Why leaving Canada makes sense for Alberta, and U.S. would likely welcome a new state

B00Mer

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Yes, and I'm sure you feel entitled to your entitlements.

Ask not what your country....oh never mind. You're just another pig at the trough. If we got rid of socialized health care you would be gone in a flash being the proud Canadian you are eh?

Nah, I think we need to revamp Canadian Health Care and add co-pays for everyone.. a user fee of sorts. $25 for a doctor's visit, $50 for urgent care, and $100 for Emergency. The money can go back into the system directly to the facility to help improve services.

This way the facilities that are visited more get a direct infusion of money from users to improve facilities, immediately.

But as I remember you were dead against that when I suggested it before, however I'm sure that welfare grabbing leeches like you could get a voucher or something so you don't have to pay the co-pay.

But I know the Dippers will be dead against paying any user fees, or anything at all.. they just want free stuff from the government.
 

Cannuck

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I'm in favour of user fees so I'll just add that to the ever-expanding list of things you're wrong about. The list is getting pretty long.
 

darkbeaver

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I'm in favour of scraping social healthcare altogether in Canada, let the sick and old die in turn. That is if you're really interested in drastic reduction of government expendetures. You will note this proposed programe would greatly promote interest in personal health care initiative, something lacking almost entirely in most Canadians dayly thinking. I have abused the system at will my entire life with no penalty whatever. I have recently, because of health difficulties, taken fittness to heart and I am pleased to announce that I have done away with at least one pack of cigarretts a day leaving me only consuming the other one, this has greatly enhanced my breathing and road work. I can now do the entire seventy five feet to the half ton without resting. Sometimes I even do it without a smoke on the way.
 
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gerryh

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Well boomer, you want to leave, don't let door hit your a$$ on the way out, and leave your citizenship at the door too, traitor.

Shows us your true colours, when the going gets tough, the pussies run like scared little girls.
 

B00Mer

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Well boomer, you want to leave, don't let door hit your a$$ on the way out, and leave your citizenship at the door too, traitor.

Shows us your true colours, when the going gets tough, the pussies run like scared little girls.

Wow, personal attacks to a NationalPost.com story. :lol:

I think GerryH has too much fiber in his diet.

However, I'm kind of shocked personally, after the election this is like the 3rd news story I have seen on this topic hit Canadian forums.

Would Alberta be better off outside Canada?

Should Alberta separate?

I can also understand the anger and resentment of the idea from those "Have-not" provinces.

We would still have Hockey, our football could become NFL, we would have pipelines, no transfer payments ($25B/year which Ontario & Quebec thank us by blocking pipelines), stronger currencies giving us more buying power and I don't think the guns issue would be that big of a problem as long as we still have bad winters.

Politically, AB has almost no say in Canadian federal politics. It's a no contest now that Trudeau Jr. is now PM, we could be headed for the 1980s when Pierre Trudeau destroyed the AB economy. No Canadian provinces will let AB develop our resources the way they could be. BC refuses to let us build a pipeline an deast of Saskatchewan Ontario and Quebec outright refuse. We are forced to sell our oil at $20-40 discounts to the US already since we have no other buyers without ocean access. Obama would not be allowed to veto a pipeline if AB was a US state.

The very fact that the CBC is so heavily endorsing this leads me to believe the east really does want us gone in the name of "environmentalism."
 
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You spelled Russia wrong. Montana and Alberta would be a good match and it should be mostly snow free compared to places further east.

Great for the oil barons who'll suck it dry and leave it destitute with a big mess to clean up
Think of it as 'pre-emptive job creation'. The trick would be to clean it up and leave it in a more useful fashion than it began.

How about a name change instead, to Harper Valley. Nobody would have to adapt to any new rules.
 

mentalfloss

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Okay, I know there is some obvious regret here but this level of salt is unprecedented.

Next we'll be hearing about Albertans looking for a 50+1 referendum.
 

Cannuck

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We would still have Hockey, our football could become NFL, we would have pipelines, no transfer payments ($25B/year which Ontario & Quebec thank us by blocking pipelines), stronger currencies giving us more buying power and I don't think the guns issue would be that big of a problem as long as we still have bad winters.
Who is this "us" and "we" you are referring to. You claim to have moved to Ontario so, as far as Alberta politics are concerned you are not part of us/we.

Who says that AB would have to join anyone?.. No reason that an economic separation could occur and be an independent entity
You're dumber than Boomer...and that's an awfully difficult accomplishment
 

darkbeaver

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Which ones?

Well since you asked the question it surely means you won't accept the answers. Here's one for you. Where did all the bombs the USA paid for go?

Great for the oil barons who'll suck it dry and leave it destitute with a big mess to clean up

The farm land is worth more. There's an awful lot of oil sitting in the ground all over the planet. Just punch up known reserves and undeveloped reserves. There are some fields that could supply the whole planet. You just have to have Uncle Slams permission to develope and of course he's got his hand out for his cut, or else.