Why No One Should Join the Canadian Forces

[Cliffy]

A Defence Department report recently tabled in the House of Commons "showed a shortfall of nearly 900 regular force members and 4,500 part-time reservists at the end of March due to higher than forecasted attrition and other factors."
To put that into perspective the 5,400 less troops equates to 135 less platoons. Or 45 less companies or even 15 less battalions. Which means the Canadian forces is down 3.75 brigades, or almost two full divisions. It has gotten so bad that the Canadian forces has lowered their physical fitness standard and some soldiers are put through fitness camp before they go on basic training.
So what is the root cause of this? I think there are three major flaws that are contributing to this downward spiral. The reason that the Canadian Forces is having such a hard time retaining and recruiting troops is because of budget cuts, the state of the equipment, and the knowledge that if you are injured on the job you will not be properly taken care of by Veterans Affairs.



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[WLDB]

I tried to join when I was 19 but they turned me down. Given the way vets are treated by the government they probably did me a favour by not taking me.

 

[Walter]

What a pile of BS. I live near a base in ON and when I meet the soldiers in town and buy them a coffee they invariably tell me how much they enjoy the military life.

 

[Durry]

This should come as no surprise at all.

It has been mainly whites that have been doing all the heavy lifting in the military.
Canada population is presently made up of about 22% of visible minorities, so if all ethnic groups carried their share of the heavy lifting we would have about 22% visible minorities in our military. But we presently have less than 4% in our military that are visible minority.

With the high levels of immigration, this will mean that less of these people will be doing the heavy lifting meaning that the Whites will have to do more than there share.
They are getting tired of being used.

 

[JLM]

This should come as no surprise at all.

It has been mainly whites that have been doing all the heavy lifting in the military.
Canada population is presently made up of about 22% of visible minorities, so if all ethnic groups carried their share of the heavy lifting we would have about 22% visible minorities in our military. But we presently have less than 4% in our military that are visible minority.

With the high levels of immigration, this will mean that less of these people will be doing the heavy lifting meaning that the Whites will have to do more than there share.
They are getting tired of being used.

I don't think race should be a factor in the makeup of any occupational group. Ability to do the job professionally should be the only prerequisite and criteria.

 

[WLDB]

What a pile of BS. I live near a base in ON and when I meet the soldiers in town and buy them a coffee they invariably tell me how much they enjoy the military life.

Just because some enjoy and thrive in it doesnt mean everyone does.

With the high levels of immigration, this will mean that less of these people will be doing the heavy lifting meaning that the Whites will have to do more than there share.
They are getting tired of being used.

As a white person I dont particularly care.

 

[B00Mer]

It's a great career, with good people. You can learn a trade, get an education...

 

[damngrumpy]

The state of world events may well see a lot of people join and maybe
not by choice its called a draft in wartime and don't be surprised if they
are already gearing up

 

[JLM]

The state of world events may well see a lot of people join and maybe
not by choice its called a draft in wartime and don't be surprised if they
are already gearing up

I disagree with the draft or conscription. There's no surer way of getting non compliance than by telling someone they have to do something. I think there are plenty of people who want to do it.

 

[B00Mer]

I would like to see Canada adopt Israels Compulsory military service..

Compulsory military service for every Canadian for 2 years.. teaches the younger generation discipline, work ethics, how to take orders and maybe a basic trade.

Canada does not have a huge population, so it may work. 18 years of age, give a couple of years of your life to your country.

John F Kennedy 'Ask not' - YouTube

 

[MHz]

Considering that Canada does not make policy or decide who the wars are against why not just let the cannon fodder join the UK or US or Israel and they can train them to hate who they are supposed to hate.

Boomer suggests 2 years for every citizen so that a civilian knows how to be a soldier. He forgot to allow for any time to turn a soldier back into a civilian but when your training is based on what is taught in the Schools of America it would take a lot more to un-train them. These soldiers had to un-train themselves, at least they are human again.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgQpUGDTMyo

Why not just train them where they are supposed to fight and die.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20150124/1017285933.html
The initial deployment will be mostly composed of special operations soldiers who will act as an advanced survey team to examine training sites and prepare for further deployments, Kirby said. The training sites will be located in Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, where the Pentagon plans to produce 5,000 fighters by as early as the end of the year. As the program develops as many as 15,000 Syrian opposition fighters could be trained in the coming years, according to the Pentagon.

 

[Durry]

I don't think race should be a factor in the makeup of any occupational group. Ability to do the job professionally should be the only prerequisite and criteria.

It's important that everybody do their fair share in keeping this country strong and free. All races can contribute in their own way using the skills they have.

It's not fair that only one race of people do all the heavy lifting and suffer for their efforts for years afterwards while others come here to only enjoy the good life on the backs of others.

 

[JLM]

It's important that everybody do their fair share in keeping this country strong and free. All races can contribute in their own way using the skills they have.

It's not fair that only one race of people do all the heavy lifting and suffer for their efforts for years afterwards while others come here to only enjoy the good life on the backs of others.

There's other aspects of life beside the military where "heavy lifting" is involved. Care of the elderly and infirm is one, being a paramedic would be another!

 

[taxslave]

It's a great career, with good people. You can learn a trade, get an education...

Don't forget getting a lifetime pension by the time you are 40.

There's other aspects of life beside the military where "heavy lifting" is involved. Care of the elderly and infirm is one, being a paramedic would be another!

You don't find a lot of minorities being paramedics or firefighters either.

 

[Walter]

Considering that Canada does not make policy or decide who the wars are against why not just let the cannon fodder join the UK or US or Israel and they can train them to hate who they are supposed to hate.

Did Che train you to hate?

 

[Durry]

There's other aspects of life beside the military where "heavy lifting" is involved. Care of the elderly and infirm is one, being a paramedic would be another!

Caring for the elderly is not really putting your life on the line.

 

[JLM]

Caring for the elderly is not really putting your life on the line.

Maybe you should try it sometime where the elderly are demented and combative! There's jobs in the military that are no more dangerous than a care worker's job is.

 

[Sons of Liberty]

Why shouldn't anyone join the Canadian Forces, it is a force of good in the world.

 

[WLDB]

It's not fair that only one race of people do all the heavy lifting and suffer for their efforts for years afterwards while others come here to only enjoy the good life on the backs of others.

No one is forcing any particular race to do everything. Its a voluntary force. If people dont want to do the job, then dont join.

Also, life in general is not fair. Get used to it.

John F Kennedy 'Ask not' - YouTube

Ask, not tell.

The state of world events may well see a lot of people join and maybe
not by choice its called a draft in wartime and don't be surprised if they
are already gearing up

It didnt come in here until the final year of both world wars. If they were able to get through most of those wars without it then I see no need for it now. In WW2 it didnt really make much of a difference with all the exemptions people were able to get.

 

[SLM]

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Ask, not tell.

I thought it was 'don't ask, don't tell'.