Why do you eat meat?

[Colpy]

You have a point, but, it's still better to have a chicken running in a pen, rather than kept all of its life in a 1 foot square box. I'd still rather eat grouse though.

Hey!

I was just using deer hunting as an example........my all-time favourite hunting is for ruffed grouse.

 

[talloola]

I haven't tried it. Will give it a whirl. I have an addiction to the White Spot Double Double (not the one on the ferries).

I would love a double whopper/cheese/light sauce with white spot fries, white spot burgers are ripoff
on meat, we had white spot (super burger ?) I think, but they are too expensive.

 

[Kreskin]

I would love a double whopper/cheese/light sauce with white spot fries, white spot burgers are ripoff
on meat, we had white spot (super burger ?) I think, but they are too expensive.

It is expensive. Triple O Sauce is like heroin.

 

[talloola]

It is expensive. Triple O Sauce is like heroin.

I have stopped using sauces in burgers, (maybe a teeny bit), so i'm not addicted to the
triple O anymore, it's a victory, try it. I finally just got irritated with White Spot, as I
think they just use their "name" to sell, and the amount of meat in the burger is criminal.

At quality foods, you can stand there and request whatever you want in the burger, and
watch them make it. They have them as a special sometimes, and you get a good burger,
with fries for about $4.50, they make their own patties instore.

 

[Colpy]

the poor guy that started this thread......I imagine he wanted a debate on the sinfulness of consuming our fured and feathered brethern.......instead he gets a discussion of which animal is more fun to kill.........and our favourite ways to devour flesh.

I love it!

PETA People Eating Tasty Animals

 

[eh1eh]

the poor guy that started this thread......I imagine he wanted a debate on the sinfulness of consuming our fured and feathered brethern.......instead he gets a discussion of which animal is more fun to kill.........and our favourite ways to devour flesh.

I love it!

PETA People Eating Tasty Animals

Mmmmm. Baby sheep, a nice bleeding medium rare steak... I could go on. Winter is the worst as it makes BBQ a little difficult in the cold. When it gets up to 0C out comes the meat and on goes the grill.
I love that PETA version you've got there Colpy.:happy11:

 

[s_lone]

I eat meat because:

Nature's not kind and cares nothing for rights, it cares only about reproductive success. It's a serious philosophical error to project our values onto it. So I will cheerfully contine to eat beef and pork and chicken and fish, and I will cheerfully continue to shoot ducks and geese and deer and catch and kill fish for my consumption.

I wouldn't kill them if I didn't intend to eat them. I wouldn't kill the carrots and potatoes in my garden either, if I didn't intend to eat them.

OK Dexter, you kill animals to eat them... that's fine.

But animals have no rights? We shouldn't even care about the the way they are treated? They do have a clear potential to suffer, maybe not fish, but at least cows and pigs... that seems pretty evident right?

 

[AndyF]

I would like to know why.

Indirectly because man evolved from a semi-scavenger stealing what he could from Mr. Saretooth's kill. And when the Ice age came, it helped him survive where little vegetation was. Eventually his digestive tract evolved to handle meat and vegetables and that is how we're made today.

Directly because has one poster said, nothing beats a 1inch thick sirloin Q'd to perfection.!!!!!!!:snorting:


AndyF

 

[Dexter Sinister]

But animals have no rights?

Right, except, as I said, what we choose to give them.

We shouldn't even care about the the way they are treated?

I didn't say that, or even hint at it. I said, among other things, "it's incumbent upon us not to make our food animals suffer unduly." Which is a long way ahead of the way nature arranges things. Most animals in the wild die rather unpleasantly from predation or disease.

 

[mapleleafgirl]

OK Dexter, you kill animals to eat them... that's fine.

But animals have no rights? We shouldn't even care about the the way they are treated? They do have a clear potential to suffer, maybe not fish, but at least cows and pigs... that seems pretty evident right?

animals have rights? uhm,, hello, theyre animals, not people. and most of them are food. some people take animals too far and try to pretend theyre little people. i mean, yeah, dont mistreat them, but dont pretend theyre equal to people either.

 

[Rawisbetter!]

Animals should have rights. Just because we are superior to them doesn't give us the right to do whatever we want to them. They have just as much right to be here as us.

 

[hermanntrude]

I eat meat because it tastes nice and it's a good way to get protein. I have no objection to the death of animals as long as people don't take some kind of sick pleasure in it.

 

[Rawisbetter!]

What if people killed each other, but they took no sick pleasure in it?

 

[selfactivated]

Think of it this way......your helping that soul up the karmic ladder.

 

[Tonington]

What if people killed each other, but they took no sick pleasure in it?

People do kill each other, every day it happens, but not as a means for meeting their bodies nutritional requirements, although there are bizarre cases of even that.

Animals have no more rights than we grant them, just as without a society you or I would have no rights. We would punish transgressions against one another through natural law in that case.

If your choice is to abstain from eating the flesh of other animals, that's fine, your choice. That said, I doubt very much that our brains could have developed to the point where we are even capable of formulating our thoughts enough to consider whethor or not it is wrong without consuming the protein rich flesh of other animals. The fact that we have canine teeth, that other primates eat meat, to me points out that it is natural for us to eat meat. Maybe not in large quantities like some people choose, but again thats their prerogative.

 

[hermanntrude]

rights are a human notion. and while i consider them very worthwhile, i can't really apply them to a chicken or a cow. although i do think they're worth some respect. it's well worth remembered when u stuff a peice of KFC into your greasy gob, that it was once alive and that you should be grateful for the nourishment as it's a luxury.

 

[Rawisbetter!]

"People do kill each other, every day it happens, but not as a means for meeting their bodies nutritional requirements, although there are bizarre cases of even that."


We don't need meat to survive.




"The fact that we have canine teeth, that other primates eat meat, to me points out that it is natural for us to eat meat."


That's no reason to support killing innocent animals.

 

[Tonington]

Right, we don't need to eat meat, but if we don't you have to supplement your diet to ensure you're getting the essential amino acids from another source. If we eat meat we don't have to change our eating habits to ensure our body is getting what it needs.

 

[hermanntrude]

we dont need meat to survive, I admit. But it's much easier to get the necessary protein from meat than by other means, and there's no reason to not eat it.

Innocent is another human concept. it suggests that an animal could do something right or wrong, which suggests it has a conscience. This is not true until you reach the simians at least. I dont eat monkeys or apes. Apes includes humans btw

 

[karrie]

Animals should have rights. Just because we are superior to them doesn't give us the right to do whatever we want to them. They have just as much right to be here as us.

Animals do have rights. They have the right to not be inhumanely treated on the way to the slaughter house.