If Vladimir keeps this up, the only people attending the Sochi Olympics will be members of the politburo.
Wow, Putin is dragging Russia into the dark ages.
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Oh I see, if someone disagrees with you, you start to sling insults.. humm mature.
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Good grief... and conversion of Russia from the Soviet system to a free-market economy was supposed to make things better?
I guess it confirms something a professor of Slavic Languages told me once.
The Cold War was still happening, and he'd spent time over there studying, and he said, "A lot of atrocities blamed on Russia for being Bolshevik are not a result of their Communism. A lot of that stuff happens simply because they're Russian."
I'm not adopted, but I know people that are and they support gay couples adopting children. So if we combine your opinion with their opinion, we aren't left with much more knowledge of the situation. People who are adopted disagree, so your suggestion that we ask adoptees what they feel about it is in reality quite stupid.
eh, the adoptees are the ones effected .. you don't think their opinion is not important??
It's like abortion, women are to emotional.. let men make the decision.. :roll:
My mother was a drunken sl*t who would f*ck anybody who would buy her a drink. One of the drink-buyers was my father. That's all I know about him. I was raised (insofar as I was raised at all) by my grandmother.
You claiming to be a better man than me, Mr. Traditional-2.3 Kids-1.3 Cars-2.2 Pets-Home?
Which adoptee's opinions count? She's telling you she knows other adoptees who disagree with you. So which ones get to decide?
Let's consider the opinion of the adoptees. Well, you're the only one here, so let's ask you. Would you like to be adopted by a gay couple? You already answered, but let's consider the implications.
If you're an adult the point is moot. You're not being adopted, and so when you expressed your opinion earlier, it was just a stupid waste of time. Within your own logic of asking the adoptee, it wouldn't make sense to ask you. Your claim to authority on the matter fails.
But if you're a child, then that probably explains a lot.
Yeah yeah, we've all read your archaic, draconian, and ignorant opinion several times over.
Some choice yes, but not completely. It's kind of like red hair, it can be altered but only cosmetically and there are varying degrees of red.
Oh, I see, dodging the post means you can't ignore a slur and stick to debate. At this point it looks as if my comment about stupidity is more observation than insult.
What's funny about that?
This is a tad off-topic, but... compared to some other cultures, we over-complicate the issue of adoption.
If you want to see adoption taken to an extreme, consider what Australian Aboriginees used to do. They believed there were 13 personality type - 13 "natures" - and they assigned an animal-name to each of those natures (the "kangaroo people", the "koala people", etc.)
They believed around the age of 3-4 a person's type would begin to express itself (which is interesting, because it's around that age that the limbic system stops imprinting, such that it's at that point a person's core personality is set, so they were on to something), and so they'd have an annual grand pow-wow kind'a thing, where people from all the regional tribes and bands would get together and swap kids into bands of their type. They believed koalas should be rasied by koalas, kangaroos by kangaroos, etc.
Something tells me that in a system like that, pondering the orientation of the adopters would have been one of the last things on the parent's mind.
If you want to see adoption taken to an extreme, consider what Australian Aboriginees used to do. They believed there were 13 personality type - 13 "natures" - and they assigned an animal-name to each of those natures (the "kangaroo people", the "koala people", etc.)
They believed around the age of 3-4 a person's type would begin to express itself (which is interesting, because it's around that age that the limbic system stops imprinting, such that it's at that point a person's core personality is set, so they were on to something), and so they'd have an annual grand pow-wow kind'a thing, where people from all the regional tribes and bands would get together and swap kids into bands of their type. They believed koalas should be rasied by koalas, kangaroos by kangaroos, etc.
Something tells me that in a system like that, pondering the orientation of the adopters would have been one of the last things on the parent's mind.
We should never allow adoption of a child by people whose totem spirits are not the same as the child's totem spirits! Better that the children starve!
Jeeezez. You seem to be following down the same path as Coldstream. Is your opinion really that low of women that you really don't think women can think as well as feel? HOLY F'K!
Sounds similar to wifey's Anishinaabe clan, except the kids were still familial but "career-wise" they followed their natures. That's why some kids from a teaching clan could be also a member of a hunting clan and stuff like that. Kids were generally raised by their grandparents while the parents were out and about doing clan business. And grandparents were generally better equipped to figure out what kids' personalities were. Seems a bit complicated but it isn't really.
Yep.
Actually, if you go far back enough in European history, it used to working something like that there too. It evolved into the Apprentice System in the Middle Ages.
In any case, I still think we're over-complicating the process of adoption. Adoption is as normal for humans as fighting and dying. We evolved as hunter-gatherers, who'd war with each other, without antibiotics, in environments replete with malaria, typhus, cholera, and dysentery.
Every day someone's parents were getting killed or dying from a disease, and every day the kids would get picked up by someone... maybe an aunt or uncle, maybe grandparents, maybe the family of your best friend, maybe a stranger where somehow you just knew there was an understooding, or maybe you'd be adopted by the same warriors who just killed your parents.
The fact that we naturally adopt is one of the things enabling us to have survived and become the planet's dominant species.
So... I dunno... is Putin being Putin, or is he being Russian?
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As we have yours LG. :roll:.. but i feel compelled to shed some light on the darker cellars of CC 'conventional truths'.. no matter how dim my lamp.
Ah, sorry, but I don't have much for archaic, draconian ideas even if I may be ignorant in some things.As we have yours LG. :roll:.. but i feel compelled to shed some light on the darker cellars of CC 'conventional truths'.. no matter how dim my lamp.
And you keep shedding the same dim light on the same personal "truths" with pretty redundant consistency without even an infinitesimally minute bit of evidence. I'm not ignorant of that. Also not ignorant of the fact that you ignore evidence if it doesn't cuddle up to your opinions (oops sorry, your "truths").
ANyway, I agree that Russia seems to be goin backwards. What's next, persecuting redheads and southpaws? Sure looks to me as if the country's fighting an imaginary symptom and ignoring the causes of its woes.
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Hmm... if you want to really mess up their heads, get some accredited social-psychologists to mock up some research that gets published in a Russian journal stating that chronic addiction to vodka leads to homosexuality and a shortened life-span.
The deep state has effectively taken over Russia, much in the same way it controls Turkey.
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