ZED not ZEE...

JLM

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colour not color
Neighbour not neighbor
honour not honor
zed not zee
lieutenant is pronounced "left-tenant" ( I know why...do you?)

As a Canadian do you adhere to the above Canadianisms?

Yep, the way we were taught in school and I also say "roooooooof" not "rough". BUT none of the above is worth making enemies over. The main thing is we can understand each other.
 

VanIsle

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Yep, the way we were taught in school and I also say "roooooooof" not "rough". BUT none of the above is worth making enemies over. The main thing is we can understand each other.
Well JLM, I think that the Americans can have their funny way of pronouncing some of the English Language which seems more and more to be called speaking American. I see no reason to argue with them about how they wish to spell or say a word. I see every reason to argue with another Canadian who wants to pronounce words the American way. I guess it's not even that really. I should say I see every reason to argue with a person who has immigrated to Canada and wants us to pronouce words the American way. As always, I am a firm believer in those who immigrate to Canada fully becoming Canadian. Not part Canadian and part some other country. It's completely black and white to me. You are either Canadian or not. You know I have always believed that if you want Canada to change into the country you left (or perhaps the country you would rather live in) then you should go home because this is not the country for you.;-)
 

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Well JLM, I think that the Americans can have their funny way of pronouncing some of the English Language which seems more and more to be called speaking American. I see no reason to argue with them about how they wish to spell or say a word. I see every reason to argue with another Canadian who wants to pronounce words the American way. I guess it's not even that really. I should say I see every reason to argue with a person who has immigrated to Canada and wants us to pronounce words the American way. As always, I am a firm believer in those who immigrate to Canada fully becoming Canadian. Not part Canadian and part some other country. It's completely black and white to me. You are either Canadian or not. You know I have always believed that if you want Canada to change into the country you left (or perhaps the country you would rather live in) then you should go home because this is not the country for you.;-)

Yes! I like your style. Well said!
 

JLM

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Is it 'honour' or 'honor'?

Is it 'saviour' or 'savior'?

Depends on where you are, I use the "u" because that's the accepted spelling in Canada and the way I was taught in school. Ironically my mother's name was "Honor", spelt that way and yet her parents were very English. I have no problem with it without the "u", due to my own philosophy of keeping things as simple as possible. IT is certainly not a subject to make enemies over.
 

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When I was treaching my two-year old grand daughter the song about the ALPHABET, I was (well no, I was NOT) surprised that she picked up the anomaly of ZED vs. ZEE.

Just goes to show that an average two-year old is smarter than the mouldy monarchy-loving, rooted-in-the-past defiers and deniers of common sense and pragmatism.
 

YukonJack

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"You worry too much about the pettiest of details. Are you and Joey kin"

Please, no insults!

I am only trying to say that defying common sense and pronouncing the last letter of the ALPHABET as ZED does not make you a better Canadian than me.

 
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VanIsle

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"You worry too much about the pettiest of details. Are you and Joey kin"

Please, no insults!

I am only trying to say that defying common sense and pronouncing the last letter of the ALPHABET as ZED does not make you a better Canadian than me.
I think it does. He's not trying to change something your daughter probably listened to on Sesame Street.
 

VanIsle

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Depends on where you are, I use the "u" because that's the accepted spelling in Canada and the way I was taught in school. Ironically my mother's name was "Honor", spelt that way and yet her parents were very English. I have no problem with it without the "u", due to my own philosophy of keeping things as simple as possible. IT is certainly not a subject to make enemies over.
My husband and I do genealogy. The name Honor or Honora was very common in Britain in the 1800's.
 

JLM

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My husband and I do genealogy. The name Honor or Honora was very common in Britain in the 1800's.

That is quite correct, my mother (born in 1916) was never addressed as "Honor"- her names were Honor Margaret and was called "Peggy".
 

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There are a lot of Americanizations of the English language in Canadian. There's one hidden in the very word. Brits would spell it with an 's'. Would you buy a tire with a stick on the bottom? Brits use tyres all the time.

Where Americanization causes confusion is in that "er" thing. The only thing ER should follow is a car accident. Caliber.... Meter.... Center.... Is it caliberated, meteric and centeralized? If it was spelled right in the first place, maybe Americans could spell.....

'Zed' or 'zee'? There ARE bigger fish to fry.
 

JLM

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There are a lot of Americanizations of the English language in Canadian. There's one hidden in the very word. Brits would spell it with an 's'. Would you buy a tire with a stick on the bottom? Brits use tyres all the time.

Where Americanization causes confusion is in that "er" thing. The only thing ER should follow is a car accident. Caliber.... Meter.... Center.... Is it caliberated, meteric and centeralized? If it was spelled right in the first place, maybe Americans could spell.....

'Zed' or 'zee'? There ARE bigger fish to fry.

Yep, there is lots of that "Kerb" is another.
 

lone wolf

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...anyhow, why would anyone take a letter made to fit the shape of a nursary rhyme song as gospel? Hell, it doesn't even have its own music..... Twinkle, Twinkle and the Black Sheep need better lawyers.....
 

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When I was treaching my two-year old grand daughter the song about the ALPHABET, I was (well no, I was NOT) surprised that she picked up the anomaly of ZED vs. ZEE.

Just goes to show that an average two-year old is smarter than the mouldy monarchy-loving, rooted-in-the-past defiers and deniers of common sense and pragmatism.

That's only because you taught her the alphabet by rhyming. You're just part of the SesameStreet / US based 'educational television' system.

Why isn't 'm' pronounced 'mee'? You seem to want every letter to rhyme, so why stop with 'z'? Why not change all of them?