Abortion is not Immoral
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The first six words of your question were excellent, you could have saved ink by stopping there. :lol::lol::lol:
Another opinion. Of course, being self-substantiating leaves room for a LOT of doubt about the accuracy. eannasir does the same thing, he uses the Quran to substantiate itself and calls it fact. Freakin hilarious.Religion has nothing to do with it.
Perhaps the answer is not to have adaption records available.... and yes I have a great value system
Adaption? roflmao
YukonJack, had my mother been pro-abortion, which she was, and had be aborted I would not be here typing. As an embryo I would have had some pain, I would imagine, for a few minutes and my life would have terminated.
If my father would have pull out prior it would not have been an abortion.. I would not have felt anything and who cares as It may have happened mady times before I was conceived.
Now that said, I personally do believe there are few exceptions where abortion is acceptable. It beats having kids on the street, drugged up, freezing to death, stealing, beaten and sexually abused to make money to survive.
That said I have always took it upon myself to be responsible and "planned" my kids birth. I also took in a child to ensure she did not end up n the streets as one I listed above. Not every one can afford or have the patience, time or skill to do so.
The fact is the Church wants people to have more and more kids ( don't believe in protection, only procreation ) and no abortion yet government has no assistance for those who have issues, kid problems or death of parents. Your on your own baby after that kid is born with no mention of medical problems and job losses and school issues your kids face. It's funny when your rich how everyone runs to your aide to bend over backwards and kiss you a$$ to help you but if your mid class or poor your one your own if you have a problem child.. I know as I have been doing it for 16 years now..
seriously now, having safe sex is one of the simplest and easiest responsabilities you'll ever have to take care of, especially when you are given free condoms and birth control at planned parenthood and a few other places. People are dumb! Which is why there are even arguments like this in the first place......just sayin'
Everyone is anti-abortion until there 14 year od daugher comes home pregnant. I know of a family whose daughter did exactly that. The Christian family had two choices. Face church ridicule for having a pregnant daughter or have an abortion in quiet and avoid the pressures.
This topic is a double edged sword.
This topic is a double edged sword.
Yep, that's another aspect of the issue. The Bible preeches understanding and compassion but most regular church goers (that I've met) seemed to have skipped that chapter. I'm not sure if there is anything in the Bible about "minding your own business", but they could brush up on that too.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
That means no rumour mill and talking **** behind someones back.
That means no rumour mill and talking **** behind someones back.
don’t forget, "judge not lest ye be judged."
and "thou without sin shall cast the first stone."
ppl forget those ones too!
oh and "thou shall not covenant thy neighbors wife."
that's a big one ppl forget!!
and "thou without sin shall cast the first stone."
ppl forget those ones too!
oh and "thou shall not covenant thy neighbors wife."
that's a big one ppl forget!!
"Covenanting" the neighbour's wife was one I wasn't aware of.
That must be another word for fornicating.
For all those who argue that every human life is sacred from the moment of conception on, etc etc, I ask a question: how do you justify eating meat, fish, or even eggs? What about vegetables and grain?
How can you argue that life is sacred, if you're quite willing to kill other living creatures?
And to JLM: the moment you start railing against Trudeau in this sort of discussion, you lose pretty much every bit of credibility you'd ever hope to have. You sound like a wingnut, left behind 25 years ago.
How can you argue that life is sacred, if you're quite willing to kill other living creatures?
And to JLM: the moment you start railing against Trudeau in this sort of discussion, you lose pretty much every bit of credibility you'd ever hope to have. You sound like a wingnut, left behind 25 years ago.
OK Tencents- I guess about the same way, you do, it's either that or starve to death - that would be the perfect example of a question I'd expect a "wingnut" to ask. Obviously our opinions of Trudeau differ and that's your perfect right, and if you like repaying the several hundred billion $ worth of debt he accrued, that's also your perfect right- others who stick the unsuspecting public with so much debt get charged with fraud and spend several years in durance vile.
I thought we live in a democracy where decision are made by the popular consensus? On that line of thinking and blame, every last PM would be a dictator on a 4 year option.
I think it'd be cool to get back to the topic.
As I said, morality is dependant upon a range of factors including even geography. Climate is probably a factor, for the love of Mike/Michelle. Is it moral to condemn abortion and support market speculation (that affects millions of lives and probably kills indirectly)? People's priorities really baffle me.
As I said, morality is dependant upon a range of factors including even geography. Climate is probably a factor, for the love of Mike/Michelle.
Is it moral to condemn abortion and support market speculation (that affects millions of lives and probably kills indirectly)? People's priorities really baffle me.