Why The Towers Fell

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http://criticalthrash.com/terror/P1010017.JPG

what it should look like after a crash
http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/fdx1478/2.shtml
 

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Wow, goodthing that plane was going up hill when in that pic.

I wonder what would happen if it hit the top of the hill it's resting on, on it's way into the ground...

Oh ya, it would bounce and leave an untouched spot before it came back down. Kinda like what happened at the Pentagon. Only there was a Pentagon right where the plane came down.

I know this takes a lot of critical thought to collate, but it ain't that hard.
 

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Amazing how even the video you posted shows the top of the berm being hit. But you can't supply a photo of that area....

Oh ya, that would hurt your argument...

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You make a picture of it then stop winging...!!! if you got proof prove it, don't keep asking me to do YOUR work matey,was i there to take a picture no i wasnt, i can only use the ones given or do screen shot same as you ...!.so find me the picture you got or shut up.
 

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Wow, goodthing that plane was going up hill when in that pic.

I wonder what would happen if it hit the top of the hill it's resting on, on it's way into the ground...

Oh ya, it would bounce and leave an untouched spot before it came back down. Kinda like what happened at the Pentagon. Only there was a Pentagon right where the plane came down.

I know this takes a lot of critical thought to collate, but it ain't that hard.

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You make a picture of it then stop winging...!!! if you got proof prove it, don't keep asking me to do YOUR work matey,was i there to take a picture no i wasnt, i can only use the ones given or do screen shot same as you ...!.so find me the picture you got or shut up.
Again, I'm not the one making the claim, you are and you are using bullshyte pic's to support your delusions. If you want me to believe a missile hit the Penatgon, show me the top of the berm.

Of course it is, you can't prove me wrong, so it must be 'bollocks'. Which I'm sure your're on a steady diet of.;-)
 

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This is all ridiculous.
We have to be logical here and you are all going about it ass backwards.

We have to ask ourselves why the towers did NOT fall--and work backwards from that.
The towers did not fall.
Therefore no planes crashed into the towers.
THerefore everythings's cool.
End of story

This works for every bs conspiracy theory.

Why was president Kennedy NOT killed?
Because the CIA did not have him killed

You see how it all starts to make sense here?
 

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That's a matter of perception, not fact.

I never said it was fact but that the fact is that if most people believe something is true then it probably is. That doesn't always work, like with god and so forth but generally it is true.

I would agree, I have long held the belief that events such as then ones you have sighted, were allowed to happen, to justify military acts.

That is exactly my opinion too.

Note my choice of words...'allowed to happen'. Not made to happen, not participated in. But the foreknowledge thereof and subsequent complicity, in allowing to take place.

I don't know. I have watched magic tricks that fooled me. Just because something looks impossible doesn't mean it is. That being said though it does seem very improbable. But so does sawing a woman in half and I've seen people do that.

But the absurdity of the notion, that the WTC was a controlled demolition, is behold belief.

I really wouldn't know. I'm no expert. I do remember watching them fall on TV and wondering why they would fall like that. I thought the top floors would partly slide off at worst. I used to weld and so I understand metallurgy enough that I knew fuel burning couldn't have weaken the metal enough for a collapse.

But when one sees a glaring falsehood, they should take steps to make known the truth. Which is based on fact, not supposition, assumption and innuendo.

I don't know about that. A lot of very qualified experts with massive reputations have questioned the events of 9/11. I think it is quite reasonable for us to too.

Again, perception...are you following me here?

Absolutely.

I was sure the towers fell because of controlled demolitions until someone convinced me otherwise. He had photos he took himself of building seven. That building was massively damaged and I hadn't realized that. His were the only photos I had seen that really showed it. Add to that that buildings are deliberately built to fall down in tight little heaps and I lost my certainty. Now I just don't know.

My tendency is to believe witnesses that were there; like the guy in the basement that saw explosions and rescued a bunch of people before the buildings even started to fall or people coming out that saw explosions. I tend to believe them more simply because they are like me so I doubt their motive less. They are just reporting what they saw or heard.
 

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Military Promotions

The September 11, 2001 attack saw the largest failure to protect the civilian population from attack in the nation's history. This failure is stunning given the awesome capabilities of the nation's air defense network.
General Richard Myers was acting head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9/11/01. He stated that he went into a meeting after the first tower was hit, and stayed there until just after the Pentagon was hit. Apparently his meeting with Senator Cleland was more important than the ongoing attack on the nation. Two days after the attack, Myers was asked some softball questions by the Senate Armed Services Committee, and promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
General Ralph Eberhart was in charge of NORAD on 9/11/01. NORAD's Cheyenne Mountain Operations Center maintains up-to-the-second monitoring of airspace over the entire nation. It would have easily tracked the unfolding attack from 8:20, when Flight 11 went off course, to 10:06, when Flight 93 crashed. Instead of dispatching interceptors from bases near the targets, or calling for intercepts from multiple bases, it chose a few far-away bases. Eberhart was promoted to head the new "Northern Command" established in October of 2002.

http://911review.com/coverup/promotions.html
 

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Evidence Destruction

A pattern of systematic destruction and disappearance of evidence runs throughout the official response to the 9/11/01 attack. All of the crime scenes were mopped up with systematic efficiency, while farce investigations provided cover. Such evidence destruction was only one part of an even larger feature of the crime: an evidence vacuum, wherein even the reasons for the disappearance of evidence remain hidden behind a wall of government unaccountability and official farces such as the Kean Commission.

Let's review what evidence remains missing in the black hole of the official version of 9/11/01. None of the following evidence is available to the public. Its very existence remains unknown, in most cases.
  • Airport lobby video showing alleged hijackers on the targeted flights.
  • Credible evidence tying bin Laden to the crime.
  • Recordings of air traffic controller communications with the flights.
  • Remains of any of the targeted planes.
  • Remains of the Twin Towers and Building 7.
  • Blueprints of the Twin Towers and Building 7.
  • The contents of the black boxes from any of the targeted planes.
  • Photographs documenting the crime scenes before they were disturbed.
 

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The Coverup

The cover-up of the reality behind 9/11/01 began immediately after the attack, and consisted of many different facets.
  • Military commanders were promoted after presiding over the largest failure in air defense since Pearl Harbor.
  • Evidence was systematically destroyed at all of the crime scenes.
  • FEMA's farcical investigations provided cover for the evidence destruction.
  • The Bush administration blocked a congressional inquiry into the attack for over 400 days. When a commission was finally assembled, President Bush named Henry Kissinger to chair it.
  • The "National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States" -- or Kean Commission, as it was commonly called, after former New Jersey governor Thomas Kean replaced Kissinger -- avoided questioning any of the key assumptions of the official story.
These are only some of the more obvious and concrete aspects of the cover-up evident in the behavior of high officials. A cover-up is also apparent in the way the official story was packaged and sold by the corporate and foundation-funded media. These media largely ignored challenges to the official story until 2004, when attacks in prominent publications started.
The involvement of large numbers of people in a cover-up of the crimes of 9/11/01 may be far less conspiratorial than it might at first seem. Actions on behalf of the cover-up may have diverse motivations. For example, officials may have been more inclined to unquestioningly follow orders in the wake of the attack. Top officials could be covering up for their failure to repel the attack, or for their being blackmailed by the attackers.
 

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911 Pentagon Footage Fraud - See the MISSING FOOTAGE!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc
I have the found the proof of editing by the pentagon. There was another bit of footage that day that shows the missing 4 seconds that were edited out of the official Pentagon release. See the footage that shows the truth and the actual impact. NOTE: After watching this I realized that you can still see the shadow of the object over the lawn yet not the object. Watch the slow motion carefully! For more information:
http://www.911lies.org/full_size_911_...
 

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911 Pentagon Footage Fraud - See the MISSING FOOTAGE!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mnzh-EyxKwc
For the love of gawd!!!

It's a CCTV camera, kind of like older webcams, it's capture rate is in blocks of bytes, not real time capture.

The explosion does not take place simultaneously. It is obvious to even a child that the fuselage is in the frame of one bit frame of capture, then the explosion happens in the next bit frame of capture.

Fukk this is simple.

Not to mention, what are the credentials of the asshat that made that vid?

I as an ex member of the Canadian Armed Forces can assure you, that a munitions explosion of that type, is far different then what that moron is trying to pass off as one.


Note the difference between munitions grade high explosives and fuel explosions differ. Fuel explosions cause a fire ball. Munitions explosions cause a percussion. Causing far more damage then was sustained by the Pentagon.

Jesus H Christ. Some people are fukking morons.

Unseen Pentagon Footage FOUR WTC 911 (wnplus)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=869bO4jI1po

lovely lawn footage no marks unbelievable undamaged lawn
Where?
 

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Pentagon Plane crash september 11th NEW ANGLE
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vnu_yiUzls

Only Aired Once About PENTAGON !!!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mcWT2lQszEE

Better quality "Hotel" Pentagon Video w/ 'Official Flt Path'
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=n4O4R0LWCQ4
This video was just released today. This is a better quality video showing "Offical Flight Path" and what we 'should see'. Shot from the hotel. As usual, you cannot see an airplane. For full in depth factual analysis on American 77, its Flight Data Recorder (black box) as provided by the NTSB, please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org (more)
 
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