Why are tea baggers white?

[SirJosephPorter]

You actually think a teenager is capable of making a intelligent choice as to whether to have a child or not? Do you think they though how they would support this child, or what the consequences to their lives would be raising a child as a single mom under 18, let alone under 15. I know some may criticize me for what I just said, but unless her Mom and or Dad help out she and that child are in for some very tough times. Just for the record I am not against abortion, just against that their is no (lower) age limit as to who can have it without permission from a parent or guardian.

No doubt parents will have plenty of input in a decision of this sort. A 15 year old very likely will take the advice of her parents as to whether she should keep the baby or she should have an abortion.

Which is fine, but the question is, should Larry Elder have an input in such matters? Not only have input, but should he be able to dictate to every teenager what choice she is allowed to make? Evidently Elder thinks so. You may not be against all abortions, but Larry Elder is. He wants to deny that teenage girl the option to have an abortion. I can understand her parents having an input as to whether she should have an abortion. I don’t see why Larry Elder should have any input in it.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

You are the one who keeps making comments about tea bagging being some sort of 'homosexual' activity. You must have a fixation about it, you're the one who keeps discussing it.

Quite so. I have told him many times that here in this forum teabagger simply means Tea Party supporter, nothing more. But he insists on keeping on with his absurd crusades against homosexuals. Well, let him.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

"You are the one who keeps making comments about tea bagging being some sort of 'homosexual' activity. You must have a fixation about it, you're the one who keeps discussing it"

TenPenny, tea-bagging IS a disgusting, depraved and sick practice, which is entirely in the domain of homosexuals.

You are wrong there, YJ. Heterosexuals can also participate in the activity. And how do you know that they don't?

 

[JLM]

"You are the one who keeps making comments about tea bagging being some sort of 'homosexual' activity. You must have a fixation about it, you're the one who keeps discussing it"

TenPenny, tea-bagging IS a disgusting, depraved and sick practice, which is entirely in the domain of homosexuals. And the "fixation" belongs to and owned by liberals who keep on using that expression.

My objection to using the terms "TEA-BAGGING" and "TEA-BAGGERS" is for that reason.

All the in sufferable jerks who have referred to and keep on referring to the peaceful protesters to higher taxes, the normal people who object to socialism/Marxism/Communism, promoted by the President as TEA-BAGGERS try to paint them as disgusting and depraved and sick as the homosexuals who revel in that practice.

I will voice my objection to decent people labelled as sick, disgusting and depraved homosexuals until they the sick, depraved and disgusting people stop besmirching them in such a vile manner, or I get banned, whichever comes first.

Y.J. Apparently there are 28 different definitions for the term (some disgusting as you point out, but not all) You must realize by now that this is just one of the idiosyncracies of the English language. See..............Urban Dictionary: teabagger

 

[Downhome_Woman]

Teabaggers are overwhelmingly white; there are very few blacks or Hispanics in the movement. Also, I remember seeing a poll that said that 4% of teabaggers are Democrats, 70% are Republicans.

It is essentially the far right Republican base, which is mad because after 12 years in power (where the far right said jump, and Republican Congress and President Bush jumped), it finds itself out of power.

You are walking on a slippery slope, SJP. You blithely quote q poll (you don't, however actually name its source, but in post #280 you repond to Curiosity:

Quoting Curiosity
Hadn't seen this one before - interesting topic - I went on a search because I had no answer and came up with this post on Google quoting Rasmussen....it is dated April 5, 2010 so it current as surveys go...

Obama vs. the Tea Party | CWEI Message Board Posts

Quoting one part of the survey:
The poll means nothing, Curiosity. People know very little about the Teabaggers. As time goes on, Americans will be aware of the extreme right views of the Teabaggers (e.g. many of them think that Obama is an illegal alien and must be deported to Kenya or to Indonesia), the racism, the homophobia inherent in the Tea Party movement (which was partly evident during the recent episode of shouting racist and homophobic epithets at Democratic politicians), the support for Tea Party will very likely plummet."

Of course I do realize that you are free to write and opine what you wish - as you have often said, it is YOUR opinion, but to negate one poll (which I must say, was as unsourced as your own)and then offer up an equally unsubstanciated poll? It lessens your credibility. Rather than sounding as if you are coming from a place of knowledge, you sound as if you are just 'sounding' off. But then again, maybe all you wish to do is to 'sound off', and your credibility is unimportant to you - if that is so, please disregard my remarks.

 

[Downhome_Woman]

I find these threads that get overloaded with generizations soon become somewhat boring. Does anyone else find it that way?

YES!!!! All Democrats/Republicans/Catholics/Protestants/Muslims are awesome/hell bound.
Thinks are either right or wrong, black or white - heaven forbid, there might be some middle ground or at least some REAL discussion. You're right. There are some people that post on these forums that are so entrenched in their ideology that the idea of even entertaining a slightly different idea is anathema. I find both the right and the left to be incredibly narrow in their thinking.

 

[JLM]

YES!!!! All Democrats/Republicans/Catholics/Protestants/Muslims are awesome/hell bound.
Thinks are either right or wrong, black or white - heaven forbid, there might be some middle ground or at least some REAL discussion. You're right. There are some people that post on these forums that are so entrenched in their ideology that the idea of even entertaining a slightly different idea is anathema. I find both the right and the left to be incredibly narrow in their thinking.

Yeah, you get these nut cases who sit behind their computer all day expounding on their little dream world. Maybe if they'd shut it down and go for a walk and have a coffee in a restaurant, they might catch on that the world is not like that. 99% of what 99% of people do, they do with no thought to politics or religion. We vote for whatever we think will do us the least amount of harm at the time- the average person doesn't belong to any party. But anyway it doesn't matter what the truth is, I'm sure the yammering will continue. :smile::smile:

 

[ironsides]

That is your opinion. I have already given my take on it. My take is that Tea Party is simply the far right Republican base, which is mad because they don’t have any power in Washington for the first time in 12 years. That is why they have taken to protesting in the streets and are resorting to bullying tactics, intimidation of Democratic politicians.

Just because you have an opinion doesn’t mean it’s correct.

 

[ironsides]

Why don't these people get jobs? Does Obama have to do everything in that country?

Fault Lines - Out of work in the US

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Sure, Obama has opened up lots of jobs: Burger King, Wendy'e etc.

He is destroying the private sector and building up the goverment. We have more goverment jobs available now than private sector ones.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Fault Lines - Out of work in the US

YouTube - Fault Lines - Out of work in the US


Sure, Obama has opened up lots of jobs: Burger King, Wendy'e etc.

He is destroying the private sector and building up the goverment. We have more goverment jobs available now than private sector ones.

When Obama came to office, the economy was on the verge of collapse, thanks to Bush and the Republicans. With Herculean efforts, Obama brought the economy back from the brink, and it is showing every sign of recovery. Even the unemployment, which was stubbornly refusing to drop, has started going down. For the first time in three years, the economy is creating jobs. In addition to creating more than 100,000 jobs in February, the January figure was revised upwards, so that in January there was net job creation, not job losses.

If economy keeps performing this way, if it keeps on creating jobs, Republicans may have tough time of it in November. They better hope and pray for a double dip recession, or perhaps even depression. While it will be disastrous for the country, it will be good news for Republicans.

 

[ironsides]

Must I remind you all again what Obama has caused.

YouTube - Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!!

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Must I remind you all again what Obama has caused.

What Obama has caused is for all to see. Booming stock market, house prices stabilized, employment on the rise, unemployment on the decrease. All the economic indicators (including employment) point to a recovering economy.

Unfortunately he has had to pay a heavy price for all this, in terms of ballooning budget deficit. But I don't think he had any choice, after the gigantic mess created by Republicans.

If Americans have any sense at all, they will keep the Congress in Democratic hands, so that the recovery may continue or two more years, so that unemployment keeps falling. Once the economy is on a stable footing, then attention could be turned to deficit reduction.

But if Republicans take control of the Congress in 2010, all the economic gains will be wiped out. Republicans have a terrible record when it comes to economic management. Besides, if Republicans take control of Congress in 2010, then 2011 will be a wasted year, the first thing Republicans will do is to start impeachment proceedings against Obama, and impeachment hearing will last most of 2011.

The won't succeed in removing Obama from office of course. But nothing will get done in 2011, nothing to help the economy, nothing to help those who are in financial trouble, nothing about immigration reform, there won't be any action on anything, for one year Congress will be at a standstill.

It remains to be seen if American people vote for continuing economic recovery or whether they vote to fall off a cliff (by electing Republicans).

 

[TenPenny]

Sure, Obama has opened up lots of jobs: Burger King, Wendy'e etc.

He is destroying the private sector and building up the goverment. We have more goverment jobs available now than private sector ones.

I guess that's why Honda and GM are hiring lots of people in Ontario, because the Wendy's and Burger King jobs in the US are so lucrative.

 

[ironsides]

What Obama has caused is for all to see. Booming stock market, house prices stabilized, employment on the rise, unemployment on the decrease. All the economic indicators (including employment) point to a recovering economy.

Unfortunately he has had to pay a heavy price for all this, in terms of ballooning budget deficit. But I don't think he had any choice, after the gigantic mess created by Republicans.

If Americans have any sense at all, they will keep the Congress in Democratic hands, so that the recovery may continue or two more years, so that unemployment keeps falling. Once the economy is on a stable footing, then attention could be turned to deficit reduction.

But if Republicans take control of the Congress in 2010, all the economic gains will be wiped out. Republicans have a terrible record when it comes to economic management. Besides, if Republicans take control of Congress in 2010, then 2011 will be a wasted year, the first thing Republicans will do is to start impeachment proceedings against Obama, and impeachment hearing will last most of 2011.

The won't succeed in removing Obama from office of course. But nothing will get done in 2011, nothing to help the economy, nothing to help those who are in financial trouble, nothing about immigration reform, there won't be any action on anything, for one year Congress will be at a standstill.

It remains to be seen if American people vote for continuing economic recovery or whether they vote to fall off a cliff (by electing Republicans).

You want him so much, take him please. Better yet, come on down here and live under his regime for a few years.

 

[ironsides]

I guess that's why Honda and GM are hiring lots of people in Ontario, because the Wendy's and Burger King jobs in the US are so lucrative.

And that is helping the U.S. how?

 

[Curiosity]

SirJoseph

I have to disagree on your bright happy praise of Obama - since he took office my savings for retirement have lost $300,000 in less than one year. Much of the funding was the contribution from my husband's employment before he died, but
as I am the "keeper" I have tried to manage it properly and it had increased under
my care - knowing little about the stock market I was proud I had been able to
enjoy success for at least five years watching the savings grow. I never touched that savings fund once. But the government did.

Now on to housing...half the weathervane of a healthy nation...the other half being jobs.

Friends owe more on their mortgages than their home is worth and are now giving up homes which they have paid for over periods of ten or more years and going into rental properties which enrich others or if they have also lost their jobs, moving back home with parents or relatives.

I think you are reading propaganda regarding the happy scene in the U.S. about
security and savings which to me is the backbone of a nation.

Rarely can people afford to save any more - not if they are to continue living in their homes, they have to dig deep and either pay off their mortgage before their
homes decline in worth even farther, and losing carefully earned savings in retirement plans such as IRA's for example, cause the elder generation more anxiety than necessary when they have contributed for their whole working lives as it is/was mandated by yes...the government.

These are but two symptoms of a very financially unhealthy society.

For whatever reasons the current government has interefered with some of the successful plans which have been going on for years in this nation under both political parties, the eggheads in Washington seem to have lost their way or are
choosing another "way" to lead us into depression.

 

[JLM]

Just because you have an opinion doesn’t mean it’s correct.

Very true

 

[JLM]

SirJoseph

I have to disagree on your bright happy praise of Obama - since he took office my savings for retirement have lost $300,000 in less than one year. Much of the funding was the contribution from my husband's employment before he died, but
as I am the "keeper" I have tried to manage it properly and it had increased under
my care - knowing little about the stock market I was proud I had been able to
enjoy success for at least five years watching the savings grow. I never touched that savings fund once. But the government did.

Now on to housing...half the weathervane of a healthy nation...the other half being jobs.

Friends owe more on their mortgages than their home is worth and are now giving up homes which they have paid for over periods of ten or more years and going into rental properties which enrich others or if they have also lost their jobs, moving back home with parents or relatives.

I think you are reading propaganda regarding the happy scene in the U.S. about
security and savings which to me is the backbone of a nation.

Rarely can people afford to save any more - not if they are to continue living in their homes, they have to dig deep and either pay off their mortgage before their
homes decline in worth even farther, and losing carefully earned savings in retirement plans such as IRA's for example, cause the elder generation more anxiety than necessary when they have contributed for their whole working lives as it is/was mandated by yes...the government.

These are but two symptoms of a very financially unhealthy society.

For whatever reasons the current government has interefered with some of the successful plans which have been going on for years in this nation under both political parties, the eggheads in Washington seem to have lost their way or are
choosing another "way" to lead us into depression.

Good morning Curio......... I kind of thought Obama was like a breath of fresh air, but like many on this forum who voice opinions about the U.S. I'm happy to admit that what we are seeing is only from a distance. I know the U.S. takes a lot of flack on their health care system from Canadians and they tend to paint it with a broad brush. I can easily see that you are pretty much in tune with things there, especially since you've been directly affected financially. I do however believe Obama deserves a little more time to get "the house in order". It didn't get that way in a year, so I doubt if it can be mended in a year........:smile:

 

[TenPenny]

SirJoseph

I have to disagree on your bright happy praise of Obama - since he took office my savings for retirement have lost $300,000 in less than one year. Much of the funding was the contribution from my husband's employment before he died, but
as I am the "keeper" I have tried to manage it properly and it had increased under
my care - knowing little about the stock market I was proud I had been able to
enjoy success for at least five years watching the savings grow. I never touched that savings fund once. But the government did.

If you managed to keep your retirement savings intact UNTIL Obama took office, you're a pretty astute investor, in which case I can't see how you can blame someone else for losing money when the markets have recovered as much as they have.

Jan 09, when Obama took office, the Dow was at 9000. Today, it's at 11000.

Between Oct 07 and Jan 09, the Dow went from 14000 to 9000. I doubt you can blame that on Obama.

 

[JLM]

If you managed to keep your retirement savings intact UNTIL Obama took office, you're a pretty astute investor, in which case I can't see how you can blame someone else for losing money when the markets have recovered as much as they have.

Jan 09, when Obama took office, the Dow was at 9000. Today, it's at 11000.

Between Oct 07 and Jan 09, the Dow went from 14000 to 9000. I doubt you can blame that on Obama.

Ten Penny- the Dow is just an average of a bunch of Industrial stocks and may have nothing to do with where Curio had her money invested.