World Religions

[El Barto]

as One that doesn't believe in the concept of GOD
I am left to say after reading this thread ................oh God!
The ignorance of religion that believes that anything outside of their faith is ignorant :roll:
Strange also as how those that stray outside of their faith that come back as born again always seem to be twice as arrogant and more preachy than a priest :roll:

Social logic isn't enough?
There's no outside force that will punish you . You mostly get what you put out there.
Anything that preaches out of fear is nothing more than scare tactics for obedience.

 

[Cliffy]

El Barto

Anything that preaches out of fear is nothing more than scare tactics for obedience.

Ain't that what I said?

The only law is "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" - Karma.
Or "You reap what you sow". Don't need gods or demons for that.

 

[El Barto]

El Barto

Anything that preaches out of fear is nothing more than scare tactics for obedience.

Ain't that what I said?

The only law is "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" - Karma.
Or "You reap what you sow". Don't need gods or demons for that.

put it this way .. I must agree with you then ;-)
It's hard to preach or teach common sense.
Or how to think for one self.
That would be scary and hard to control for any establishment.

 

[Cliffy]

put it this way .. I must agree with you then ;-)
It's hard to preach or teach common sense.
Or how to think for one self.
That would be scary and hard to control for any establishment.

Ah, and that would be why I'm an anarchist - we don't need establishments (unless they serve good food and beer).

 

[El Barto]

The fact that I don't believe that Jesus died on the cross and was ressurected must make me an antichrist 8O
I'm no Devil
just Impish on the side ;-)

 

[SirJosephPorter]

The fact that I don't believe that Jesus died on the cross and was ressurected must make me an antichrist 8O
I'm no Devil
just Impish on the side ;-)

I have no problem believing that Jesus died on the cross. Crucifixion was the standard method of execution in those days. So it does not strain credulity to believe that Jesus dies on the cross.

As to his being resurrected, well that is a different story (and a great story).

 

[El Barto]

I have no problem believing that Jesus died on the cross. Crucifixion was the standard method of execution in those days. So it does not strain credulity to believe that Jesus dies on the cross.

As to his being resurrected, well that is a different story (and a great story).

It would fit the story better . taking away the so called miracles.
He was not longer than the afternoon on the cross.

 

[In Between Man]

It would fit the story better . taking away the so called miracles.
He was not longer than the afternoon on the cross.

Those so called miracles happened everywhere Jesus went. It happened because the one receiving the miracle believed for it. Instead of doubting they believed God was good, capable of healing, and most importantly willing to heal.

Jesus said after healing someone: "It is done according to your faith."

 

[El Barto]

actually no
many of the hebrew rituals were symbolic
like turning water into wine , that was a metaphor .
Lazerus raising from the dead. He was being excommunicated.
the parting of the seas by Moses was a natural occuring thing as Napolean crossed exactly in that spot.
the 40 years in the desert thing was not at all that. Saying forty is like saying a few , a handful.

 

[L Gilbert]

Gods are unverifiable. IMO, they are indistinguishable from products of imaginations.
I'll add that using the Bible, Quran, Vedas as verification of gods is like using the movie "Star Wars" as verification of aliens.

 

[El Barto]

Gods are unverifiable. IMO, they are indistinguishable from products of imaginations.

On the flip side of that , the imagination can be a powerful thing

 

[L Gilbert]

Yup. "Star Wars" had a large effect on a lot of people, as has the "Quran", the "Bible", etc.

 

[El Barto]

don't forget the Beatles

 

[shadowshiv]

On the flip side of that , the imagination can be a powerful thing

Many civilizations have risen and subsequently fallen because of it.

 

[El Barto]

Many civilizations have risen and subsequently fallen because of it.

no , that would be the quest for power

 

[shadowshiv]

no , that would be the quest for power

Which is sparked by a person's imagination, or the desire of another person to quash it.

 

[El Barto]

Which is sparked by a person's imagination, or the desire of another person to quash it.

don't agree , tho I would correct what i said in my last post and add greed instead of power

 

[shadowshiv]

don't agree , tho I would correct what i said in my last post and add greed instead of power

Are you trying to quash my imagination, El Barto?:angryfire:

;-):lol:

 

[El Barto]

Are you trying to quash my imagination, El Barto?:angryfire:

;-):lol:

don't you have a thread to hump?
I'm pooped