Why is horrific oppression by communists ignored?

[Sal]

I have known about the horrendous conditions in N Korea for decades. How? When 60 Minutes did real journalism back around 20 years ago. They did a huge hour on NK with cameras which had been smuggled in. They risked their lives to do so when real, raw, truthful journalism meant something. When it wasn't just entertainment for the masses.

Why don't the people rise up...simple, keep your people so physically weak there is no possibility. Keep the music playing loud and bombard them hourly with propaganda about the positivity of Kim Il-sung and his heirs.

Back then they were starving, sometimes living for days on potato water which they had brewed into a form of alcohol. They had goals and anyone could be arrested and incarcerated at a moments notice. The conditions within these goals were beyond horrendous. Mothers killed their babies because the babies would just slowly starve to death as there was no food for infants.

Anti Americanism was rampant as was the rest of the world.

None of this is new. Average life span is very low.

Why is it allowed? There is nothing there that we want.

I am not about to read about it. Why? It is beyond sickening. It is the stuff of nightmares. Nothing will be done.

 

[darkbeaver]

I have known about the horrendous conditions in N Korea for decades. How? When 60 Minutes did real journalism back around 20 years ago. They did a huge hour on NK with cameras which had been smuggled in. They risked their lives to do so when real, raw, truthful journalism meant something. When it wasn't just entertainment for the masses.

Why don't the people rise up...simple, keep your people so physically weak there is no possibility. Keep the music playing loud and bombard them hourly with propaganda about the positivity of Kim Il-sung and his heirs.

Back then they were starving, sometimes living for days on potato water which they had brewed into a form of alcohol. They had goals and anyone could be arrested and incarcerated at a moments notice. The conditions within these goals were beyond horrendous. Mothers killed their babies because the babies would just slowly starve to death as there was no food for infants.

Anti Americanism was rampant as was the rest of the world.

None of this is new. Average life span is very low.

Why is it allowed? There is nothing there that we want.

I am not about to read about it. Why? It is beyond sickening. It is the stuff of nightmares. Nothing will be done.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like… if, during periods of mass arrests, … people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

 

[WLDB]

Why don't the people rise up...simple, keep your people so physically weak there is no possibility. Keep the music playing loud and bombard them hourly with propaganda about the positivity of Kim Il-sung and his heirs.

Back then they were starving, sometimes living for days on potato water which they had brewed into a form of alcohol. They had goals and anyone could be arrested and incarcerated at a moments notice. The conditions within these goals were beyond horrendous. Mothers killed their babies because the babies would just slowly starve to death as there was no food for infants.

Given N. Korea has been that way for several generations now this sort of existence is the only life they know of. They probably think that they have it alright compared to the rest of the world because thats what the government tells them. The whole country is like a giant prison camp. Its hard to get information in and out of there. I dont know if this is true, but I once read that the N. Korean government tells its people that international aid (food and such) is given to them as a tribute to the 'great leader' rather than a form of charity. It wouldnt surprise me if it was true.

 

[The Old Medic]

The Communists in the former Soviet Union, China, East Germany, Rumania, Bulgaria, Albania, etc. murdered well in excess of 75,000,000 (yes, Seventy Five Million) people. The vast majority of this (about 73 million) was done in China (70 million) and the Soviet Union (about 23 million). Yet those countries are not only accepted in this world, but are held out as countries to emulate.

Hitler and his Nazi's were pikers in comparison. They were only able to murder some 12 million people! Yet they are considered totally and completely evil!

There is no valid reason at all, why the Soviets (and their Russian successors), and the Chinese are not just as widely condemned by the world. BUT, they have money, so it's "business as usual".

Yes

 

[Sal]

Alexander Solzhenitsyn

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like… if, during periods of mass arrests, … people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?

I think they are so weak it is beyond that now DB but I agree that life like that is worth killing or dying for in order to escape.

Given N. Korea has been that way for several generations now this sort of existence is the only life they know of. They probably think that they have it alright compared to the rest of the world because thats what the government tells them. The whole country is like a giant prison camp. Its hard to get information in and out of there. I dont know if this is true, but I once read that the N. Korean government tells its people that international aid (food and such) is given to them as a tribute to the 'great leader' rather than a form of charity. It wouldnt surprise me if it was true.

It is hard to imagine but when one is told something from childhood one believes it until one is enlightened somehow...there must be an underground though, because way back, they got their cameras into the goals and streets and they got them out of the country. It was hard to watch, like modern day concentration camps and of course the army is everywhere and they are strong because they have food. Food determines brain growth, ability to think and strength that gives will power. They are so beaten down. I can't even read it. Back then they had loud speakers that played constantly in the streets full of propaganda. Kim is a psychopath of the biggest order. They manged to kill leaders when oil is involved but NK is totally closed, I don't know how they could escape.

 

[WLDB]

The Communists in the former Soviet Union, China, East Germany, Rumania, Bulgaria, Albania, etc. murdered well in excess of 75,000,000 (yes, Seventy Five Million) people. The vast majority of this (about 73 million) was done in China (70 million) and the Soviet Union (about 23 million). Yet those countries are not only accepted in this world, but are held out as countries to emulate.

Seriously? Who is saying we should emulate China or the former Soviet Union or North Korea? That would be insane. Acceptance - sure, their nuclear weapons ensure that. There is no way to get rid of any of them without a nuclear war happening. No one is willing to accept that price, so they do business with them instead. Personally I wish we had absolutely nothing to do with countries like that when it comes to business or trade.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Because it's easier to quibble and shriek that a cop asking you a question or Obama "intimidating" insurance companies is "oppression" than to deal with the real thing. If you pay attention to Kim Jong Un, claims that Obama or Harper is a tyrant are revealed as the obvious hysterical exaggeration they are.

 

[gopher]

via bcf:


North Korea rights abuses move UN commission members to tears

We were not the first to report on the latest, appalling revelations on oppression in North Korea. We were among the first, though, and if you have not read this, you should be sitting down with a stiff drink before you do.


It concerns the fact that members of a UN Commission were moved to tears by revelations of the communist regime's practices that are so inhuman you can understand their reaction.

Read about that in the report linked to above. But here is a question: Why is North Korea's oppression not a top and ongoing news item all day and every day in the Western media?


http://www.thecommentator.com/article/4300/north_korea_rights_abuses_move_un_commission_members_to_tears



Blazing Cat Fur: Why is horrific oppression by communists ignored?

"Liberal" CBS covers reports of North Korean oppression:



Kim Jong Il: 10 weird facts, propaganda - World Watch - CBS News



"Liberal" ABC covers North Korean oppression and famine:


North Korea News, Photos and Videos - ABC News



"Liberal" NBC reports about North Korean propaganda campaign and its efforts to suppress truth:


Touring the bubble of North Korea - Video on NBCNews.com





As always, the right wing propagandists on this forum get it wrong yet again.

 

[tay]

Fear. The people don't rise up because of fear. Just like here but over there.

Fear and futility.

If you are overwhelmed by the size and power of the aggressor you are truly challenged................







China vows to silence Dalai Lama in Tibet


China’s ruling Communist Party aims to silence the voice of the Dalai Lama in his Tibetan homeland by tightening controls on media and the Internet, a top official said on Saturday.

The party’s top-ranking official in the Tibet region Chen Quanguo vowed to “ensure that the voices of hostile forces and the Dalai group are not seen or heard,” in an editorial published in a party journal called Qiushi.

Officials would “make sure that the voice of the party is heard and seen everywhere in this vast 120 million square kilometre region,” Chen wrote in the editorial.

China has worked for decades to control the spread of information in Tibet, but some Tibetans remain able to access non-official sources of information including from exiles abroad by using radio, television and the Internet.

But the party will attempt to stamp out access to such sources by creating party cells in some websites, confiscating satellite dishes and registering telephone and Internet users by name, among a host of other measures mentioned in the the article.

China calls Tibetan exiled spiritual leader the Dalai Lama a “wolf in sheep’s clothing” and accuses him of masterminding violent efforts to seek independence for Tibet.


more


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/02/china-vows-to-silence-dalai-lama-in-tibet/

 

[petros]

Communism is a dictatorship.

No it's not.

Bolsheviks, Maoist, Ho Chi Ming and Kim cults of personality are.

Real Communism has never been tried and so called "Lefties" like Harper don't even come close with his off the charts Social spending.

 

[Blackleaf]

In America and Canada we have the Christian Community
who are oppressive to a lot of groups including gays and others
oppression is oppression and it shouldn't come with a label
communist oppression is bad? Other oppression is alright?

If you think the Christians are "bad" to gays and other groups, just wait till the Muslims take over your countries.

Muslims really DO know how to deal with these people.

 

[CDNBear]

Muslims really DO know how to deal with these people.

Is that an endorsement?

 

[Sons of Liberty]

No it's not.

Bolsheviks, Maoist, Ho Chi Ming and Kim cults of personality are.

Real Communism has never been tried and so called "Lefties" like Harper don't even come close with his off the charts Social spending.

Yeah I know about the theoretical aspects of Marxism, you can only have it on a global scale, well thank God it hasn't happened. Communism cannot be implemented because our species is too young, maybe in a thousand years.

In the meantime, communism has been tried and tested in the countries we all know about and has not only failed, but has caused pain and misery in the tens of millions over the past century.

 

[pgs]

We have a number of oppressive groups right here at home.
condo nazis to churches to schools who think they can dictate
the lives of children both at school and increasingly at home.
There are all kinds of oppression. Communist States and the
religious fascist States like Iran are oppressive toward gays
and other religions. In Russia no longer Communist they are
oppressive to several groups including gays.
In America and Canada we have the Christian Community
who are oppressive to a lot of groups including gays and others
oppression is oppression and it shouldn't come with a label
communist oppression is bad? Other oppression is alright?

Are your Christian neighbours in the Okanagan oppressing you again Grumpy ? Maybe you better move to the coast .
Still you might find a church on every corner there as well. And gudwara's temples synagogs even mosques .
Those religious people must be evil eh .

Fear on the other hand is overcome when the oppression reaches a specific point.
In the west we are more and more polarized and we protest oppression from one
sector while we advocate oppressing others from another sector.
In some countries in the world the first thing liberated people do is oppress another
group. israel a nation founded as a safe haven from the oppression of others has
not exactly been kind to some of their neighbours. I am not anti Israel by any means
I am merely making a point. Oppression does not come only with Communism it
comes with ignorance and fear is at the very core of that thinking.

I believe that arabs and not jewish still have the vote in Israel . Why is that ?

 

[tay]

Well look it's simple North Korea has no oil or precious metals and they will fight back. Where's the money? Koreans are lazy and won't take responsibility for themselves why should Canada help them? Why don't they get jobs?

The problem wit NK is of course the indoctrination the people go through. It's an indoctrination only different then say Religions or Patriotic Pride but the same concept which is get them while they are young and they will likely never stray from that thought pattern.............

 

[Sons of Liberty]

The problem wit NK is of course the indoctrination the people go through. It's an indoctrination only different then say Religions or Patriotic Pride but the same concept which is get them while they are young and they will likely never stray from that thought pattern.............

Yeah same concept, in NK they teach kids how to kill Americans while in America they teach Christians to love thy neighbor, same brain washing. :roll:

 

[darkbeaver]

I think they are so weak it is beyond that now DB but I agree that life like that is worth killing or dying for in order to escape.

It is hard to imagine but when one is told something from childhood one believes it until one is enlightened somehow...there must be an underground though, because way back, they got their cameras into the goals and streets and they got them out of the country. It was hard to watch, like modern day concentration camps and of course the army is everywhere and they are strong because they have food. Food determines brain growth, ability to think and strength that gives will power. They are so beaten down. I can't even read it. Back then they had loud speakers that played constantly in the streets full of propaganda. Kim is a psychopath of the biggest order. They manged to kill leaders when oil is involved but NK is totally closed, I don't know how they could escape.

That may very well be the case in NK, we have no way of knowing though because our news and information in the west is without doubt as dishonest if not worse than almost anywhere else in the world. When I posted the quote I was thinking of us in the west more than the N Koreans. Maybe you think that's wild and unthinkable where we live, I don't, the economic indicators coupled with the horrific unemployment and the millions of desperate people of the western empire are already replicating the exact same scenario as has happened in every economic collapse of the last four centuries. There is no other way for our situation to unfold. What we have visited on other nations at the behest of the bankers and their puppet governments will come home to us. It's a well studied subject and there is no escape except the advice of AS be taken to heart.

The problem wit NK is of course the indoctrination the people go through. It's an indoctrination only different then say Religions or Patriotic Pride but the same concept which is get them while they are young and they will likely never stray from that thought pattern.............

I don't blame them at all. What was done to them during the Korean War was revolting and disgusting beyond bearing. The murder and destruction with chemical and biological agents was barbaric and loathsome. Love for Uncle Sham is wasted perhaps even for the American citizen who now in 2013 do not even have the loyalty of their elected politicians who have to a man sworn allegiance to and grovel at the feet of Zionist butchers. The USA is nobodies friend and nothing to be envied or emulated.

 

[WLDB]

Yeah same concept, in NK they teach kids how to kill Americans while in America they teach Christians to love thy neighbor, same brain washing. :roll:

Unless your neighbour happens to be gay.

 

[tay]

Yeah same concept, in NK they teach kids how to kill Americans while in America they teach Christians to love thy neighbor, same brain washing. :roll:

Don't fell so guilty. I didn't mention Christians or Americans.

I get it that Americans are myopic and Dominionist more so but those that claim to be of the Jesus sure are touchy............

 

[petros]

Yeah I know about the theoretical aspects of Marxism, you can only have it on a global scale, well thank God it hasn't happened. Communism cannot be implemented because our species is too young, maybe in a thousand years.

In the meantime, communism has been tried and tested in the countries we all know about and has not only failed, but has caused pain and misery in the tens of millions over the past century.

Totalitarianism was tried and tested and is still going on.