in 1949 and never once saw a child expelled from school for being stupid. You been watching too much T.V. (which we also didn't have many of in '59.........just the rich folks).

 

[JLM]

Funny. better than 90% of the ones I know are pretty cool.

YOu got that right Anna (not that I technically consider myself a senior yet), some posters on here will keep grasping at straws until they make themselves look totally ridiculous. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[TenPenny]

I'd slow down if I was you, you obviously weren't very old in '59. Cars in '59 didn't fold up in the slightest mishap, you could beat on some of them old suckers with a sledge hammer and not much damage would happen. Heart attacks in '59 occurred mainly with old people, young people generally speaking were in good shape and didn't suffering from high cholesterol and hardening of the arteries. I started school in 1949 and never once saw a child expelled from school for being stupid. You been watching too much T.V. (which we also didn't have many of in '59.........just the rich folks).

I think you need to get out more, your rose coloured glasses are affecting your brain.

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As for the school system, you're distorting what I said. Kids with learning disabilities weren't expelled, they were shuffled off to the special schools.

 

[AnnaG]

In 1959, if you had a minor car accident, you would likely die.

roflmao You take your Echo and I'll take a 59 Caddy and we'll play chicken at a minor speed of 40 kliks each. How does that sound? I doubt either of us would die. But I'd probably only have to replace the bumper of the Caddy and your Echo would be toast.

Today, you can roll a car or have a head on at highway speeds, and the odds are great that you will survive.

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Same ol same ol. There were good solid cars back in the 50s and some not so good.Same as nowadays.

In 1959, if you had a heart attack, you pretty much died. Now, we have defibrillators (even in our hockey rinks), and open heart surgery, and our life expectancy is much longer.

Yeah. Ain't technology great? We also didn't have so much pollution, oil, etc. around as we do now; another neat thing about technology.

In 1959, if you had a child with a learning disability, even minor, the kids was considered a retard, and booted out of the school system. Today, we have specialists to help children reach their potential.

And they were taught in different institutions. Nowadays they have abilities, but the ones that can't cope aren't in institutions ... they are out in the back alleys groping through dumpsters.

In 1959, if you weren't white and part of the mainstream, you were pretty much marginalized. If you weren't a white Christian, you probably couldn't play golf, or go curling, because the clubs wouldn't let you join. Even if you were a female, you likely weren't allowed to join as a full member.

In 1959, if you lived on PEI, I believe you still needed a permit to be allowed to purchase alcohol.

Yes, it was a joyous time for all.

People in those times seemed to think so in general. Not everyone today is having a great time either.

 

[JLM]

I think you need to get out more, your rose coloured glasses are affecting your brain.

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As for the school system, you're distorting what I said. Kids with learning disabilities weren't expelled, they were shuffled off to the special schools.

I doubt it. Also in '59 we didn't drive at speeds we do today, so we didn't have the wrecks. I'm not sure if kids with mental disabilities wouldn't be better off in a "special" school. They may be able to get more intense attention to deal more directly with their disability w/o taking teacher's time away from the "normal" kids. One of the problems these days is everyone espects to be treated "the same"- that's bullsh*t, would you treat a rhinocerous the same as a dolphin? You should treat each case with the best benefits in mind for that case.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I think there has been entirely too much sweetness and light here, about how great the good old days were, how bad the current times are etc. Well, we can’t have that. So I am going to put forth the contrary viewpoint.

That is a distinctly pessimistic viewpoint, an optimist looks forward. In my opinion, 50 years ago were very unpleasant times. We have it much better today. We are healthier, wealthier, more tolerant, more civilized and live longer compared to 50 years ago.

Anyway, somebody posted these scenarios in the other forum (Canada.com). As a response, I prepared counter scenarios and I can do no better than reproduce that post here.

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The post is reproduced in the next post.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

[FONT=&quot]Trudey, regarding the E Mail. Many bloggers lead empty lives, with nothing better to do. So they dream up these crazy ideas, magnify in their mind a thousand fold how good the ‘good old days’ were (and I agree with Spade, in many respect they were the horrible old days), then think up of just about everything that is not quite right today, and then come up with E Mails like that.

But one can easily come up with a counter E Mail. Let me try:

School – 1958 vs. 2008.

Scenario: A girl in the twelfth grade expresses to her teacher her desire to become an engineer.

2008 – The teacher lauds her for her ambition, suggests to her names of a few good schools she could apply to and offers to help in any way she can.

1958 – She calls over other teachers, other students, tells them of the stupid idea of the airhead of a girl, who thinks she has intelligence enough to become an engineer. A good laugh is had by all, the girl runs from the scene sobbing. She become a housewife and later is dumped by her husband for a trophy wife.

Scenario: A bully beats up a small, delicate boy to within an inch of his life in the schoolyard. When the teacher comes to investigate, the bully explains that he thinks the boy is a homosexual.

2008 – The bully is charged with hate crime, the boy is given proper medical attention and counseling.

1958 – The teacher cuddles the bully. “Oh, you poor dear, did the pervert make an advance towards you? Well, he got all he deserved.” Teacher leads the bully away, administering a kick to the supposedly homosexual boy in the process.

Teacher honors the bully, the homosexual boy commits suicide.

Scenario: An unmarried teacher becomes pregnant. She gets an abortion (in 1958, she goes to Sweden and gets an abortion). What happens?

2008 – Nothing

1958- She loses her job (of course), is thrown out of her apartment, her family disowns her. She commits suicide.


Scenario: Husband beats his wife senseless.

2008 – She complains to her parents. Her parents counsel her to leave her husband and offer to help her in any way they can so she may do so. Or she seeks a battered women's shelter.

1958 – She does nothing. There are no battered women’s shelters, she cannot count on any sympathy from her parents, they probably would tell her to keep on living with her husband (and they wouldn’t believe her anyway, that her upper middle class, educated, well mannered, polite husband would lay a hand on her). Which is exactly what she does do. She lives a life of misery and abuse. Eventually she is killed by her husband.

I could go on and on. I haven’t even touched things like racial discrimination, residential school abuse etc. There were many things seriously wrong with the society in 1958. Now, you may prefer to live in 1958, I personally prefer to live in 2008. I wouldn’t go back if somebody paid me to do it.

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[SirJosephPorter]

I logged on just now, everything seems to be quite, the forum must have been down. Was my previous post really so powerful as to bring the forum down?

 

[Mowich]

Awesome! I water everything. I am also a dog in Chinese astrology so if you mix Aquarian and dog, I guess you could say I mark a lot of territory. lol

Lol, AnnaG. I am an Ox in Chinese astrology. :lol:

 

[JLM]

I logged on just now, everything seems to be quite, the forum must have been down. Was my previous post really so powerful as to bring the forum down?

You never know, Christ walked on water so I guess anything is possible. :lol:

 

[Mowich]

I logged on just now, everything seems to be quite, the forum must have been down. Was my previous post really so powerful as to bring the forum down?

I tried to get on for hours yesterday, SirJP, but no go. Windows kept telling me that the forum was online but not allowing me to contact them. I figured the server might have crashed or something. Glad we are up and running again.

 

[JLM]

I tried to get on for hours yesterday, SirJP, but no go. Windows kept telling me that the forum was online but not allowing me to contact them. I figured the server might have crashed or something. Glad we are up and running again.

The website was out of commission for a good twelve hours, probably plugged up with too much idle chatter. :lol::lol::lol: You're up early or are you just getting back from a hectic night on the town? (Forest Grove) I used to drink in the Legion there back in the 60s.

 

[kryptic]

Know what....when you were growing up, the same laws were in effect then as now. Your parents were lucky that no one, or even you, reported them to social services or you would been removed from the home and your parents charged. How do I know?...because I have kids your age, older, and younger.



This makes no sense at all as to why you couldn't be raising yur own kids like Karrie is doing.


Guess what, we had a recession in the 80's, we had a depression in the 30's. In 1959 we didn't have the health care we have now, not to mention the miriad of other technological advances that have been made since then.

The only thing that made 1959 better than any other year was the fact that both my wife and I were born in that year.:lol:

It was called disipline, thats all.

No I can't be gerry, my ex is a savage biotch. I don't wanna go into more, a lil to personal for the net

Yes, we have recessions in the past, but this one is totally different, this one was brought on because of a massive fraud, I'm not sure how much you have read about it, or what you have read about it, but I spent most of the summer learning about it, because it directly affected me.

 

[Cannuck]

So you are blaming the lack of medical procedures in the 50s on seniors? r

Nope, I'm blaming the lack of lineups and waiting lists on the lack of medical procedures.

Another thing, in 59 if you had a major heart attack outside of a hospital, you were pretty much toast. Today, in the town I live in (pop 300) there are two defibrillators. That's one of the reasons our health system is stretched today. People that used to die 50 years ago are now living. How many transplant survivors was there in 59?

 

[kryptic]

Good. Then what was this all about?

its all about the realistic look I have on things.

 

[kryptic]

Kryptic: I would love to try raising my kids right now, but due to a bunch of legal shiat and a mother that should be shot, I don't have that option, and where do I stand? trying to interpret all this legal non sense on my own, because a lawyer is not an option as we are in a recession right now and money is scarce, legal aid? sure, but I made to much in the previous years.
What about "Dial A Law"? I think you can even go on line for dial a law. It might give you some help.

Thank you, never heard of that, I will look into it.

 

[kryptic]

You are free to believe whatever you like however



Why shouldn't be more self sufficient? Your generation has saddled the younger generation with billions in debt. Kids are behind the eight ball before they even get started on their own.

That right there cannuck, that's one of the major reasons I don't think things are better. I dunno about the rest of you, but I feel my place in society is nothing more then a 'slave'.

and there is no way I will let that happen

 

[Cannuck]

I dunno about the rest of you, but I feel my place in society is nothing more then a 'slave'.

The term slave denotes a lack of choice. That is false.

 

[Cliffy]

That right there cannuck, that's one of the major reasons I don't think things are better. I dunno about the rest of you, but I feel my place in society is nothing more then a 'slave'.

and there is no way I will let that happen

You will have to escape the Matrix then kryptic.