Montreal family kills daughters

[#juan]

That is basically true but I think the old faint hope clause used to kick in after 15.

I wasn't sure so I looked it up.

What is the faint-hope clause?

The faint-hope clause, or judicial review, section 745.6 of the Criminal Code, states that prisoners serving the maximum sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole for 25 years may apply for early parole after serving 15 years.
The clause was added to the Criminal Code after Parliament abolished the death penalty in 1976 and replaced it with mandatory life terms of imprisonment for first-degree and second-degree murder.
A first-degree murder charge requires evidence of premeditation. It also encompasses contract killings and the murder of police officers and prison employees.
The provision was added to encourage rehabilitation for convicted murderers and to align with other countries that allow convicted murderers to be paroled after 15 years.
The section was amended in 1997 to add a review of the case by a judge. It also imposed the requirement for a unanimous agreement, rather than eight out of 12 jurors. People convicted of more than one murder in Canada must serve 25 years before being eligible for parole

 

[lone wolf]

In something like this, I wouldn't object at all to four consecutive life sentences

 

[Durry]

] People convicted of more than one murder in Canada must serve 25 years before being eligible for parole[/B]

25 yrs before being eligible .......does this mean they could be locked up for more than 25 yrs??

 

[Ron in Regina]

25 yrs before being eligible .......does this mean they could be locked up for more than 25 yrs??

Potentially, they may never get out. Think Clifford Olsen or Robert Picton.

In reality, argument could be made that they aren't a danger to society as a
whole...but only to any future children of their own...unlike the two names I
tossed out there. So....your guess is as good as anyone's.

 

[Durry]

Well, the old man will probably die in prison, but the son and wife will be able to survive 25 yrs.. I think ??

 

[bill barilko]

Well, the old man will probably die in prison, but the son and wife will be able to survive 25 yrs.. I think ??

No one can predict the future no one knows who will live and who will die.

But we do know that prison life is hard, medical care is marginal and there is little rehabilitation for those such as the Shafia family.

Note that they will almost certainly never see each other again-the system has a way of dealing with that.

 

[#juan]

Potentially, they may never get out. Think Clifford Olsen or Robert Picton.

In reality, argument could be made that they aren't a danger to society as a
whole...but only to any future children of their own...unlike the two names I
tossed out there. So....your guess is as good as anyone's.

In Olson's case, being eligible didn't help him. He died in prison years after his
twenty five years were up.

 

[Durry]

But we do know that prison life is hard, medical care is marginal and there is little rehabilitation for those such as the Shafia family.

Note that they will almost certainly never see each other again-the system has a way of dealing with that.

I know you cant predict the future, but I was just speculating.
Are you sure about the medical care??? Are you also sure they will never see each other ??? The father and son could wind up in the same prison !!! The wife might get visiting previleges, we live in a socialist society,,you know ???

 

[Sparrow]

I hope this verdict sends a clear message to those who still believe in the barbaric belief. However, I think they should be send back to their country and blacklisted from ever returning to Canada. Yes they deserve jail time but do we deserve to foot the bill for keeping these people in jail.

 

[Durry]

How many other kids did this family have here, does anybody know ?

 

[Sparrow]

Apparently they had 7. In the new they said that the Child Protection Service have removed the children from the home.

 

[TenPenny]

The wife might get visiting previleges, we live in a socialist society,,you know ???

What do those two things have to do with each other? Every once in a while, I think you have a clue, but then you post stuff like this.

 

[bill barilko]

I know you cant predict the future, but I was just speculating.

Bullsh!tting is more like it.

Are you sure about the medical care???

Ever read compliments about Canada's World Class prison health system?

Are you also sure they will never see each other ??? The father and son could wind up in the same prison !!!

In which case officials will ensure they are placed as far from each other as possible-that's how the prison system works.

The wife might get visiting previleges (sic)...

Pigs might fly-they might.

 

[Durry]

Bullsh!tting is more like it.

Ever read compliments about Canada's World Class prison health system?

In which case officials will ensure they are placed as far from each other as possible-that's how the prison system works.

Pigs might fly-they might.

I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Your the bull****ter here.
What do you know about health care in prison vs public,,,,ans nothing!!
Where they place each prisioner, what are the policies,,,,ans. you know sh^t about prison policies !!
Wife visit... Again, prision policy,,,, of which you know nothing about...

Go back and have another beer,,,bull****ter!!!

 

[WLDB]

Meh, little things. They're locked up and given its a multiple murder they wont be getting out.

 

[shadowshiv]

I believe first degree murder carries an automatic sentence of life imprisonment with no chance of parole
for twenty five years.

That is correct, which is why I was glad they were found guilty of first degree murder. I just wish that it could be issued with NO parole allowed ever!

In Olson's case, being eligible didn't help him. He died in prison years after his
twenty five years were up.

In Olson's case, he didn't care. He knew he was never getting out, he just enjoyed putting the families of his victims through the wringer every time his Faint Hope came up. And that is why they need to get rid of it. You murder someone, you serve your entire sentence!

 

[DurkaDurka]

These sick bastards and their cultural BS needs a swift case of lethal injection.

Canada News: Shafia family members guilty of first-degree murder - thestar.com

Good riddance.

 

[Kreskin]

The case sends a clear message to those who value honour more than the life of others. The son will likely get out in his 50's or 60's but any way you slice it his life will be a miserable one for a very long time.

 

[bill barilko]

I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Your the bull****ter here.
What do you know about health care in prison vs public,,,,ans nothing!!

I know people both who work in the prison system and I know people who've served time-which is several orders of magnitude more than you

Where they place each prisioner, what are the policies,,,,ans. you know sh^t about prison policies !!
Wife visit... Again, prision policy,,,, of which you know nothing about...

Again I do have inside info from people who work in the prison system-both in Prince Albert Saskatchewan and Kingston Ontario.

You OTOH rarely leave the confines of the double wide-as anyone reading the drool that you spew here can easily tell.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

Bullshyte. Multiculturalism is neither bad nor good. It is people that are too boneheaded to accept that there are other countries that have standards for behavior. They think they can come here and not adapt to standards here, but keep their own.

Multiculturalism is seen a competitor to Canadianism, and that is bad MCism because it is beyond our control. MCism no longer serves any useful purpose, many thought it was harmless pablum but it has become a weapon to cram tradtional Asian values into Canada the majority do not support at all like honour killing.

Yet to oppose MCism, one is called a racist because you oppose dark skinned Asians and Africans, and you cannot effectively respond because whites have racist and colonial guilt that renders any response meaningless. Time to end that.

MCism is very political and very charged, and immigrants that come here are very often very interested in poltics, while most Canadians aren't interested in politics. So the immigrants are getting their way because they want to work the system, no shun it.

[/QUOTE]
Nonsense. Have you any idea what is in the immigration courses that people have to pass before becoming Canadian citizens? Have you any idea how deeply some people's religions, politics, etc. are that they think can ride over Canadian standards?[/QUOTE]

They still seem to move to their ethnic enclaves and they are growing, as are the frequency of honour killings. Once they get back into their groups-in Canada, they forget the BS paperwork.