Yeah yeah yeah more Afganistan threads...well one more

[jimmoyer]

You know there is a phenomenon about evil that
is quite interesting.

You see it not just in politics, but in every other venue
as in job sites, families, relationships.

It's the idea of low expectations.

If you see a bad person, as in vicious or as in incompetent, you will often see those who judge
this person give that person a "bye".

They obviously expect nothing good from that person
so their anger is no longer stoked.

But for those we expect more of, we are crazy with
anger and disgust.

You see this with terrorists. We expect nothing
from them. And so anger is almost non-existent.

You see the anger at America or NATO or at the
sarcasticly named "Mayor of Kabul"
for not doing more, for not doing it
better, for not being successful.

 

[Curiosity]

JimMoyer

Terrorism is a strange "bad" in our world because we are geared to believe "bad acts" involve the taking of money, objects, lives, properties, for self gain or perhaps "legitimate reasons for them", whereas terrorists aren't in the business of "taking money" or anything else we in our western world revere.

The fact they are after our souls never enters our heads - because we are also brought up to believe nobody can "steal our souls".

That belief would also be wrong.

Indoctrination of unimaginable means can remove our selection process, our discrimination between right and wrong, delete the innate humanity in all of us we expect to experience, caring for others and our young - witness the young Islamic militants who have had their very intellect stolen and act as robots for their masters.

I doubt these militant robots experience much in the way of love as they exist in fear and idolatry - and sexual love is merely the act of procreation or relief.

And those in our western societies have no idea what they are willing to give up when they promote the "rights" of terrorists groups.

 

[Zzarchov]

United Nations is Right, these are horrible people in power, give him that.

United Nations is also apparently a goldfish with a 30 second memory.

These warlords are progressive compared to the taliban.

Id hate to see you in charge of foster children.

"This childs new foster parent is a drunk who beats him almost monthly"

"He's the only one we have for now"

"I don't care..put him back with his original parent! we have no right to make him live like this"

"His original guardian was a paedophile who cut off his toes with boltcutters for fun..."

"LALALALALA! not listening..we're all terrorists and this is bushes plan, put him back with his original guardian"

etc etc etc

 

[Curiosity]

EastSideScotian

You write:

Amen to that, Nations also has alot of things wrong about the Afgani Government, also Everything one posts that is remotely supportive of the War or troops gets slammed or responed by anti-war fools who usally have thier facts and morals all twisted up, and want to start an arguement over anything. but then again its a forum what do i expect.

Just remember forums have their detractors and their political "sides" but please don't forget there are people who are pleased to see articles such as the one you have linked us to - it gets tiring reading all the hate and negativity especially against the military who serve.

If we were all afraid to voice our opinions, the forums would become "onesided slap-on-the-back-boring" led by those who yell the most often.

Democracy is made up of input from many of differing opinions. I hope we can continue to have that even on a forum.

 

[jimmoyer]

Indoctrination of unimaginable means can remove our selection process, our discrimination between right and wrong, delete the innate humanity in all of us we expect to experience, caring for others and our young - witness the young Islamic militants who have had their very intellect stolen and act as robots for their masters.
-----------------------Wednesday's Child-----------------------

No doubt the liberal left think the same has been
done to us.

Is it such sophistry to make such a facile and easy
comparison ??

To me it is a shallow comparison.
To others it is not.

 

[BitWhys]

yeah that's right WC

its all sunshine and fricking lollipops

 

[jimmoyer]

Yep this is the Good Shit Lollipop.

 

[Curiosity]

JimMoyer

No doubt the liberal left think the same has been
done to us.

Is it such sophistry to make such a facile and easy
comparison ??

Sorry - I had to go look up sophistry (lol).... Nah not at all. The easy going public almost welcome being led, not using the brains they have been given, afraid to have a look see at the other side out of their comfort zones - and I would say at least 75% of any western democratic citizen can be switched over to being led given enough time and trinkets. Sheeple.

Surprisingly we have been guarded carefully from that by the naysayers...those who speak out and speak up as to the possibilities of
unquestioned leadership.... I even enjoy all the screaming about Bush although it has become a mantra now with no thought behind it - but at least the people are questioning the government and its every move.

The liberals think we are all at Disneyland waiting for the next ride. Just cast your mind back to some of the Gore talk as an example. Or Bubba's regime.

As "long as people love us".... is the theme song to the ride of Bubba's wagon.

That's it is ok to falsify documents and reasons for not being drafted, or telling lies to the country (who cares about the Congress) - the people of the country about some sick little tryst in the Oval Office....

Nah the history of liberal leadership reads like Indoctrination 101....

 

[Curiosity]

yeah that's right WC

its all sunshine and fricking lollipops

BitWhys

Where ya been for the last 20 years - the United Nations are always out of money - they'll just come knocking at the door of the United States treasury again and get the necessary funds.

If they'd just stop taking a cut of the pie for themselves when they do their good "peacekeeping". How about some of their best friends ante up the Food for Oil money hmmmmmmmmm?

 

[BitWhys]

meanwhile back in the real world starving people are getting help from the Taliban because its their only option and what goes around comes around.

 

[jimmoyer]

meanwhile back in the real world starving people are getting help from the Taliban because its their only option and what goes around comes around.
--------------------------BitWhys------------------------------

....and you're forgetting quintessential Taliban
entertainment for the vox populi at the football field,
full of shootings, beheading, neck carvings...

 

[BitWhys]

I'm not forgetting. The locals are. That's how bad its getting.

 

[jimmoyer]

Oh, BitWhys, we outsiders think the locals forgot ??

 

[BitWhys]

if its a matter of being an outsider that decides our authority to intervene then we have no right to decide Afghanistan's fate either way.

 

[jimmoyer]

Well, I guess we have the audacity to believe they
forgot about the Taliban's entertainment talents,
and so I guess we have the audacity and chutzpah
to leave them to their kind fate as well.

 

[BitWhys]

no one's saying that.

except maybe you.

 

[jimmoyer]

I'm not forgetting. The locals are. That's how bad its getting.

if its a matter of being an outsider that decides our authority to intervene then we have no right to decide Afghanistan's fate either way.
--------------------------BitWhys----------------------------------------------


Disagree.

 

[BitWhys]

with what?

 

[BitWhys]

no

really

what did I say that you disagree with?

 

[Just the Facts]

yeah that's right WC

its all sunshine and fricking lollipops

O give me a break, there was drought and famine in Afghanistan way before the response-to-9/11 war. You are forgetting there were over a million Afghans living in squalid refugee camps along the border in Pakistan before the Northern Alliance / Coalition cleared out the Taliban.