Youth raped and beat Edmonton grandmother

[B00Mer]

Seriously. Corporal punishment has never prevented someone from becoming a violent offender. That is a twist in your logic that you're not likely to sell someone on. Being too soft on kids doesn't make them go out and beat grandmas half to death and rape them. You're taking a bizarre leap there. Really bizarre.

Look. I'm home.. not posting from a phone, so I can explain things a little better.

What I am saying, is that today's society both parents are often out working and the children are at home with no parent, role model or guidance.

Also, I think that a stick up bringing, lets say military school or doing chores and if you do something wrong a proper punishment.. help a person learn to be a good person and develop values.

This is lacking in today's society with the one parent, or busy parents..

I mean come on.. people put TV's in the back of their car seats to substitute for actually spending time with their children.. an electronic babysitter. How about a game of License Plate Poker..

As far as corporal punishment, OMG!! The kids going to report you to the police if you spank them.. this is what I would say to my kid; "you want to call the police, but the minute they leave your going to get a spanking twice as hard and grounded for life, or in a military school" :lol: (joking there)

Last question, Karrie, I think your center left in your political views.

 

[karrie]

Look. I'm home.. not posting from a phone, so I can explain things a little better.

What I am saying, is that today's society both parents are often out working and the children are at home with no parent, role model or guidance.

Also, I think that a stick up bringing, lets say military school or doing chores and if you do something wrong a proper punishment.. help a person learn to be a good person and develop values.

This is lacking in today's society with the one parent, or busy parents..

I mean come on.. people put TV's in the back of their car seats to substitute for actually spending time with their children.. an electronic babysitter. How about a game of License Plate Poker..

As far as corporal punishment, OMG!! The kids going to report you to the police if you spank them.. this is what I would say to my kid; "you want to call the police, but the minute they leave your going to get a spanking twice as hard and grounded for life, or in a military school" :lol: (joking there)

Last question, Karrie, I think your center left in your political views.

Basically Boomer, the only way I think a parent can create a rapist is through severe abuse, molestation, and downright torture. I would really challenge you to come up with some studies explaining how lack of moral guidance turns someone into a violent rapist. Despite your attempt to more concisely explain, you really aren't backing up your assertion.

To become this twisted, this cruel, takes something more than lack of discipline or bad parenting.

 

[EagleSmack]

That is a rape with violence causing bodily harm. That's not a light one ES.

Ah. Gotcha

Aggravated Assault puts it into the sentencing category of attempted murder without having to prove intent to try to kill the person.

Thanks....

Waiting others.

Let me get this straight. You claim that by physically assaulting your child, you teach them not to physically assault others?
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Let me get this straight... you are unaware that purple font denotes sarcasm in CanCon?

 

[B00Mer]

To become this twisted, this cruel, takes something more than lack of discipline or bad parenting.

Here is a great answer for you.. sorry I can't take credit for this response.. not sure I want too

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The truth is there is no specific thing that causes someone to become a rapist. Some people have great parents with great upbringings and they end up raping females for the shear fact that they want to.

It is definitely possible that a neglected or abusive childhood can increase the chances that someone will rape if they already have the natural urge to. But there have been many people who have had much worse childhoods than the person who raped you and have ended up becoming law abiding citizens.

Basically all males have had thoughts of rape in their lifetime. It is natural for us to have these thoughts. It stems back to the caveman days when the males would see a female wondering in the woods, clock her over the head, and drag her back to the cave as their prize. It shouldn't be looked at as such a horrible thing that ruins your life. We are just animals (really smart ones I might add). So when a guy gets the urge to rape a woman he is just acting upon his instinctive urges. At some point in time the males realized that all the females kept getting stolen and raped constantly so they thought, "well, how about nobody rapes the females anymore to be fair to each other. And if anybody rapes a chick they will get locked in a cage. And here were are today turning it into something it is not.

written by Lenhard Eular




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[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Let me get this straight. You claim that by physically assaulting your child, you teach them not to physically assault others?

You might want to understand what purple text means on this board.

 

[earth_as_one]

No I was not aware purple meant sarcasm. I thought it was (sarcasm alert).

 

[karrie]

Here is a great answer for you.. ... And here were are today turning it into something it is not.

written by Lenhard Eular




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wtf? At some point while he was talking about how thoughts of rape are normal, yes, I agree. Minds wander, etc. But, his closing remark is distanced from the discussion of natural thoughts, and reads as if he's saying that we are overly sensitive about the ACTION of rape.

Regardless....you prove my point. smacking your children around won't prevent them becoming rapists.

 

[EagleSmack]

Oh my gosh

 

[earth_as_one]

I'm fairly certain rape crosses the mind of all males.... But thinking and doing are different things. Its impossible to control the thoughts that cross ones mind, but everyone must control their actions. I am against attempting to control what people think or punishing people for their thoughts. Only actions should have consequences.

 

[karrie]

btw, Yahoo Answers psychology section isn't exactly valid psychology reference material

 

[B00Mer]

btw, Yahoo Answers psychology section isn't exactly valid psychology reference material

Can't you just friggin laugh..

I have forum burn out form all the political BS over the last 3 weeks..

 

[karrie]

Can't you just friggin laugh..

I have forum burn out form all the political BS over the last 3 weeks..

You're asking a rape victim, to laugh at an article like that.

Why don't you go look for the articles I've posted in the fun and jokes sections. I'm not a barrel of laughs in THIS one, no.

 

[EagleSmack]

I'm fairly certain rape crosses the mind of all males.....

Wha... WHAT!

 

[B00Mer]

You're asking a rape victim, to laugh at an article like that.

Why don't you go look for the articles I've posted in the fun and jokes sections. I'm not a barrel of laughs in THIS one, no.

get a friggin life Karrie.. it's a news article.. a sexual assault occurs every 2 minutes in America.. yup your so incensed over 1.

As tragic as it is.. it's part of life.. I just hope the punishment fits the crime..

Life sucks..

 

[karrie]

Which '1' am I incensed over? I've dealt with the fallout of so many Boomer, it becomes impossible to sit and listen to someone say I should laugh a little about the topic. So which ones should get shrugged off? Which ones matter? Enlighten me.

 

[SLM]

I'm fairly certain rape crosses the mind of all males....

Rape crosses the mid of all males????Are you frigging serious???? I'm positive it doesn't actually.

I'm sure that sex crosses the mind of all males (and all females too btw) though. Completely different issues/topics though.

 

[karrie]

Rape crosses the mid of all males????Are you frigging serious???? I'm positive it doesn't actually.

I'm sure that sex crosses the mind of all males (and all females too btw) though. Completely different issues/topics though.

Dark fantasies are pretty common. But what that manifests as is pretty different for every individual. It's not abnormal so long as it stays a fantasy and not a compulsion.

 

[EagleSmack]

Rape crosses the mid of all males????Are you frigging serious???? I'm positive it doesn't actually.

Yes he is serious...disgustingly so.

I'm sure that sex crosses the mind of all males (and all females too btw) though. Completely different issues/topics though.

But he said Rape. He knew what he was saying.

I am certain it doesn't... but we're talking about EAO's twisted mind.

 

[SLM]

Dark fantasies are pretty common. But what that manifests as is pretty different for every individual. It's not abnormal so long as it stays a fantasy and not a compulsion.

I understand fantasies and I understand dark fantasies. Sexual fantasies. Which are vast and as varied as the number of individuals who have them.

But rape is an act of violence which has nothing whatsoever to do with sex. So I still do not buy that all males fantasize about violence.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Do you realize how ridiculous you sound making it a political issue? Who's the stay at home mom on this board? What political label do people give me? Who says anti-spanking laws are dumb, and talks about having spanked her kids? And what lame *** political label do you partisan hacks always try to give me?

Seriously. Corporal punishment has never prevented someone from becoming a violent offender. That is a twist in your logic that you're not likely to sell someone on. Being too soft on kids doesn't make them go out and beat grandmas half to death and rape them. You're taking a bizarre leap there. Really bizarre.

You're right and even CAPITAL punishment hasn't even worked as a deterrent against crime! What chance does corporal punishment have??