Why Atheists Care About YOUR Religion
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I agree and I think the world needs more of that.
No one seems to mind pushy obsessed religious people but an atheist shows any backbone and terms like: racist, bigotry, hate, intolerance etc.. come pouring out yet it's hard for me to think of anything more full of those things than religion.
No one seems to mind pushy obsessed religious people but an atheist shows any backbone and terms like: racist, bigotry, hate, intolerance etc.. come pouring out yet it's hard for me to think of anything more full of those things than religion.
And I agree with you. This world does need more feisty people and it isn't just to keep the "faithful" reminded that they believe in hogwash, we need more feisty people to stand up to idiotic governments, too. Governments and religions simply get away with too much crap.
Cool, so the "too long, didn't watch " version is this:
She wants to be able to be gay, marry farm animals, drink booze and raise hell at bars at 5 am on Sundays next door to a church, and then top the evening's binge off with an abortion.
...while being allowed to spit on boy scouts and old ladies.
Sheesh...whats the big deal?
She wants to be able to be gay, marry farm animals, drink booze and raise hell at bars at 5 am on Sundays next door to a church, and then top the evening's binge off with an abortion.
...while being allowed to spit on boy scouts and old ladies.
Sheesh...whats the big deal?
...............Long as she burns a priest er two, my kinda gal..........
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Well, religion has its problems.......
But the scientific approach caused how many deaths in the 20th century? You know, the quest for the master race and of course, the quest for the perfect utopian godless communal society..........110, 150 million? Suffice to say all the religious wars of the last 2000 years don't approach......
And, I might add, this woman's freedom springs directly from judeao-Christian philosophy......read John Locke. And then find me a free nation that did NOT spring from judeao -Christian roots....there is one.........little place in the Himalayan mountains......we're still waiting for some truely useful political philosophy to spring from atheism.....I think Marxism has pretty well discredited itself.
And I'm waiting for the Atheists to do something for society besides whine and complain.....you know, work endlessly to end slavery, be the glue behind a civil rights or anti-war movement, or just get together to feed the homeless.........strange, you don't see many atheist Mother Teresas.
If you get my drift......
But the scientific approach caused how many deaths in the 20th century? You know, the quest for the master race and of course, the quest for the perfect utopian godless communal society..........110, 150 million? Suffice to say all the religious wars of the last 2000 years don't approach......
And, I might add, this woman's freedom springs directly from judeao-Christian philosophy......read John Locke. And then find me a free nation that did NOT spring from judeao -Christian roots....there is one.........little place in the Himalayan mountains......we're still waiting for some truely useful political philosophy to spring from atheism.....I think Marxism has pretty well discredited itself.
And I'm waiting for the Atheists to do something for society besides whine and complain.....you know, work endlessly to end slavery, be the glue behind a civil rights or anti-war movement, or just get together to feed the homeless.........strange, you don't see many atheist Mother Teresas.
If you get my drift......
Bill Maher was the host of the show Politically Incorrect......oddly enough, he is the most narrow-minded, blindered, politically correct individual I have ever had the misfortune to be confronted with.
What an ass!
If you think that, you aren't really listening to him. He says that everyone is entitled to an opinion, he just wishes people would admit their opinions aren't fact.
If you think it's politically correct to question the existence of God in the US, then you haven't been here recently!!! I live in liberal California and saying you're not a Christian will draw a lot of troublesome comments
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I'm not a believer, but I do some nice things. No, I haven't ended slavery or been Mother Teresa, but few people have even among the religious. I mean, have you personally? I'm betting we're both normal people who try to do what's right in our daily lives. That should be enough IMO. Religion, like atheism, is a neutral concept. Some people institute it well and I applaud them. Others don't and there is no point pretending otherwise. I do think religion is much less oppressive in Canada. I never felt pressured to believe in Jesus or that people would judge me badly if I didn't.
"Why atheists care about YOUR religion" boils down to the lunatic fringes trying to stomp all over the belief sets of the entire spectrum, and whether you're a Christian or an Atheist, I don't appreciate having your beliefs shoved down my throat. If someone's not willing to recognize the hypocrisy of it, I have no interest in dealing with them on the topic.
I couldn't watch the video as my connection is terribly slow.
However, I would like to say that as a very proud atheist I am opposed to what I call evangelical atheism. Why would a person trying to rid themselves of religious oppression seek to oppress others with their beliefs. That seems massively arrogant to me.
As much as I am sure there is no god(s) I could not possibly prove it to those who truly believe. For many, belief in a (or many) supreme being(s) gives their life meaning and it is just confrontational to argue with them. Arguments of this nature cannot be won. And if you could win such an argument what would that mean? Would you pull the foundation out from under a person who has a loved one in Heaven? Set adrift someone whose rudder throughout life has been the unshakable knowledge of god's love?
I believe what I believe and do not require others to validate my me. I only require the freedom to form my own opinions. I have that and am thankfull that I do, I am strong enough in my atheism that I can accept that there are differing opinions and beleifs.
To each their own.
However, I would like to say that as a very proud atheist I am opposed to what I call evangelical atheism. Why would a person trying to rid themselves of religious oppression seek to oppress others with their beliefs. That seems massively arrogant to me.
As much as I am sure there is no god(s) I could not possibly prove it to those who truly believe. For many, belief in a (or many) supreme being(s) gives their life meaning and it is just confrontational to argue with them. Arguments of this nature cannot be won. And if you could win such an argument what would that mean? Would you pull the foundation out from under a person who has a loved one in Heaven? Set adrift someone whose rudder throughout life has been the unshakable knowledge of god's love?
I believe what I believe and do not require others to validate my me. I only require the freedom to form my own opinions. I have that and am thankfull that I do, I am strong enough in my atheism that I can accept that there are differing opinions and beleifs.
To each their own.
I guess you would have to define a "religious" war. Iraq is partially a "religious" war.
WWII has a huge religious component
Virtually all wars prior to the 20th century had a religious connotation to them.
So without rigid definitions, it would be difficult to categorize what is religious and what is not
So your stats are at best suspect
the point I got out of it was not so much the care and concern that aetheists had for "the religious", but rather that "the religious" should keep to their church and quit trying to dictate how society behaves.
Remember the seperation of Church and State being one of the pillars of Democracy...
The unreligious should mind their own business also, by her own arguement.
But whatever..maybe she needs to grow some thicker skin. The religious folks don't seem to bother me all that much.
I think she just wanted to jiggle those enormous tatas on you tube ..and I applaud her for it. The mute button makes her presentation much more entertaining.
...Not sure where she got her facts from...but you do not have to declare your religion or lack thereof to hold public office in Texas..just as I thought more boob than brain.
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Heh, what?
Time to reread your history Colpy...
John Locke was most definitely NOT influenced by Judeo-Christian anything, his ideas were original and revolutionary, many of which fly directly in the face of Judeo-Christian dogma and convention...
John Locke may be the finest example of a true Free Thinker of his century, influencing an entire genre of the likes of Voltaire and Rousseau both of whom were avowed atheists...
United States of America - the founding fathers were none too keen on the church having any sort of power within their United States.
You don't see too many conservative Mother Teresas either...
If you get my drift...