Hey, Cannuck- I know Bear has the fault of being overly subtle at times but I've been detecting a hint or two from him to you, you might want to take a look at. :smile:
Which would be a fair comparison if the US had the same multi tiered limits, restrictions, and regulations.
Tell me, does any US State have Highway/Traffic laws that dictate at what speed different classifications of tires can go? Highway/Traffic laws that restrict speed limits for different types of vehicles? Highway/Traffic laws limiting use by vehicles that can not maintain speeds in excess of X?
I reiterate, your link, simply supports JLM's position. Whether or not you think so.
Cannuk - Did not see an answer from you on this. Possibly I missed it?
Hey, Cannuck- I know Bear has the fault of being overly subtle at times but I've been detecting a hint or two from him to you, you might want to take a look at. :smile:
Did you check out any of links I supplied as requested?
Yeah, I read a couple of them!
It's interesting that seniors, as a group, are some of the worst drivers and only have a lower accident rate because they drive less. Do you support laws that limit the amount you drive (if it saves one child, isn't it worth it)
It's interesting that seniors, as a group, are some of the worst drivers and only have a lower accident rate because they drive less. Do you support laws that limit the amount you drive (if it saves one child, isn't it worth it)
Yep, among the worst are the impaireds, the speeders, the tailgaters, ones who won't yield, and the ones who don't pay attention..................did I miss anyone? Statistically speaking males under 30.
The seniors included in that group can be in their 80s or even 90s, which of course doesn't help the group as a whole. Seniors demographically start at age 65 (55 in some instances) . I see people trying to drive quite often who have very few of their faculties left and shouldn't be anywhere near the drivers seat of a vehicle, and I wouldn't be comfortable if they even drove one mile a year. But from the statistics, to surmise a person 65 or even 75 is less safe than the rest of the population is pure nonsense. Not only that older people often have enough sense to limit their driving. My sons for instance will drive down town 6 times a day for some reason on a whim, I might drive down town once a day - if I have a 3 P.M. dental appointment, I will save everything until then and do it all at once- so actually older people on average are safer because they are more sensible. :lol:
...statistically speaking senior citizens.
You can make all the justifications you want but the simple reality is that the stats show that seniors are worse drivers than the young kids and only have a lower accident rate because they don't drive as much. Do you think it may be time to, in your words, "tighten the screws". Maybe we can pass a law that seniors are not allowed to drive during rush hour. I'm sure that would help. No night time driving for you could definitely make things safer. We could get the cops to crack down on people that leave their signal light on for three days. I'm sure you would be in favour of these measures as it only targets the worst drivers (statistically speaking)
Let me make sure I have this straight because "seniors" include all people between age 65 and 110 who are driving and as a group have an inferior record, that means an individual, 66 years old should have his driving curtailed without doing any individual checking? Do I have that right? F.Y.I. there are people well into their 70s driving semi trailers 14 hours a day. Should they be taken off the road?
Let me make sure I have this straight because "under thirty" include all people between age 16 and 30 who are driving and as a group have an inferior record, that means an individual, 29 years old should have his insurance jacked up without doing any individual checking? Do I have that right?
What's good for the goose as they say. You don't seem to like it much when the shoe is on the other foot.
Nope
Why is it that you are willing to accept grey areas with some issues but can't seem to see the grey issues on others? Is your eyesight failing?
Which grey areas?
Yep, among the worst are the impaireds, the speeders, the tailgaters, ones who won't yield, and the ones who don't pay attention..................did I miss anyone? Statistically speaking males under 30.
Let me make sure I have this straight because "seniors" include all people between age 65 and 110 who are driving and as a group have an inferior record, that means an individual, 66 years old should have his driving curtailed without doing any individual checking? Do I have that right? F.Y.I. there are people well into their 70s driving semi trailers 14 hours a day. Should they be taken off the road?
Some things seem to be so black and white with you (despite all the evidence that they aren't black and white).
And there are also people who drive, after drinking, and have never had an accident, so by your logic, we shouldn't penalize all drunk drivers as a group, just because some of them can't drive.
Let me make sure I have this straight because "seniors" include all people between age 65 and 110 who are driving and as a group have an inferior record, that means an individual, 66 years old should have his driving curtailed without doing any individual checking? Do I have that right? F.Y.I. there are people well into their 70s driving semi trailers 14 hours a day. Should they be taken off the road?
If anything, multi-tiered speed limits should make the road less safe. Uniform speed of all vehicles would be preferred.
Without searching the net, I would say yes (because I see no reason to believe it would be any different than Canada) but as I said, having varying speeds of vehicles on a given stretch of road is more hazardous. It's one of the reasons slow moving vehicles use hazard lights.
I reiterate, my link, does not supports JLM's position. Whether or not you think so
Didn't miss it. Can't be bothered to search for it. If you have a point maybe you should just make it.
CB is a fool. He thinks having vehicles traveling on a highway at varying speeds makes for a safer highway. A simple drive down Alberta Hwy #3 during harvest shows that he clearly has no idea what he is talking about (surprise surprise).
Did you check out any of links I supplied as requested?
I have to chime in on this. As a professional driver I would say that as a group seniors and new drivers are about equal as dangers on the roads.
To directly answer you JLM there should be mandatory medical and vision/hearing tests once a year starting at age 65 and increasing to twice a year at age 70 and going to every quarter at age 75. We know that once a person passes into senior status the chance to develop many illnesses that would impair judgment or physical ability increase exponentially as the years pass so I want to know they are being monitored closely.
Now new drivers and those under the age of 22 are another bad lot so lets make the age for obtaining a DL higher...say 18 or 19. We should also require every new driver, regardless of age, to pass a language test (I have heard the excuse many times of "i couldn't read the sign") and participate in professional driving education until they pass with 95% or higher. There should also be a federal system like BC uses for new drivers where they have to display an L or an N depending on their status to warn other drivers they are new. There should also be restrictions on when and where a person may drive until they prove they have enough experience.
Well you seem to have all the answers to I went to the Mountain as Mohamed did.
I have to chime in on this. As a professional driver I would say that as a group seniors and new drivers are about equal as dangers on the roads.
To directly answer you JLM there should be mandatory medical and vision/hearing tests once a year starting at age 65 and increasing to twice a year at age 70 and going to every quarter at age 75. We know that once a person passes into senior status the chance to develop many illnesses that would impair judgment or physical ability increase exponentially as the years pass so I want to know they are being monitored closely.
Now new drivers and those under the age of 22 are another bad lot so lets make the age for obtaining a DL higher...say 18 or 19. We should also require every new driver, regardless of age, to pass a language test (I have heard the excuse many times of "i couldn't read the sign") and participate in professional driving education until they pass with 95% or higher. There should also be a federal system like BC uses for new drivers where they have to display an L or an N depending on their status to warn other drivers they are new. There should also be restrictions on when and where a person may drive until they prove they have enough experience.