Why should they apologize- Such a buffoon.

Blackleaf

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Well tell me what a Security Detail does when they cannot positively ID a person?

Why couldn't they positively ID him? This is Prince Andrew we are talking about, one of the most famous people in the world. There's something very wrong if the people chosen to protect him can't even recognise him.

Just imagine the uproar if White House security staff could not recognise Obama or his wife.
 

Blackleaf

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Andy is no 'superstar' as you claim.

Where have I used the world "superstar"?

What I have said is that Prince Andrew is one of the most famous people in the world, and the fact that his own security staff supposedly cannot recognise him is, quite honestly, bizarre. They should have known who he was even if he WASN'T famous - he's the person they are supposed to be protecting.

I'll tell you what Prince Andrew is, though - he's not only a Falklands War veteran but, between 2001 and 2011, he was the United Kingdom's Special Representative for International Trade and Investment, which involved representing and promoting the UK at various trade fairs and conferences around the world.

He tours Canada frequently to undertake duties related to his Canadian military role. Rick Peters, the former Commanding Officer of the Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada stated: "[Prince Andrew]'s very well informed on Canadian military methods."

On 3 September 2012, the Duke of York was among a team of 40 people who abseiled down The Shard (tallest building in Europe) to raise money for educational charities the Outward Bound Trust and the Royal Marines Charitable Trust Fund.

Not only that, but he's fifth in line to the Throne of sixteen countries - and yet he is assigned security staff who don't even kow who he is!
 

gerryh

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to make this more clear for the terminally brain dead, Blackleaf is using "cop" to signify an individual officer and "police" to signify the force itself. I didn't find it confusing in the least and quite clear in his post.
 

SLM

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I don't see what the big deal is, it's not like he threw a fit and demanded an apology. He made a joke of it. I would expect that the assigned guards at the palace would recognize immediate members of the royal family but they were probably just jittery and on edge from the break in a few days before. They made a mistake. Seems like everyone, except for the individuals actually involved, are making this a bigger deal than it is.
 

Goober

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They are briefed if you do not recognize a person, confirm with an ID. Think of the thousands of faces that have to be committed to memory.
They did not make any mistakes.
They were following clear and laid out common sense procedures.
The mistakes come when you do not recognize then do not confirm their identity. That is where the mistakes arise and stuff then happens.
He did not demand, but someone felt the need to apologize.
There was no need to apologize.



Where have I used the world "superstar"?

What I have said is that Prince Andrew is one of the most famous people in the world, and the fact that his own security staff supposedly cannot recognise him is, quite honestly, bizarre. They should have known who he was even if he WASN'T famous - he's the person they are supposed to be protecting.

I'll tell you what Prince Andrew is, though - he's not only a Falklands War veteran but, between 2001 and 2011, he was the United Kingdom's Special Representative for International Trade and Investment, which involved representing and promoting the UK at various trade fairs and conferences around the world.

He tours Canada frequently to undertake duties related to his Canadian military role. Rick Peters, the former Commanding Officer of the Royal Highland Fusiliers of Canada stated: "[Prince Andrew]'s very well informed on Canadian military methods."

On 3 September 2012, the Duke of York was among a team of 40 people who abseiled down The Shard (tallest building in Europe) to raise money for educational charities the Outward Bound Trust and the Royal Marines Charitable Trust Fund.

Not only that, but he's fifth in line to the Throne of sixteen countries - and yet he is assigned security staff who don't even kow who he is!

Just an honest Bloke helping out the country. Right

Did Prince Andrew avoid a £6 million tax bill when he sold Sunninghill to his Kazakh friends? - Telegraph
Prince Andrew sold the five acre property to an offshore trust which belonged to Timur Kulibayev, the billionaire son-in-law of the Kazakh president, Nursultan Nazarbayev, who he had entertained as part of his Government role as Britain’s trade ambassador. Kulibayev has a child with Andrew’s socialite friend Goga Ashkenazi

The controversy surrounding the sale of the 12 bedroom house in 2003 for £3 million over the market value was compounded when the new owners failed to move in and left the house, built as a wedding gift from the Queen to the Duke and Sarah Ferguson, to fall into a state of disrepair.
 
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Goober

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I don't live there, I'm not a Brit, and I'm not the one that was tasked with security at Buckingham Palace, but even I know what Prince Andrew looks like.

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Add in the staff, the others that are authorized to visit, members of the Civil Service, Military and on and on.
Then explain to us what experience you have in this area?
Other than being wrong that is.
 

Chev

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JLM In this day and age you just can't never tell, what with all the piercings, tattoos, blue hair etc. Lizzy is probably quite predictable but the rest are doubtful, well perhaps with the exception of Camilla. (not much can be done to improve THAT)”
I’d be ID’ing that witch anyway, just cause I could. If anything I’ve read about what she’s said and done to Kate is true, you bet I’d do it.
 

JLM

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JLM In this day and age you just can't never tell, what with all the piercings, tattoos, blue hair etc. Lizzy is probably quite predictable but the rest are doubtful, well perhaps with the exception of Camilla. (not much can be done to improve THAT)”
I’d be ID’ing that witch anyway, just cause I could. If anything I’ve read about what she’s said and done to Kate is true, you bet I’d do it.

Guess I missed what Camilla did and said to Kate. Kate don't appear to be any the worse for it! Albeit, Camilla is about as homely as a mud fence.
 

WLDB

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I'm not a fan of forced apologies. If a person doesn't actually mean it they shouldn't say it. Not even for appearance's sake.