Are you saying that the cause is known and calling mentalfloss a moron, or are you saying that a known moron is the cause?
Clarification, please.
Wynne SLAMS Harper over missing, murdered aboriginal women comments
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Are you saying that the cause is known and calling mentalfloss a moron, or are you saying that a known moron is the cause?
Clarification, please.
I've never insinuated that strangers are plucking women off the streets.
And there is no evidence to support that an inquiry should delay any action.
And there is no evidence to support that an inquiry should delay any action.
What action? Hopefully you've read the troubling stats on fatherless kids? How do the numbers compare to FNs?
Nearly half of children in foster care Aboriginal: Statistics Canada » APTN National News
There is the problem. What can be done to solve it?
What be this town thing? Did you miss the post where I said the next important real event is in the Ukraine and I might as well show you my version of trolling in a way that keeps a lot of you from bothering the general public. Think of it as a form of community service. You should learn to ask which side took the bridge out before you get all concluded up in the fine mind you have. Been saving it all these years just for now probably too.
How come all the things I chuckle at aren't worth a nickle?
Why not, that's what is most likely happening, and it isn't their friends and family doing it, . . until you know better and the difference is probably easy see. For the moment give them access to all the cameras in the danger zones and the network that lets them use it. They can send a still to the Police and 50 Police were not needed to find that one useful photo.
If Harper won’t call inquiry, Canadians should get a new prime minister: Ghiz
And the police are actually calling on all levels of government to recognize and take action on the underlying, social causes for everyone's info.
And the police are actually calling on all levels of government to recognize and take action on the underlying, social causes for everyone's info.
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Then what? Make "we're sorry" payments again after more kids end up in foster care and the abuse associated?
Even with massive reductions in crimes I still live in the most violent city in Canada. There is a population boom and the kids are lacking the stabilty a two parent household brings.
Double the rate of single parents bring twice the violence and criminality just as the numbers show.
To the money sniffing Premiers. Good luck getting social program funding from the Feds. There is enough access as it is. There are 70 agencies in 1sq mile. They could all be under one roof if they got their sh-t together without costing more. It's redundancy with a sh-tty delivery system.
At one time, the left was rightly skeptical of conservatives who sought to manufacture public hysteria as a means to achieving their ideological ends. Today, they’ve become masters of the craft.
Canada is currently in the midst of something of a fashionable fluster over the plight of “missing and murdered indigenous women,” a five-word phrase that’s become a ubiquitous part of the Canadian socio-political vocabulary, complete with its own hashtag. There now exists an archipelago of institutions devoted to the #MMIW cause, which presents itself as one of modern Canada’s darkest crises. The common refrain that the federal government has an obligation to commission a report on the phenomenon reached a fevered pitch this week as the various premiers of the Canadian provinces unanimously threw their weight behind the idea.
The only problem? There is no national epidemic of missing or murdered aboriginal women in Canada. Or at the very least, this exceedingly specific worry is not born out by any exceedingly specific data.
According to RCMP statistics, the percentage of female Canadian murder victims possessing aboriginal ancestry has remained largely constant over the last three decades, at around 14%. While this figure is extraordinarily high given that aboriginal women only comprise about 4% of the country’s female population, such victim overrepresentation is no less true of aboriginal men, whose disproportionate murder rate is an even larger statistical outlier (17%). Likewise, since most aboriginal murder victims die at the hands of other aboriginals — usually family, friends, or lovers — such high victim rates largely reflect the fact that aboriginals of both genders simply murder more, period.
problem?
Murdered Aboriginal Women and the Politics of Moral Panic » J.J. McCullough » Archive
Canada is currently in the midst of something of a fashionable fluster over the plight of “missing and murdered indigenous women,” a five-word phrase that’s become a ubiquitous part of the Canadian socio-political vocabulary, complete with its own hashtag. There now exists an archipelago of institutions devoted to the #MMIW cause, which presents itself as one of modern Canada’s darkest crises. The common refrain that the federal government has an obligation to commission a report on the phenomenon reached a fevered pitch this week as the various premiers of the Canadian provinces unanimously threw their weight behind the idea.
The only problem? There is no national epidemic of missing or murdered aboriginal women in Canada. Or at the very least, this exceedingly specific worry is not born out by any exceedingly specific data.
According to RCMP statistics, the percentage of female Canadian murder victims possessing aboriginal ancestry has remained largely constant over the last three decades, at around 14%. While this figure is extraordinarily high given that aboriginal women only comprise about 4% of the country’s female population, such victim overrepresentation is no less true of aboriginal men, whose disproportionate murder rate is an even larger statistical outlier (17%). Likewise, since most aboriginal murder victims die at the hands of other aboriginals — usually family, friends, or lovers — such high victim rates largely reflect the fact that aboriginals of both genders simply murder more, period.
problem?
Murdered Aboriginal Women and the Politics of Moral Panic » J.J. McCullough » Archive
What was thye unemployment rate in the dirty 30's. A 'healthy economy' can survive 80% unemployment. one meal a day is lots when the calories you burn are cut way down. The guy is Sask in the winter might only get hungry once every two days, however in the spring and fall he needs that same meal every 2 hours.
What would happen if the Rez and the homeless in the desolate big cities came up with a similar plan and the citizens survived, quite nicely in that it would be clear that there was an intention stumbling campaign going on earlier.
If they BC town is for sale how much for Detroit and the surrounding area. Pull in some big *** dustless grinders and the reclaimed area is a fish processing area for the Lakes after they see extensive remodeling where the fingerlings coming in off Thunder Bay swim into the factories that far down stream. Lets call it 5 Fishes & Co. just to cause eyebrows to lift a tad. lol The GOM is in need of evacuation and they are already water people, this is just a bit colder.
Those of us who have lived on reserve know that the godawful lifestyle is poison. Nothing more needs to be said and we need no BS from flossie or turdeau.
They are a visible minority, they are not the only ones in that sort of plight, even in Canada.
The past is worth visiting as far as it gives a list of things that didn't work. A few years back I would have suggested an international passport for everybody just so they could get a look at the scope of things involved. Google Maps beans the visuals are available and there must be some virtual bars around. Getting off the Rez and climbing up the social latter to upper middle class is not a reality, so being 'special' means there might be something that brings the outside world to the Rez in a way that results in the Bands being their own business playing by the rules after exploiting as many loopholes as possible. Taxes from corporations are more valuable as it shows the company is renewable rather than being exploitative.
The First Nations should exploit it's own heritage. If they could bottle it literally those are instant profits and the Rez Store has the money stay local. Arrive for the weekend empty handed and leave with the frame almost on the ground. Most good via on-line purchase at 60% off and from the international warehouse to the door of the fledgling. Tonto level if you would.
The past is worth visiting as far as it gives a list of things that didn't work. A few years back I would have suggested an international passport for everybody just so they could get a look at the scope of things involved. Google Maps beans the visuals are available and there must be some virtual bars around. Getting off the Rez and climbing up the social latter to upper middle class is not a reality, so being 'special' means there might be something that brings the outside world to the Rez in a way that results in the Bands being their own business playing by the rules after exploiting as many loopholes as possible. Taxes from corporations are more valuable as it shows the company is renewable rather than being exploitative.
The First Nations should exploit it's own heritage. If they could bottle it literally those are instant profits and the Rez Store has the money stay local. Arrive for the weekend empty handed and leave with the frame almost on the ground. Most good via on-line purchase at 60% off and from the international warehouse to the door of the fledgling. Tonto level if you would.
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The ideological roots of Stephen Harper’s vendetta against sociology
Stephen Harper really seems to have it out for sociology. In 2013, in response to an alleged plot against a VIA train, Harper remarked that we should not “commit sociology,” but pursue an anti-crime approach. And last week, in response to the death of Tina Fontaine, Harper argued that an inquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women is not needed, because this is not a “ sociological phenomenon ” but simply a series of individual crimes.
Of course, not only is all crime a sociological phenomenon , but also without a broader sociological analysis we can’t begin to understand why the rates of missing and murdered indigenous women are tragically high compared to non-indigenous women. Furthermore, it’s clear that if rates of violence against non-indigenous women climbed as high as those of indigenous women, this government (even with its woeful record on women’s issues) would be more likely to announce not only a public inquiry but a full-scale national strategy. (This double-standard in how we value human lives is what sociologists call “racism.”)
Harper’s two disparaging comments about sociology, however, also need to be understood alongside his gutting of the long-form census in 2010. It is widely accepted that this action fundamentally undermined Canada’s ability to understand its own demographics, long-term social trends, and inequalities — in short, its sociology.
So what does Harper have against sociology? First, Harper is clearly trumpeting a standard component of neo-liberal ideology: that there are no social phenomena, only individual incidents. (This ideology traces back to Margaret Thatcher’s famous claim that “there is no such thing as society.”) Neo-liberalism paints all social problems as individual problems. The benefit of this for those who share Harper’s agenda, of course, is that if there are no social problems or solutions, then there is little need for government. Individuals are solely responsible for the problems they face.
This ideology is so seductive not only because it radically simplifies our world, but also because it mirrors the two social institutions neo-liberals actually believe in — the “free” market and law and order. Everything is reduced to either a simplistic market transaction or a criminal case. In the former, you either have the money to buy stuff, or you don’t and it’s up to you to get more. In the latter, a lone individual is personally responsible for a crime and is punished for it. Easy peasy. No sociology needed.
But there’s yet another reason this ideology is so hostile toward the kind of sociological analysis done by Statistics Canada, public inquiries and the like. And that has to do with the type of injustices we can even conceive of, or consider tackling, as a society.
You see, sociologists often differentiate between “personal injustices” and “systemic” or “structural injustices.” Personal injustices can be traced back to concrete actions of particular individuals (perpetrators). These actions are often wilful, and have a relatively isolated victim.
Structural injustices, on the other hand, are produced by a social structure or system. They are often hard to trace back to the actions of specific individuals, are usually not explicitly intended by anyone, and have collective, rather than isolated, victims. Structural injustices are a result of the unintended actions of many individuals participating in a social system together, usually without knowing what each other is doing. Whereas personal injustices are traced back to the harmful actions (or inactions) of individuals, structural injustices are identified by differential societal outcomes among groups. Sociologists call these “social inequalities.”
And therein lies the rub. Perhaps the key difference between personal and structural injustices is that the latter are only clearly identifiable through macro-level societal analysis — that is, sociology. This is because a) there are no clear perpetrators with whom to identify the injustice and assign responsibility; and b) while structural injustices do generate concrete harms and victims, we often only learn about the collective nature of the injustice through statistical inquiry, or by identifying social/demographic patterns over time.
What should be clear, then, is that Harper’s seemingly bizarre vendetta against sociology is actually an ideological attempt to prevent Canadian society from being able to identify, and tackle, its structural injustices. Without large-scale sociological analyses, we can’t recognize the pervasive, entrenched social inequalities that these analyses reveal. And because structural injustices are actually generated by our social systems, both their causes and solutions are social.
Thus, when we paint all social problems as individual problems with individual solutions, we also lose any sense of the social responsibility, rather than personal responsibility, that we need to address them.
The payoff in all this for Harper and other neo-liberals is that the kinds of injustices this ideology is particularly good at creating are precisely structural injustices. Indeed, one of neo-liberalism’s greatest capacities is to generate systemic inequalities that are not easily identifiable, in fact are rather difficult to discern, on the level of personal interactions and isolated cases. Harper’s attack on sociology, then, should be viewed not only as an attempt to further his ideology, but to cover the social damage that is left in its wake.
The ideological roots of Stephen Harper’s vendetta against sociology
Stephen Harper really seems to have it out for sociology. In 2013, in response to an alleged plot against a VIA train, Harper remarked that we should not “commit sociology,” but pursue an anti-crime approach. And last week, in response to the death of Tina Fontaine, Harper argued that an inquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women is not needed, because this is not a “ sociological phenomenon ” but simply a series of individual crimes.
Of course, not only is all crime a sociological phenomenon , but also without a broader sociological analysis we can’t begin to understand why the rates of missing and murdered indigenous women are tragically high compared to non-indigenous women. Furthermore, it’s clear that if rates of violence against non-indigenous women climbed as high as those of indigenous women, this government (even with its woeful record on women’s issues) would be more likely to announce not only a public inquiry but a full-scale national strategy. (This double-standard in how we value human lives is what sociologists call “racism.”)
Harper’s two disparaging comments about sociology, however, also need to be understood alongside his gutting of the long-form census in 2010. It is widely accepted that this action fundamentally undermined Canada’s ability to understand its own demographics, long-term social trends, and inequalities — in short, its sociology.
So what does Harper have against sociology? First, Harper is clearly trumpeting a standard component of neo-liberal ideology: that there are no social phenomena, only individual incidents. (This ideology traces back to Margaret Thatcher’s famous claim that “there is no such thing as society.”) Neo-liberalism paints all social problems as individual problems. The benefit of this for those who share Harper’s agenda, of course, is that if there are no social problems or solutions, then there is little need for government. Individuals are solely responsible for the problems they face.
This ideology is so seductive not only because it radically simplifies our world, but also because it mirrors the two social institutions neo-liberals actually believe in — the “free” market and law and order. Everything is reduced to either a simplistic market transaction or a criminal case. In the former, you either have the money to buy stuff, or you don’t and it’s up to you to get more. In the latter, a lone individual is personally responsible for a crime and is punished for it. Easy peasy. No sociology needed.
But there’s yet another reason this ideology is so hostile toward the kind of sociological analysis done by Statistics Canada, public inquiries and the like. And that has to do with the type of injustices we can even conceive of, or consider tackling, as a society.
You see, sociologists often differentiate between “personal injustices” and “systemic” or “structural injustices.” Personal injustices can be traced back to concrete actions of particular individuals (perpetrators). These actions are often wilful, and have a relatively isolated victim.
Structural injustices, on the other hand, are produced by a social structure or system. They are often hard to trace back to the actions of specific individuals, are usually not explicitly intended by anyone, and have collective, rather than isolated, victims. Structural injustices are a result of the unintended actions of many individuals participating in a social system together, usually without knowing what each other is doing. Whereas personal injustices are traced back to the harmful actions (or inactions) of individuals, structural injustices are identified by differential societal outcomes among groups. Sociologists call these “social inequalities.”
And therein lies the rub. Perhaps the key difference between personal and structural injustices is that the latter are only clearly identifiable through macro-level societal analysis — that is, sociology. This is because a) there are no clear perpetrators with whom to identify the injustice and assign responsibility; and b) while structural injustices do generate concrete harms and victims, we often only learn about the collective nature of the injustice through statistical inquiry, or by identifying social/demographic patterns over time.
What should be clear, then, is that Harper’s seemingly bizarre vendetta against sociology is actually an ideological attempt to prevent Canadian society from being able to identify, and tackle, its structural injustices. Without large-scale sociological analyses, we can’t recognize the pervasive, entrenched social inequalities that these analyses reveal. And because structural injustices are actually generated by our social systems, both their causes and solutions are social.
Thus, when we paint all social problems as individual problems with individual solutions, we also lose any sense of the social responsibility, rather than personal responsibility, that we need to address them.
The payoff in all this for Harper and other neo-liberals is that the kinds of injustices this ideology is particularly good at creating are precisely structural injustices. Indeed, one of neo-liberalism’s greatest capacities is to generate systemic inequalities that are not easily identifiable, in fact are rather difficult to discern, on the level of personal interactions and isolated cases. Harper’s attack on sociology, then, should be viewed not only as an attempt to further his ideology, but to cover the social damage that is left in its wake.
The ideological roots of Stephen Harper’s vendetta against sociology
It only adds a delay into any investigation and the steps decided on the catch the killers would be well known to anybody that is part of John Que public. Poof and it just helps that group come up with the means to escape detection for a long time. The best that can be done is to get the children out of their reach. The safest place for anybody should with family. In a normal situation that would sometime before the existence of reservations and probably before 1500. Feeding them alcohol achieved it's intended goal back when the furs trade had come to a close and phase two of their annihilation was about to began. Take away their food.
Last important news I saw was the close of a court case that was 20 years long and the Lawyers netted some $200M (for the BAR), . . . even with the judgment on your side these would come as historical items as the original applicants would be dead of old age. The court process has been trimmed just this year as far as how fast events go after the original steps have been done in a process that is well under 3 months if all parties are agreeing as much as possible, something the Court looks on in a favorable light. Even using all the last day filing tactics 6 months and the questions can begin. That is now possible via e-mail and all of that can be submitted as evidence before the first 'recorded' meeting takes place. Not all opponents will take advantage of the 'free service the court recognizes' compared to the $10,000 3 day event. That point hasn't been covered yet as far as I know.
Leading to this, why not use UN documents to start a persecution case at the UN?
Anyway this is the part of the new rules that covers the supplemental evidence that can be available to all parties even though it was not part of the original package of 'recognized items'.
Subsequent disclosure of records
5.10 If, after a party has served an affidavit of records on other parties, the first
party finds, creates or obtains control of a relevant and material record not
previously disclosed, the first party must
(a) immediately give notice of it to each of the other parties,
(b) on written request and on payment of reasonable copying expenses,
supply each of the other parties with a copy of it, and
(c) prior to scheduling a date for trial, serve a supplementary affidavit of
records on each of the other parties.
Not sure if it would make a 20yr treaty case something that is 5 years long but the $198M the legal system gets could be reduced by that much and the paperwork done for the $2M that is missing. (or it is spent on the ones that have a complaint as a common way used that , smooths things over as best as possible) So far the legal process has been followed and the end has been reached so the people affected would be the ones living on the Rez and the ones off in the cities would be examples that integration into the 'mainstream way of life' isn't going so good for either side. A lot of it has to do with booze, booze the the corporations off the Rez make money at and the spin off industry would be medical and legal costs that happen while using that product. That is a known fact for several 100 years yet the taps keep flowing, I assume the thinking is that they will become 'immune' to it like the Irish and the Scots and the Germans are immune to booze as evidence in the modern world. Perhaps the Rez Pop should be 0.04% or whatever stops it from icing up in a snowbank. Drink the 24 that is expected in town but still be able to see the door. Any decent supper scene from the Vikings is not any worse that firewater making an appearance in the American West. In the American West the people had a list of drugs that were just as powerful but without the insanity. If we give their Medicine Men the ones that are already classified as 'insane' (slightly defective ) could a trip to the Smoke House reduce his anti-social behaviors.
The Elders need a trip in a VR machine that is as portable as his current arm chair but the F-18 ride through the Grand Canyon (or some other site within 200mi of his current location) or a hot air balloon over his house and then an 'office' that rivals Moscow's version used in the air crash. As an aid to firefighting and keeping track of 'the herds' would replace the screens that would let somebody in town track their kids by using the traffic cams, automatically. Prevention is never going to eliminate the events, the criminals knowing that tracking is very effective and the only qualification that needs to be shown is somebody caring enough to 'join a club or start a club based on the victims file number. (to prevent stalking)
Perhaps the local corner-stores can run a local bulletin board and ads and such can be put in via the touchscreen or via a phone Users would decide what is on the front-page and snooping software would feed it all back to the archives. It would help the innocent show he was someplace at a certain time when the crime was a long way away. Who wouldn't love big sister in that case?
Last important news I saw was the close of a court case that was 20 years long and the Lawyers netted some $200M (for the BAR), . . . even with the judgment on your side these would come as historical items as the original applicants would be dead of old age. The court process has been trimmed just this year as far as how fast events go after the original steps have been done in a process that is well under 3 months if all parties are agreeing as much as possible, something the Court looks on in a favorable light. Even using all the last day filing tactics 6 months and the questions can begin. That is now possible via e-mail and all of that can be submitted as evidence before the first 'recorded' meeting takes place. Not all opponents will take advantage of the 'free service the court recognizes' compared to the $10,000 3 day event. That point hasn't been covered yet as far as I know.
Leading to this, why not use UN documents to start a persecution case at the UN?
Anyway this is the part of the new rules that covers the supplemental evidence that can be available to all parties even though it was not part of the original package of 'recognized items'.
Subsequent disclosure of records
5.10 If, after a party has served an affidavit of records on other parties, the first
party finds, creates or obtains control of a relevant and material record not
previously disclosed, the first party must
(a) immediately give notice of it to each of the other parties,
(b) on written request and on payment of reasonable copying expenses,
supply each of the other parties with a copy of it, and
(c) prior to scheduling a date for trial, serve a supplementary affidavit of
records on each of the other parties.
Not sure if it would make a 20yr treaty case something that is 5 years long but the $198M the legal system gets could be reduced by that much and the paperwork done for the $2M that is missing. (or it is spent on the ones that have a complaint as a common way used that , smooths things over as best as possible) So far the legal process has been followed and the end has been reached so the people affected would be the ones living on the Rez and the ones off in the cities would be examples that integration into the 'mainstream way of life' isn't going so good for either side. A lot of it has to do with booze, booze the the corporations off the Rez make money at and the spin off industry would be medical and legal costs that happen while using that product. That is a known fact for several 100 years yet the taps keep flowing, I assume the thinking is that they will become 'immune' to it like the Irish and the Scots and the Germans are immune to booze as evidence in the modern world. Perhaps the Rez Pop should be 0.04% or whatever stops it from icing up in a snowbank. Drink the 24 that is expected in town but still be able to see the door. Any decent supper scene from the Vikings is not any worse that firewater making an appearance in the American West. In the American West the people had a list of drugs that were just as powerful but without the insanity. If we give their Medicine Men the ones that are already classified as 'insane' (slightly defective ) could a trip to the Smoke House reduce his anti-social behaviors.
The Elders need a trip in a VR machine that is as portable as his current arm chair but the F-18 ride through the Grand Canyon (or some other site within 200mi of his current location) or a hot air balloon over his house and then an 'office' that rivals Moscow's version used in the air crash. As an aid to firefighting and keeping track of 'the herds' would replace the screens that would let somebody in town track their kids by using the traffic cams, automatically. Prevention is never going to eliminate the events, the criminals knowing that tracking is very effective and the only qualification that needs to be shown is somebody caring enough to 'join a club or start a club based on the victims file number. (to prevent stalking)
Perhaps the local corner-stores can run a local bulletin board and ads and such can be put in via the touchscreen or via a phone Users would decide what is on the front-page and snooping software would feed it all back to the archives. It would help the innocent show he was someplace at a certain time when the crime was a long way away. Who wouldn't love big sister in that case?