There are so many inconsistencies in organised religion, I am convinced the intolerance of criticism stems from a fear critics are correct.
Why are many Christians so intolerant of other religions and spiritual paths?
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Yes it is, but that's not atheism, and the rest of that, your claim and Zacharias', is preposterous BS, and certainly not what most atheists would say. Atheism is not a belief in no god, that's logically indefensible and any intelligent person knows it, Zacharias is just putting up a straw man. Theists define it that way so they can use the same criticisms against atheism that atheists use against them. Atheism is simply the position that the evidence and arguments put forward to support the claim that there is a god are insufficient to justify accepting it as true. Atheism is a religion like not watching movies is entertainment, it's not a belief at all, it's a refusal to believe. You can, can't you, understand the subtle but crucial difference between "I believe there isn't" and "I don't believe there is?"
If I possessed infinite knowledge, Dex I'm sure I would be able to follow your exalted thinking : )
Well Atheists are not confused- They want proof. They use logic to arrive at this conclusion.
Now faith and logic well therein lies the problem.
Those with faith or those that are Agnostic are at least open and reasonable. Agnostics not sure.
Myself I believe in a Creator.
Can anyone tell me what we had before the Big Bang. Oh yeah, nothing. Yep it all came from nothing.
Try to wrap your logic around that puppy.
Now faith and logic well therein lies the problem.
Those with faith or those that are Agnostic are at least open and reasonable. Agnostics not sure.
Myself I believe in a Creator.
Can anyone tell me what we had before the Big Bang. Oh yeah, nothing. Yep it all came from nothing.
Try to wrap your logic around that puppy.
No, it's the absence of truth as I know it.
Nothing exalted about it, it's Philosophy 101, but if you had infinite knowledge you'd be infinitely large, and I don't think you'd like that.
Only the hardline wingnuts. But then every Reliiogion has them and the same can be said about some Athiests.
They work along this line
1 God does not exist
2 I hate him.
Science has much better answers than that. Check out Brian Greene's book. The Hidden Reality, your knowledge is a little out of date.
Dex- What existed before the BB?
I also think that people that think we are alone in the universe should do some thinking on probabilities- Hundreds of billions of planets. Yep nothing out there.
That's a theist's deliberate misrepresentation--gerryh consistently gets it wrong too--of an argument that goes all the way back, at least in writing, to Epicurus, and is usually these days called the problem of evil, or the problem of suffering. The essence of it is that if a deity with the specified attributes exists there are certain logical consequences that follow and effects that should be visible in the world. If those consequences and effects are not seen, that counts as evidence against his existence, or at least against his having the specified attributes.
We don't know, but there are many plausible possibilities. Read the book.
Or evidence of the dimness of the witnesses. The evidence could be too exalted for the witnesses to recognize it : )
So people who believe in a God believe he was here first and made everything. Even the McRib.
People who don't believe in a God believe he doesn't exist and blame everything on man. Even the McRib.
People who don't believe in a God believe he doesn't exist and blame everything on man. Even the McRib.
Then of what possible value is it? Evidence that can't be detected can't count as evidence, it's useless.
“God has disclosed himself in descriptive terms that give us enough information (evidence) to be able to know who he is, and he has hidden enough (evidence) of himself for us to learn the balance between faith and reason.” (Ravi Zacharias)
Motar I do not believe that everyone feels that "their way" is the only way. I think that's what he is referring to. Some people believe that as long as your belief system harms no one else it's okay and that people find their own path that suits them.
The implication is that the problem may rest with the witnesses, Dex. The dimness may be self-inflicted : )
Agree, Sal. My post was simply to point out the inherent exclusiveness of religion, all religion.