Confused about Christ?

Motar

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There is no written record. Most of the NT was written so long after the fact that it not much more than second hand hear say. But according to those stories he did not.

Is rape sexually immoral?
 

gerryh

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Did Jesus specifically identify rape as sexually immoral in the written record?




No, he didn't. He also didn't address fu cking animals, getting fu cked up the a$$, or fisting. He didn't mention white collar or blue collar crime ( at least what we call crime), he never mentioned bullying, pornography, internet luring, do I need to go on? Or have you decided yet to use the brain and free will that God gave you?




Oh, and if you still come up with SSM being a horrible "sin", please explain how it contravenes Christ's greatest commandment.
 

Motar

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No, he didn't.

Agree, Gerry. Jesus did not itemize every sexually immoral activity when he denounced it:

"For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." (Matthew 15:19 NIV)

You're big on written record Motar, seems you forgot all about the central message; love.

Tell us about God's love, SoL.
 

gerryh

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Agree, Gerry. Jesus did not itemize every sexually immoral activity when he denounced it:

"For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander." (Matthew 15:19 NIV)



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Didn't answer my question. no surprise there.
 

Motar

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"John’s baptism—where did it come from? Was it from heaven, or of human origin?" (Matthew 21:25 NIV)

Marriage - where did it come from? Was it from heaven, or of human origin?
 

Motar

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Where did humans come from, heaven or of alien origins?

human (adj.)
mid-15c., humain, humaigne, from Old French humain, umain (adj.) "of or belonging to man" (12c.), from Latin humanus "of man, human," also "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle, polite; learned, refined, civilized," probably related to homo (genitive hominis) "man" (see homunculus) and to humus "earth," on notion of "earthly beings," as opposed to the gods (compare Hebrew adam "man," from adamah "ground"). Cognate with Old Lithuanian zmuo (accusative zmuni) "man, male person."
Online Etymology Dictionary
 

darkbeaver

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human (adj.)
mid-15c., humain, humaigne, from Old French humain, umain (adj.) "of or belonging to man" (12c.), from Latin humanus "of man, human," also "humane, philanthropic, kind, gentle, polite; learned, refined, civilized," probably related to homo (genitive hominis) "man" (see homunculus) and to humus "earth," on notion of "earthly beings," as opposed to the gods (compare Hebrew adam "man," from adamah "ground"). Cognate with Old Lithuanian zmuo (accusative zmuni) "man, male person."
Online Etymology Dictionary

The meat on this bone is adama (red earth) matter as opposed to spirit we are instructed not to cling to earthy things like flesh and bone, excepting of course to produce another coin giving adherant. In truth unproductive relations with a member of the same sex is a waste of time and therefore a sin, period.

(Adamah, purely the feminine or material aspect of Adam, spirit, itself. Deity mixed together spirit and matter to make man.)http://pc93.tripod.com/lostlght.htm


Milton in the Paradise Lost, expresses Adam’s surprise to find that his sentence of "death" for disobedience is a long, living death, not extinction. The account of the Korahitic rebellion expressly states that they were swallowed alive. Happily Chaldean as well as Hindu records reaffirm the correctness of our interpretation, for Massey says:
"The Chaldean and Hindu legends know nothing of a human sin as a cause of the deluge. The sin against the gods, however, is described as the cause of the deluge in the so-called ‘destruction of men.’ . . . But these beings in the case were elemental, not mortal, and the sin was not human."17



A Hawaiian legend also has it that the first man was created from red earth (the meaning of "Adam") mixed with the spittle of the gods, and the triadic god then blew into his nose and bade him rise a living human being. Egyptian ideography pictures that the primeval god Tum conceived within himself, then spat, the spittle becoming the gods Shu and Tefnut, whose union as male and female produced the world. Another Kamite construction holds that the Eye of Ra (symbol of divine intelligence), being injured by the violent assault of Sut, was restored when anointed with spittle by Thoth.




Christians, the modern deluded kind, know zip about the subject, and prefere to remain ignorant of the condition. You can find discussions of the Christ type far back into the earliest recorded times.

Where did humans come from, heaven or of alien origins?

I vote for both, we are creatures of light and mud. I am of course mostly mud.
 

Motar

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Marriage - where did it come from? Was it from heaven, or of human origin?

"Haven’t you read,' he replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?" (Matthew 19:4-5 NIV)
a. Gen. 1:27
b. Gen. 2:24
 

Motar

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You're big on written record

The written record is Christ, SoL:

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14 NIV)

So too are those who belong to Christ:

"You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts." (2 Corinthians 3:3 NIV)
 

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Creation, Nature, Christianity, Marriage all spawn for the same origin.. in the Trinity.

Homosexuality will always be manifestation of Man's Fall, of original sin, of rebellion from God and his nature. It forms itself in the poisoned soil, the inverted moral order, of the Unholy Trinity - Lucifer, Satan, AntiChrist. It is accepted by way of mans Free Will, and the rule of his Pride.

All the human made laws and celebrations will never change that.. it will just corrupt all it infests.. nation or individual.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Creation, Nature, Christianity, Marriage all spawn for the same origin.. in the Trinity.

Homosexuality will always be manifestation of Man's Fall, of original sin, of rebellion from God and his nature. It forms itself in the poisoned soil, the inverted moral order, of the Unholy Trinity - Lucifer, Satan, AntiChrist. It is accepted by way of mans Free Will, and the rule of his Pride.

All the human made laws and celebrations will never change that.. it will just corrupt all it infests.. nation or individual.
And cultures that never heard of the Trinity and those that don't believe in the Trinity have marriage because. . .?