Why Are So Many Christians So Un-Christian?
- Thread starter Cliffy
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That's fine. Could you elaborate with some verifiable facts or is this your opinion?
I'm always willing to learn new things
He never lived in Judea or practised their religion. He lived in Israel a whole different country and followed traditional Hebrew Torah beliefs.
It's all in the book.
It's all in the book.
Yes he was a Jew to some religious folk but not others
If Jesus was a Jew, why are we Catholic? | Catholic Answers
Did he live in Judea? Yes or no? Did he practice the religion of the Judeans? Did he like the Judeans? Why did God send him to put an end to Judean beliefs and return them to Mosaic laws?
Links are not answers.
Links are not answers.
Yup ... an observant "orthodox" Jew, he was and what we call "Christianity" was a Jewish sect food about the first 300 years, or so.
Sure couldn't prove anything by me except he apparently hung out around the Sea of Galilee which as far as I know was in Palestine which is now Israel as far as I know.
Ummmm No!!!
1) Jesus identified himself and his associates as Israelites, and his mission was directed to the House of Israel. He was identified by other Israelite insiders according to his Israelite family and lineage and by his place of birth and upbringing, Nazareth and Galilee. He was Yeshua bar Yoseph, an 'Israelite', a 'Galilean', a 'Nazarene from Nazareth of Galilee, but not a 'Judean' resident in Judea.
(2) Jesus never called himself a Ioudaios and was never designated as such by fellow Israelites. He was called, or thought of as, a Ioudaios only by non-Israelite outsiders whose terminology was consistent with Hellenistic and Roman practice, designating as 'Judean' all residents of Judea, together with all those connected to Judea by blood relations, Torah allegiance, patriotism, and loyalty to Judea, the holy city of Jerusalem and the Temple.
(3) His first followers were identified by fellow Israelites also as 'Galileans', 'Nazarenes', or members of 'the Way', but never as 'Judeans'.
(4) They too, like Jesus, viewed themselves as Israelites. They preferred 'Israel' and 'Israelite' as self-identifiers when speaking to the ingroup Israel and when addressing fellow disciples.
Quote the Bible. Find me 1 quote where Jesus calls himself or a disciple calls Jesus or himself a Jew.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Do you really believe this is a verifiable link? I gave up on it about the 2nd sentence proclaiming Mary to be a virgin and the birth of Jesus was the result of immaculate conception. Let us know when you find a living professional who can confirm this.
Just one. If you can find a Bible quote of Jesus or his insiders calling him a jew I will create a thread that honours your superior intellect. If you can't you make one that kisses my as$.
Deal? Are you man enough?