Why The Towers Fell

[lone wolf]

Here's a little experiment that I wouldn't recommend to anyone rational ... but I'm full of shyte so nothing will come of it to a disbelieving you anyhow.

Fill a shot glass with high octane petrol. Now, from a standing position, lean your face over your camp fire. Now, fast pour the petrol straight on the fire.

Neat, huh? Sure you're bald now, and have no eyebrows. Your face is a little singed and red, but you have no permanent scarring - and you're still standing just like the Empire State Building.

Now, do exactly the same thing with a full gallon of kerosene.

Wow! What a rush! If you have managed to remain in the position, did you notice a difference in the heat factor? Did you find a constant heat (a lower burning temperature, of course) to be any more comfortable that the quick flash from the more volatile petrol. Is there more intense damage to yourself? Are you still standing, or did you collapse - just like the World Trade Centre?

Have fun....

 

[Colpy]

Here's a little experiment that I wouldn't recommend to anyone rational ... but I'm full of shyte so nothing will come of it to a disbelieving you anyhow.

Fill a shot glass with high octane petrol. Now, from a standing position, lean your face over your camp fire. Now, fast pour the petrol straight on the fire.

Neat, huh? Sure you're bald now, and have no eyebrows. Your face is a little singed and red, but you have no permanent scarring - and you're still standing just like the Empire State Building.

Now, do exactly the same thing with a full gallon of kerosene.

Wow! What a rush! If you have managed to remain in the position, did you notice a difference in the heat factor? Did you find a constant heat (a lower burning temperature, of course) to be any more comfortable that the quick flash from the more volatile petrol. Is there more intense damage to yourself? Are you still standing, or did you collapse - just like the World Trade Centre?

Have fun....

Well done, Lone Wolf.....

Not that it will make any difference to our friendly local Jihadist.....

Logic appears to have no effect on him whatsoever.

 

[quandary121]

the misinformation and ignored findings surrounding the September 11, 2001 attacks have evaporated the official version into the land of fiction. Didn't it seem strange that we learned everything of the government version by the next day? Much has been learned about the attacks, yet the official version has never changed; it seems as though the american government thinks the point moot since it used this excuse to pass unconstitutional laws and wage wars resulting in oil profits

 

[quandary121]

1. steel melts at 2600 degrees Celcius, the hottest the fire in the world trade centers could have reached was 800 degrees Celcius, and for an amount of time shorter than ten minutes.

2. the arab "hijackers" were deemed unable to fly a single engine plane by their instructor, and the planes on 9/11 were flown with military precision

3. Both buildings were hit with a 20 level difference in floors, were hit in different areas and yet they both fell the same exact way. In order for the buildings to fall this way, the bolts would all have to give way on one floor at the same time.

4. At the pentagon, there was no evidence of wing reckage, people reckage or even a plane at all.
[URL="http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm"]www.asile.org...[/URL]
In fact, supposedly the plane flew between two telephone poles whose distance apart was smaller than the wingspan of a boeing 757.

5. Black boxes are meant to resist just about everything: in fact an impact of 3400 G's, in comparison, astronauts experience 6 Gs during take off. The plane that hit in Penn. was going around 500 m/h and which would create an impact far under 3400 G's... ALL 8 of the black boxes simply dissappeared

6. Not one body remain was found. Body remains are always found.

7. The chances of 3 cell phones to go through on a plane is about 1/1000. the chances of 13 cell phone calls going through is next to impossible.

8. The south tower was the second tower hit. most of the fuel and burning took place OUTSIDE the building, in fact the plane didn't hit any of the supports, and yet this building fell twice as fast as the first tower that was hit.

9. There were reports of the world trade center 7 having bombs going off, covered nicely by CNN.

10. The same people who cleaned up the Oklahoma City Bombing cleaned up this mess also.

11. The concrete went to tiny dust particles for no apparent reason, not only that, but there were no large peices of steel remaining from the fall.

12. "Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.....Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of controlled implosions used to demolish old structures.
"It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C."...But Romero recanted ten days later and admitted the whole thing was perfectly natural and unsurprising. I wonder what happened in those ten days to make him so smart on the subject so quickly." (J. McMichael)

13. When planes hit buildings, their wings fall off, however in videos, the planes seem to go strait through the building.
[URL="http://thewebfairy.com/911/insane/Second_Crash_Insane.mpeg"]thewebfairy.com...[/URL]

14. The plane which hit the pentagon and the plane which hit the world trade center were carrying relatively the same amount of fuel, yet there was barely an explosion at the pentagon.

15. Seismographs in other cities measured the impacts and the fall of the buildings. The second impact had a smaller measurement than the first, however it had a larger explosion. The first impact, which had a smaller explosion had the largest marking. Not only that, but the buildings falling were insignificant on the seismograph in comparison to the impacts.

 

[quandary121]

Now, I knew that the Carlyle Group (George H.W. Bush et al) were meeting in D.C. on 9-11, but I did not know or at least remember - until I saw this - this morning, that not only was Poppy Bush and cronies there, but so too was Osama Bin Laden's brother. Those guys are thick as thieves. Then they flew 'em right outta country so that they could not be interviewed by the Fibbies. (FBI) Check this out....


Bush Senior Met With Bin Laden's Brother on 9/11

Paul Joseph Watson

Comment: Despite studying September 11 for two years solid, one fact I only just discovered is that George W. Bush's father was meeting with Osama bin Laden's brother, Shafig bin Laden, in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Washington, on the morning of 9/11. They were on Carlyle Group business just a few miles from where hijackers supposedly acting on behalf of Osama bin Laden would fly a plane into the Pentagon.

Recall that the chief financier of the so-called hijackers, Pakistan's Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, was meeting with Bush administration officials the week before 9/11. He also met with Bob Graham and Porter Goss on the morning of the attacks, who would later go on to head the first 9/11 investigative committee.

www.propagandamatrix.com...

The Bush senior/bin Laden meeting was reported on by CBC. See www.propagandamatrix.com...

This was also reported by the London Observer. See the last paragraph at observer.guardian.co.uk...

"On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama."

 

[quandary121]

To date, there has never been anything revealed to the public about
how the U.S. government KNOWS that Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda were the
actual perpetrators of 9/11.

 

[quandary121]

When top Bush administration officials immediately and in unison
denied knowing that jetliners could be used to attack American landmarks
right after 9/11, a number of alert reporters immediately pointed out
that this very subject had been under government study for almost a
decade. And when U.S. officials immediately released a list of the
alleged hijackers, the lie was immediately visible to those with eyes to
see: how could they deny knowing this possibility of a massive jetliner
attack existed, yet be able to name the alleged hijackers almost
instantly because these individuals had been under surveillance for
months?

If they could name the alleged hijackers, then they couldn't deny
knowing the possibility of using planes as weapons existed, could they?

As astonishing events unfolded after the tragedy � the hasty passage
of the Patriot Act (approved by Congress despite virtually no one in
Congress reading it before voting for it), which nullified large
portions of the U.S. Constitution; constant "terror alerts" about which
no evidence was ever produced; the war against Afghanistan which was
claimed to be a response to 9/11 yet was planned long before 9/11; and
the war against Iraq, which was waged because that nation supposedly
threatened America with weapons of mass destruction (which have never
and will never be found, unless planted) and had ties to that mystery
terror group called al-Qaeda (since proven to be lies) � many more
millions of Americans began to understand that the new peril they were
in was not from some shadowy worldwide terror group but from
unscrupulous demagogues in Washington who would invent any story � and
kill any number of people � in order to improve the fortunes of the very
military/industrial power brokers who illegally brought them to power in
the first place.

In the mind of these many more millions of Americans, a new
syllogism began to take shape: if they lied about why they went to war
in Afghanistan and they lied about why they went to war in Iraq, how
stupid would Americans have to be to believe what they said about 9/11?

And yet, through two years of intense flag waving, during which most
Americans were too terrified to say anything critical of those who were
ostensibly protecting us from this new wave of worldwide terror, the
lies became cast in stone. The media, owned by the same shameful
specimens who own the weapons making companies, refused to even
entertain the notion that the U.S. government could tell blatant lies to
its own people, never mind murder thousands of them in one day.

 

[quandary121]

These are transcripts of communications on 9-11. They were released only after the New York Times sued the New York Port Authority for their discloser. What was the Port Authority trying to hide....?



9/11 Transcripts and Police Reports



After the documents had been released to the media, a spokesperson for the Port Authority told The Memory Hole that it would not be able to get this material. "We're screening pretty carefully," she said on the phone, adding that the only way we'd see these documents would be to get our hands on a set already released to a media outlet. She also said, without prompting, that the Port Authority will never put these public documents online.

After invoking the Port Authority's freedom of information policy, we were able to get the material, but only after paying $500 (a ridiculous 25 cents per page). Thanks to the generosity of contributors, we were able to cough up the money.

The material will be posted in chunks, with new portions every week until it's all online.
Complete transcripts: [URL="http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-transcripts/"]www.thememoryhole.org...[/URL]

 

[quandary121]

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9/11 Transcripts from LaGuardia[/FONT]​

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]LaGuardia - [/FONT]Ch. 13 - Tower Direct
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]LaGuardia - [/FONT]Ch. 038
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]LaGuardia - [/FONT]Ch. 018 - Ground Control Radio
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]LaGuardia - [/FONT]Ch. 039 - Alt. Ground Control Radio
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Port Authority Police Reports for 9/11[/FONT]​

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9/11 Transcripts[/FONT]​

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Path - Ch. 2 - Phone Desk Right
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This is now the complete version
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Path - Ch. 11 - Phone Desk Left
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Path - Ch. 12 - Jersey City Fire Dept.
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Path - Ch. 13 - Jersey City Medical Center
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Path - Ch. 14 - Jersey City Police
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Path - Ch. 15 - NYPD
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Path - Ch. 19 - Conference Room One
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Path - Ch. 21 - Radio Trainmaster (R2)
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Path - Ch. 23 - Phone - Court Officer 1
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Path - Ch. 27 - Radio (R3) Communications
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Path - Newark Airport Ch. 023 - Radio - EWR Command 800 MHz
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Path - Newark Airport Ch. 025 - Radio - EWR TACI 800 MHz
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Newark Airport - Ch. 028 - Phone - Police Desk - Left - 961-6230
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Newark Airport - Ch. 029 - Phone - Police Desk - Center - 961-6230
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Newark Airport - Ch. 031 - Phone - Police Desk - Right - 961-6230
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Newark Airport - Ch. 036 - Radio Channel Z - Operations & Terminals
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Newark Airport - Ch. 038 - Radio Channel Z - Facility Management
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Newark Airport - Ch. 039 - Radio Channel B - Maintenance
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CPD - Ch 15 - SPEN - State Police
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CPD - Ch 16 - SPEN - State Police
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CPD - Ch 17 - Radio (Ch. A) - PA area wide
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CPD - Ch. 18 - Radio (Ch. W) LT Police
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CPD - Ch. 23 - Sgt's Desk (201) 216-6800
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CPD - Ch. 24 - Phone Clerk - 201-216-6800
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CPD - Ch. 27 - Phone - TTY NY (2)- (201) 216-6800
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CPD - Ch. 29 - Phone - Police Desk
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CPD - Ch. 33 - Phone - Sgt.'s Desk 800 Number
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WTC - Ch. 08 - Police Desk - 3541 Left
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WTC - Ch. 10 - Police Desk - 3541 Right
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WTC Ch. 13 - OFC - 3591
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WTC Ch. 18 - Fire Command, Two World Trade Center
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WTC Ch. 22 - SHO PD Desk - 2131
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WTC Ch. 26 - Radio Channel W - Police
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WTC Ch. 28 - Radio Channel Y - Operations
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WTC Ch. 29 - Radio Channel Z - Vertical Transportation
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September 11 Special Awards Ceremony[/FONT]​

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]September 11 Special Awards Ceremony, Volume 1: Civilian (part 1)
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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]September 11 Special Awards Ceremony, Volume 1: Civilian (part 2)
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[quandary121]

INDEX
9/11 and Pentagon: Incident and event prior, during, and after, towers collapses, building surrounding, crash, photos, theories, airplanes, intelligence, analysis, Mossad, Osama, PNAC, etc.....:

9/11 Incident
Questions about 911, its just not adding up right
Who is the FBI Protecting?
Car Bomb Explodes Outside Pentagon: A 9-11 Diversion?
Widow: 9/11 passengers planned to resist
Did a plane really hit the pentagon or was it a missle?
Looking for 911 pentegon photo...
Was Flight 93 on 9/11 shot down?
Where's the evidence?!?!
The 9-11 Whitewash
Bush Senior Met With Bin Laden's Brother on 9/11
Mossad and 9/11
No Hijackers For 911
Forget what you know about 9/11
9/11 Photos, or Lack Thereof...
WTC building #7
9/11 research team
PROOF that the pentagon didn't get hit by a boeing 757
TA-HISTORY: German Trial Reveals Pre-911 Warning by Iranian Spy
Could 9/11 have been prevented?
Tracking the 19 Hijackers - At least 9 of them survived 9/11
TWA flight 800
9-11 Cover Up is Falling Apart
9/11 numerology
9/11 Chair: Attack Was Preventable
Did a missile hit the pentagon on 911?
Who Benefited from the 9/11 Attacks
911 WTC collapse
9/11 investigitation : "stranger than fiction"
govenment's envolvement with 9/11
Overlooked 9/11 conspiracy
9-11's Limited Hangouts
9/11 Transcripts and Police Reports
9/11 alot of conspiracies?
Pentagon surveillance cctv 2001/9/11 - Please Read
5th Estate special on 9-11
Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits
Missing wing (911 - pentagon)
Truth, Lies, and The Legend of 9/11
9-11: OPERATION PEARL
FBI: Moussaoui not involved
Where was Warren Buffet on 9-11 and What was he doing?
wtc7 collapse analysis
U.S. Government Chose Date of 9/11 Attacks.
WTC
WTC7 is the key to the governments involvement in 9-11
Ex German Parliment member speaks on 9/11
9/11 - The official story contradicts the laws of physics and the most basic knowledge of the behavior
9/11 Mastermind: Plan Involved 10 Planes
Sept._11's_Smoking_Gun:_The Many_Faces_of_Saeed_Sheikh
Germans lapping up 9/11 conspiracy theories
Well since 'they' knew about 9/11...
9/11 Controlled Demo? I dont think so
Many questions loom about Sept. 11, 2001
Demolition of WTC - pictures inside!
September 11th And The Bush Administration
Sept 11th...
9/11 Attack In Bible Codes?
9/11 Hijackers - The ones who got away!
Pentagon before 9/11
9/11 Conspiracy Site found
9-11 and cell phones
Bin laden died years before 9/11?
9-11 theory..the Russians
Report: Flight 77 Exceeded its Software Limits
The Real Truth about 9-11
odd photos from 911
Two 9-11 hijackers 'lived with FBI informant'
Disgusted FBI Agent Leaking Story Of Government Scandal Related To 9-11 Attacks
Pentagon cctv 9/11 : where are the missing frames?
Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77
Project for the New American Century.
Russian MP claims US carried out September 11 attacks
There is a hidden agenda 9/11
FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11
FBI Admits: No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' to 9-11
100% proof 9/11 was an implosion
Another 9/11 hijacker found alive (BBC)
you have to think the us is responsible for 9-11 if.....
Chinese Planners Took Credit for 9/11
9-11 Hijackers still very much alive!!!!!
Questions for Bush regarding 9-11
The Government Sponsored 9/11!!!
9-11 HIJACKERS FOUND ALIVE
The Jet Fighter Stand Down on 9/11 - THE 9/11, not the anniversary
9/11 Security Failure revisited: Transponders Off, people
9/11 Whitehouse Intelligence
Brown Rice Warning (!) 9/11
9-11...DID BUSH KNOW?
Bombs in the Building: World Trade Center 'Conspiracy Theory' is a Conspiracy Fact
The Secrets of September 11
BUSH-BENLADEN ASSOCIATES!
Hilton: 9-11 Hijackers funded by the US Government
Kerry knew about lax airport security prior to 9/11
NORAD, Our most beloved enemy
THE PROJECT FOR THE NEW AMERICAN CENTURY
9/11, was it Al-Qaeda?
Flight 77 Wreckage Pictures Inside Pentagon
911 facts even Alex Jones doesn't discuss...
A hole in the government's story about Alomari and Atta in Portland, ME.
9-11 Conspiracy Theorist Challenge
Terror Analysis Special Report: The Flight to 911
video of plane with something attached to it
9/11 Tape DESTROYED?
The Real Smoking Gun of 9/11
Complete 911 Timeline: Central Asian oil,Enron,Afghan pipelines
Welcome to Terrorland - Mohammad Atta and 9/11
9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon

 

[Colpy]

Yep.

Looked at a couple of those.

You really do have a talent for gathering together the rantings of idiots, paranoids, apologists, Islamists and assorted other scum.

I fail to be impressed.

 

[quandary121]

Yep.

Looked at a couple of those.

You really do have a talent for gathering together the rantings of idiots, paranoids, apologists, Islamists and assorted other scum.

I fail to be impressed.

why do you think i would want to impress you colpy your the last person i think about when i post things in fact i never think about you pal your too conceited twisted and hopeless

 

[CDNBear]

look IDIOT you cannot have a stove that has a visible flame "without air" it may have an air tight door it may even be air tight but for a flame to exist it "needs air" i lived on the road with agypsy caravan for 14 years pal and i had a stove too surprising enough your arguement is rubish like all your arguements

:lol:

look fool even in your quote it says air is added your a Prick thus not air tight is it

Look moron, I know how they work. If you were capable of critical thought, you would have gathered the jist of my reference to them. A smoldering fire, buried under tons of rubble, with a low oxygen atmosphere...yep, just like an airtight wood burning stove...EUREKA!!!

read about it pal

:roll:

( to a dumb ass brit )

Yes, yes you are.

Many witnesses were in their cars, in a traffic jam directly in front of the Pentagon. Most of those people drove away and were not interviewed. Below is a summary of the accounts quoted in the lists and spreadsheet summary above. These are mostly accounts that appeared in mainstream media reports. Many more people probably witnessed the attack.

From the lists above, 136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and​

104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon. ​

6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.​

26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet. ​

39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.​

2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.​

7 said it was a Boeing 757.​

8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.​

2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.​

4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.​

10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).​

16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.​

42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.​

2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.​

15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel. ​

3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.​

3 took photographs of the aftermath.​

Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."​

And of course,​

0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon. ​

0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.​

And WOW...not one saw a missile?

If jet fuel brought down the towers why did the empire state building not collapes
on july 26 1945.????????????

Two completely different buildings, two completely different airplanes, two completely different sets of circumstances, two completely different sets of results....WOW!!! Mindboggling!!! 8O

You're really on to something there.

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Fuel for a B-25 is high octane gasoline which would have vaporized almost immediately in the explosion whereas the kerosene/paraffin mix of jet fuel is somewhat slower burning. The collision itself involved a much smaller airplane flying at a much lower speed.

Bingo!!!

so what are you saying here lone-wolf that the fact that the fuel caught fire means nothing, because it did not reach the same kind of temperatures or what.!!! come off it pal the fact that a plane hit the building and the fuel burnt up same as the WTC aviation fuel did as we can see in the footage due to the fire ball and then the dark smoke .concecuences would have been the same surly.????

:roll: You really are brain dead, aren't you?

In my own words? If I cut and paste, I credit the author, thank you very much.

Yes, gasoline burns at a higher temperature than kerosene. The minimal fuel (gasoline) aboard the B-25 would have vapourized immediately into one very hot fireball that would have dissipated within seconds. Approximately 100 times the volume of slower burning jet fuel at WTC is going to give off considerably more heat over a longer period of time. Fire will cause steel to plasticize long before it actually begins to melt. Further, impact would have severely damaged or completely sheared truss/joist/OWSJ to spandel or core connections at several levels.

Empire State Building was of completely different construction. Don't forget, it was erected in a time when craftsmen took pride in their workmanship and wages plus materials didn't encourage the cutting of corners to cut costs.

http://www.werboom.de/vt/html/body_707_vs_767.html
http://forthardknox.com/2008/02/07/1945-empire-state-b-25-crash-vs-9-11/
http://www.debunk911myths.org/topics/B-25_bomber

Seems pretty clear cut and backed up to me Wolf...

why do you think i would want to impress you colpy your the last person i think about when i post things in fact i never think about you pal your too conceited twisted and hopeless

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Look quandary...conundrum, or whatever you are today. Everything that has been said to you is easily verifiable, and has even been supported. Your messed in the head and there is nothing anyone of us can do to educate you. Good luck in life. I'm sure when you reach your 20th birth day, you'll start to see things a little differently.

 

[quandary121]

:lol:

Look moron, I know how they work. If you were capable of critical thought, you would have gathered the jist of my reference to them. A smoldering fire, buried under tons of rubble, with a low oxygen atmosphere...yep, just like an airtight wood burning stove...EUREKA!!!

:roll:

Yes, yes you are.

And WOW...not one saw a missile?



:roll:


Bingo!!!
:roll: You really are brain dead, aren't you?

Seems pretty clear cut and backed up to me Wolf...

:roll:

Look quandary...conundrum, or whatever you are today. Everything that has been said to you is easily verifiable, and has even been supported. Your messed in the head and there is nothing anyone of us can do to educate you. Good luck in life. I'm sure when you reach your 20th birth day, you'll start to see things a little differently.

look you retarded monkey same goes for you. i dont give a hoot about what you think. say. or post. you are a blueprint idiot that they use to build other idiots from.

 

[quandary121]

:lol:

Look moron, I know how they work. If you were capable of critical thought, you would have gathered the jist of my reference to them. A smoldering fire, buried under tons of rubble, with a low oxygen atmosphere...yep, just like an airtight wood burning stove...EUREKA!!!

1. steel melts at 2600 degrees Celcius, the hottest the fire in the world trade centers could have reached was 800 degrees Celcius, and for an amount of time shorter than ten minutes.
:roll:

Yes, yes you are.

realy like i give a **** what your lame adolesent rantings are about

And WOW...not one saw a missile?

where are the video tapes oh yea they were all confiscated apart from one which has just now only been released through a court judgment but i wont bother to look for it as you aint worth my time



:roll:

Bingo!!!
:roll: You really are brain dead, aren't you?

no need to talk about your self that way cndbear im sure some deluded prick likes you even if i dont

Seems pretty clear cut and backed up to me Wolf...

just what i expected to hear from you your only interested in what you think to be the truth not the actual truth

:roll:

Look quandary...conundrum, or whatever you are today. Everything that has been said to you is easily verifiable, and has even been supported. Your messed in the head and there is nothing anyone of us can do to educate you. Good luck in life. I'm sure when you reach your 20th birth day, you'll start to see things a little differently.

im probably older then you twat

 

[CDNBear]

look you retarded monkey same goes for you. i dont give a hoot about what you think. say. or post. you are a blueprint idiot that they use to build other idiots from.

Wow, you going to give credit to the person you stole that come back from?

I doubt it...

Have you figured out that there are such things as airtight wood burning stoves yet? And how they compare to the rubble of the WTC?

I doubt that too.

You can't even grasp the difference in building technology between the WTC and the ESB. Or the difference between modern avi fuel and high octane gasoline.

With all that going against you, no wonder you swallow all the stupidity that people spoon feed you.

Carry on, as you were little man.

im probably older then you twat

I highly doubt that... I'm 37, your what? 15? 16? 18 tops...And I don't care what you say to the contrary, you don't type nor converse like an adult, so there's no way you're older then your high teens. Besides that, no one of any adult age, could be a ridiculous and stupid as you have shown yourself to be and survived into adult hood safely.

 

[quandary121]

Wow, you going to give credit to the person you stole that come back from?

I doubt it...

Have you figured out that there are such things as airtight wood burning stoves yet? And how they compare to the rubble of the WTC?

I doubt that too.

You can't even grasp the difference in building technology between the WTC and the ESB. Or the difference between modern avi fuel and high octane gasoline.

With all that going against you, no wonder you swallow all the stupidity that people spoon feed you.

Carry on, as you were little man.

I highly doubt that... I'm 37, your what? 15? 16? 18 tops...And I don't care what you say to the contrary, you don't type nor converse like an adult, so there's no way you're older then your high teens. Besides that, no one of any adult age, could be a ridiculous and stupid as you have shown yourself to be and survived into adult hood safely.

im 45 you fuktard 12/05/1963


i dont need an idiot to tell me ****

 

[CDNBear]

i dont need an idiot to tell me ****

We know...we know you know ****...



And there's no way you're 45...unless you've been sheltered in an institution for all these years, which would explain alot...



All you've done is cut and paste, no outside proof, no critical thought or personal analysis. Nada, zip, zero...just cut...and...paste...great work.

 

[CDNBear]

your frigging air tight stove was feed air so it could have a flame, fool.!!!like i said you cant have a flame with out air your brain must have be starved of this at birth so you should know all about it.

I'ld love for you to show me where I said an airtight stove did not allow oxygen in...

Please supply quote to prove thus.

 

[quandary121]

We know...we know you know ****...



And there's no way you're 45...unless you've been sheltered in an institution for all these years, which would explain alot...



All you've done is cut and paste, no outside proof, no critical thought or personal analysis. Nada, zip, zero...just cut...and...paste...great work.

look dick brain as i live in England ,how the hell do you expect me to show you proof ,Ive cut and pasted to back up what Ive said, you on the other hand have an easier job, in the fact that you have to prove Nada zilch zip, just sit back and say nah, i don't believe, well sod off pal I'm sick of telling you any thing, go soak your head pal ,I'm not here to pander to your whims ,Ive said enough we will see the out come off this soon enough, mean while go find another person to play with cos i ain't interested ,also i don't give a dam weather you think I'm 45 or not like, all the rest of your post here there meaningless and uninteresting ,i care not what you colpy, lone-wolf, itn, or any other lunatic thinks, for all i know your all here to discredit those of us who know the truth about what happen,and are all part of the same masonic sect but then i would think that wouldent i.????