WTC Deaths Apparently justified according to Israeli Logic

humanbeing

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You are on the losing side of something, therefore it doesn't make sense to you?

WTF?!

Does not compute...

Regards,

Loser on the losing side, apparently
 

Colpy

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Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Sure you will. Good luck with your losing fight! If you did do anything useful you would have to find new enemies. Remember Communism?

Sure do.

You lost!

Didn't know it was a war -- it was an idea that the United States of Hypocrisy was adverse to. Remember, it's called freedom of ideas?

Yeah, and you lost.

Glad you think that the shooting down of alternative econmic ideas is a good thing. It's kind of tyranical, no?

Sorry, but Soviet communism imploded, it was not destroyed from the outside, it failed.

The very philosophy of communism is the antithesis of human nature.

"From each according to his abilities" means EVERYBODY shirks, "to each according to his needs" means the pwerful get everything.

The Russians used to describe the system as "We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us"

Not that I am surprized that you would defend a completely discredited system...........
 

Caleb-Dain Matton

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Colpy said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Sure you will. Good luck with your losing fight! If you did do anything useful you would have to find new enemies. Remember Communism?

Sure do.

You lost!

Didn't know it was a war -- it was an idea that the United States of Hypocrisy was adverse to. Remember, it's called freedom of ideas?

Yeah, and you lost.

Glad you think that the shooting down of alternative econmic ideas is a good thing. It's kind of tyranical, no?

Sorry, but Soviet communism imploded, it was not destroyed from the outside, it failed.

The very philosophy of communism is the antithesis of human nature.

"From each according to his abilities" means EVERYBODY shirks, "to each according to his needs" means the pwerful get everything.

The Russians used to describe the system as "We pretend to work, they pretend to pay us"

Not that I am surprized that you would defend a completely discredited system...........

Jesus Christ was the first socialist -- And you say its the antithesis of human nature??
 

Colpy

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Ah, C-D M, BIG difference between Soviet communism and a system that has a social conscience, such as our own.

And what in the world makes you say Jesus Christ was the first socialist?
 

gc

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Colpy said:
Ah, C-D M, BIG difference between Soviet communism and a system that has a social conscience, such as our own.

And what in the world makes you say Jesus Christ was the first socialist?

I would say that Jesus was a socialist (depending on your definition of socialism)...maybe not the first socialist but definately a socialist. I can probably find many quotes from the bible to back that up, but I'll stick with one in particular:

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (Matthew 19:24).
 

Caleb-Dain Matton

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Colpy said:
Ah, C-D M, BIG difference between Soviet communism and a system that has a social conscience, such as our own.

And what in the world makes you say Jesus Christ was the first socialist?

You tell me then Colpy. Was Jesus's ideas closer to that of socialism or capitalism?
 

Colpy

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Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Colpy said:
Ah, C-D M, BIG difference between Soviet communism and a system that has a social conscience, such as our own.

And what in the world makes you say Jesus Christ was the first socialist?

You tell me then Colpy. Was Jesus's ideas closer to that of socialism or capitalism?

I don't know the answer.

I'm not sure the question is relevant. The philosophies expressed by Christ were, as far as I know, much more pertinent in a personal sense, not a political one.

He did attack the money changers, but that was for defiling the temple.

He was not in any sense a political revolutionary, even though living under Roman occupation.

I personally think political theory was beneath him.
 

Just the Facts

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Colpy said:
I'm not sure the question is relevant. The philosophies expressed by Christ were, as far as I know, much more pertinent in a personal sense, not a political one.

I think you're exactly right...give unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
 

Just the Facts

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Re: WTC Deaths Apparently justified according to Israeli Log

Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Sure you will. Good luck with your losing fight! If you did do anything useful you would have to find new enemies. Remember Communism?

Sure do.

You lost!

Didn't know it was a war -- it was an idea that the United States of Hypocrisy was adverse to. Remember, it's called freedom of ideas?

You've obviously never met anyone who lived in an Eastern Bloc country between 1945 and 1985. Freedom of ideas.. :D 8O :? :) :( 8) :lol: :eek:

Just don't know what to say to that. You're darn tootin' it was a war. A cold one, but very much a war. Hot in some places. MILLIONS died...for daring to express freedom of ideas...at the hands of communists.
 

I think not

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Re: WTC Deaths Apparently justified according to Israeli Log

Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Sure you will. Good luck with your losing fight! If you did do anything useful you would have to find new enemies. Remember Communism?

Sure do.

You lost!

Didn't know it was a war -- it was an idea that the United States of Hypocrisy was adverse to. Remember, it's called freedom of ideas?

You should never use the word freedom, communists are incapable of grasping the concept. It is only "freedom" when it suits their vision of the world, everything else in their view should be done away with.

So why are you babbling aboot something you have no idea about?

Every once and a while we get a communist around here to allegedly "enlighten" the rest of us. I have to tell you, you do a piss poor job of it. At least others had some critical thought, they actually came up with ideas that made sense.

Try a little better. :D
 

Logic 7

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I think not said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Toro said:
Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Sure you will. Good luck with your losing fight! If you did do anything useful you would have to find new enemies. Remember Communism?

Sure do.

You lost!

Didn't know it was a war -- it was an idea that the United States of Hypocrisy was adverse to. Remember, it's called freedom of ideas?

You should never use the word freedom, communists are incapable of grasping the concept. It is only "freedom" when it suits their vision of the world, everything else in their view should be done away with.

So why are you babbling aboot something you have no idea about?

Every once and a while we get a communist around here to allegedly "enlighten" the rest of us. I have to tell you, you do a piss poor job of it. At least others had some critical thought, they actually came up with ideas that made sense.

Try a little better. :D


Communist as we knew it knows absotly nothing about freedom, i guess it is the same with citizens from the united states, otherwise they will have never accepted "patriot act" and wiretapping from their governement.
 

para-dice

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I would prefer an egalitarian society with strong incentives built in to encourage betterment of society, than a capitalist system which rewards greed and fosters a priveldged class system.

Did you know that the OECD says that America has the "lowest rates of social mobility in the Western hemisphere" ? What this means is simplistically, if you are born rich, you die rich, born poor die poor.

The increasing social inequities in the US and the resultant class warfare should be a warning for all Canadians who support right wing gov't for this country.

Ofcourse I am not for a communist system - there needs to be individual awards to reward those people. It just that right now we reward specualation and the accumulation of more individual wealth - with no corollary benefits to society. To wit:

My father hasn't built a single thing. He like 90% of millionaires has made their wealth through land specualtion, which offers little benefit to society.

No I don't wnat a socialist society either, where laziness is rewarded. I think our society is just about right. I just think there needs to be some sort of cap on wealth accumulation and/or pay. Making over $1 million/yr is ridiculous.

- my 2 cents
 

I think not

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Logic 7 said:
Communist as we knew it knows absotly nothing about freedom, i guess it is the same with citizens from the united states, otherwise they will have never accepted "patriot act" and wiretapping from their governement.

Oh really really, tell us what you know about the Patriot Act and the wiretapping. I'm all ears.
 

Daz_Hockey

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ITN, PARA-DICE, LOGIC ETC.....

Freedom is a very tricky subject best handled with asbestos gloves...

*Freedom means many things to many differing people, it's like asking how long is a peice of string?....it depends on your point of view.

The freedoms that G W Bush fights for are certainly different from the freedom of the people of the former soviet blok or those in the middle east, or indeed the freedoms in my very own Great Britain.

But as long as we all understand that none of us are "right" and none of us are "wrong" we'll get on swimmingly :).
 

para-dice

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Indeed. And the more we fuk with them, with our extremists, the more "the other guys" will hit back.

What did Gandhi say about teh eye?


BTW I like swimming, used to be a pretty good diver. :p
 

Logic 7

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I think not said:
Logic 7 said:
Communist as we knew it knows absotly nothing about freedom, i guess it is the same with citizens from the united states, otherwise they will have never accepted "patriot act" and wiretapping from their governement.

Oh really really, tell us what you know about the Patriot Act and the wiretapping. I'm all ears.


Enough to realize it is about stealing freedom from citizen , not for the war on terror.
 

Logic 7

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Daz_Hockey said:
ITN, PARA-DICE, LOGIC ETC.....

Freedom is a very tricky subject best handled with asbestos gloves...

*Freedom means many things to many differing people, it's like asking how long is a peice of string?....it depends on your point of view.

The freedoms that G W Bush fights for are certainly different from the freedom of the people of the former soviet blok or those in the middle east, or indeed the freedoms in my very own Great Britain.

But as long as we all understand that none of us are "right" and none of us are "wrong" we'll get on swimmingly :).



Well, the freedom that gw bush fights isnt the same as what freedom really means.