Who's the Most Popular Modern President?

[petros]

Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack

The fact that Gorbachev got the Nobel Piss Prize from the communist Nobel Piss Prize committee for the collapse of the former Soviet Union, while Reagan was ignored by the same bunch of incompetents, is all the proof that any normal person needs that it was indeed, Reagan who put the legacy of Lenin to its well-deserved place: in the ash-heap of history.

After all the same bunch gave the now totally discredited piece of crap to Yasser Arafat, Al Gore and most glaringly to Barrack Hussain Obama.
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Yukon Jackass. It was worker forming unions that killed the USSR not some self diddling Yankee.

Yukon Jackass. It was worker forming unions that killed the USSR not some self diddling Yankee.

The one that really set it all off was a MINERS UNION under the lead of Mikhail Volynets.....LMAO The thing you hate the most....

 

[JLM]

Yukon Jackass. It was worker forming unions that killed the USSR not some self diddling Yankee.


The one that really set it all off was a MINERS UNION under the lead of Mikhail Volynets.....LMAO The thing you hate the most....

You mean a Union did something positive? :lol:

 

[YukonJack]

Yukon Jackass. It was worker forming unions that killed the USSR not some self diddling Yankee.


The one that really set it all off was a MINERS UNION under the lead of Mikhail Volynets.....LMAO The thing you hate the most....

petros, I must bow down in humility to your superior knowledge of history.

Of course, Poland and Solidarity and the Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II had nothing to to with it!

The only diddling Yankee (and I hate to use that expression, because it is no better than wop, kraut, Paki, ni66er or frog, but you set the bar pretty low) was Bill Clinton. Obama is not really a Yankee. Just look at his policies.

 

[petros]

Uzny mene Yukon Jack. Uzny mene!

 

[JLM]

petros, I must bow down in humility to your superior knowledge of history.

Of course, Poland and Solidarity and the Catholic Church and Pope John Paul II had nothing to to with it!

The only diddling Yankee (and I hate to use that expression, because it is no better than wop, kraut, Paki, ni66er or frog, but you set the bar pretty low) was Bill Clinton. Obama is not really a Yankee. Just look at his policies.

Why was it necessary to misspell the "N" word yet all the other derogatory terms were spelt correctly (more or less) ? :lol:

 

[YukonJack]

Uzny mene Yukon Jack. Uzny mene!

Congratulations, petros! Your most intelligent post, ever.

Too bad it is not understood by humans.

Why was it necessary to misspell the "N" word yet all the other derogatory terms were spelt correctly (more or less) ? :lol:

Because i did not have a desire to be banned.

 

[JLM]

Congratulations, petros! Your most intelligent post, ever.

Too bad it is not understood by humans.



Because i did not have a desire to be banned.

Actually, Y.J. I didn't ask that question to admonish you but more to point out just how hypocritical society is - I often wonder how many Blacks get insulted when Newfies are the brunt of so many jokes (seemingly properly so) when they are excluded. :-(

 

[Avro]

Actually, Y.J. I didn't ask that question to admonish you but more to point out just how hypocritical society is - I often wonder how many Blacks get insulted when Newfies are the brunt of so many jokes (seemingly properly so) when they are excluded. :-(

Firstly, how do you know that people making newfie jokes aren't making black jokes?

Secondly, why did you use the term "N word"?

You seem to think a guy dressed in KKK attire towing someone in black face around with a rope all in good fun.

...but don't touch those diddling priests.

 

[talloola]

Kennedy had planned to back out of 'nam after the next election, but that idea was cut short.

Still, I think if Kennedy had lived, his ugly side and behavior would have come out, the press would have stopped turning a blind eye to his shenanigans, both personal and political. He was pretty much the last president where the press more or less decided to gloss over things, after that the press developed much more of a cut throat attitude toward politicians, which is actually a good thing.

We were aware of the private life of kennedy early on, but unlike clinton he didn't bring it into the
oval office, but met his women elsewhere, he was not a sleezy president, but he was an unfaithful husband
and I wonder, how many politicians are faithful in their marriages.

My interest in kennedy separates his private life from his presidency, as I see where he brought out
so many young people, who took an interest in their counry, politically, and the people felt good
about their country because of him, and once he was assassinated, then robert kennedy, martin luther
king, the young people turned their back, and the mood changed drastically.

The press could never accuse anyone of being sleezy, (pot calling kettle black).

 

[Colpy]

Oh no no no no. Khruschev was a Ukrainian and he gave Ukrainians independance which led to strike after strike after strike.

Look it up. It wasn't the arms race. It was Ukrainian workers striking.

It was a combination of factors that were pushing the Soviet Union into a financial and military corner. Unrest both regionally within the USSR and the Warsaw Pact.....mostly due to worsening economic conditions.

Gorbachev was desperately seeking an out, a way to maintain the system, a way to ease the unspeakable burden of the Soviet military machine so he could turn saved resources to trying to lessen economic problems.

Where Reagan deserves credit is that he refused the opportunity to save the USSR by backing off. He maintained the pressure.........he saw no reason (correctly) to throw a life line to the Evil Empire that had enslaved so much of Europe.....

Where Gorbachev deserves credit is that he understood what was going on, and that he had only two options......try to gradually release the grip of the USSR on its neighbours.........or come out fighting, invade Poland, introduce a new wave of Soviet repression.....and he chose the high road.

What few people know about Ronnie is that he was actually willing to back off.......but ONLY if both sides COMPLETELY disposed of their nuclear arsenals....the Zero Option. And yes, he was completely serious, he hated the entire concept of nuclear weapons.

Gorbachev was not in a position to do so, the Soviet military would have rebelled.

 

[Avro]

Where Reagan failed is he pushed forward the relationship with the US economy and military spending, piling up debt with a socialist premise.

Iran/contra and savings & loan weren't bright spots either.

Honourary mention to Bush Sr.

I'd love to hear the reason for this.

 

[Colpy]

Where Reagan failed is he pushed forward the relationship with the US economy and military spending, piling up debt with a socialist premise.

Iran/contra and savings & loan weren't bright spots either.



I'd love to hear the reason for this.

You will notice Ronnie was not on my list of favourites......nothing astounds me more than the fact he will be remembered as a great president.....despite savings and loans, huge debt, Iran-Contra, and the absolutely idiotic idea that you create a just society by making the rich richer....huh????

But he did restore American confidence, and he did help break the back of the USSR....no denying it.

I just like George Sr.,........the real deal..........no particular reason beyond that.

 

[Avro]

You will notice Ronnie was not on my list of favourites......nothing astounds me more than the fact he will be remembered as a great president.....despite savings and loans, huge debt, Iran-Contra, and the absolutely idiotic idea that you create a just society by making the rich richer....huh????

But he did restore American confidence, and he did help break the back of the USSR....no denying it.

I just like George Sr.,........the real deal..........no particular reason beyond that.

The real deal?

What does that even mean?

Read my lips?

Incubators?

Green lighted Iraq?

Barf?

Saudi buisness dealings?

Reccession?

Iran Contra?



Etc etc etc.....?

 

[coldstream]

I think if you define modern as starting in 1900 you would have to deem Franklin Roosevelt as the greatest U.S President in the modern era. He is held in high disregard by Republicans and Libertarians because he essentially instigated the era of 'big government' and programs to distribute wealth more equitably, as well as leading the war against fascism. Great leaders are seldom the most popular however, since they tend to be the most polarizing.

Kennedy still has the Camelot aura about him, but it is difficult to name any lasting legacy that was begun in his presidency.

Frankly there has been a litany of mediocrities in the job since. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2 and now Obama. I didn't include Johnson because imho he was the last U.S. President who had a firm grasp on how economies really worked, and by far was the most instrumental in implementing Civil Rights for black Americans. Vietnam destroyed his presidency, and his Great Society, which made him atleast as tragic a figure as Kennedy.

Reagan and Clinton were the most homespun and folksy, which often leads to popularity, but it would be a mistake to confuse that with competence.

 

[gopher]

''-Democrats , JFK and his younger brother had an affair with M. Monroe - they were both shot to death ..Lord have mercy on their souls.
- the other one, ( Clinton) had an oral sex ,with a white house employee, in the oval office - this democrat is still alive''

Ford supported Suharto who killed more people than did Saddam.

Reagan supported Central American Nazi General Rios-Montt who committed Hitlerian style genocide.

Bush I invaded Kuwait.

Bush II invaded Iraq and Afghanistan.


If there is a just god anywhere he will reserve a special place in hell for these types.

 

[petros]

You mean a Union did something positive? :lol:

The United States is a Union.

Congratulations, petros! Your most intelligent post, ever.
Too bad it is not understood by humans.

And that is why you know exactly what it means? Pucker up!

 

[JLM]

Firstly, how do you know that people making newfie jokes aren't making black jokes?

Secondly, why did you use the term "N word"?

You seem to think a guy dressed in KKK attire towing someone in black face around with a rope all in good fun.

...but don't touch those diddling priests.

It ain't rocket science Avro (but sometimes I make an exception for the mentally challenged............oops I'm being politically correct again...............................stupid)

I've had 10 times the number of Newfie jokes in my email as black jokes
"N word" appears to be universally understood....................you have to consider your listening audience.
The third I don't recall unless perhaps it was in the context of a joke.
Are you a "diddling priest"? :lol:

 

[petros]

Ford supported Suharto who killed more people than did Saddam.

As did Canada.

 

[JLM]

We were aware of the private life of kennedy early on, but unlike clinton he didn't bring it into the
oval office, but met his women elsewhere, he was not a sleezy president, but he was an unfaithful husband
and I wonder, how many politicians are faithful in their marriages.

My interest in kennedy separates his private life from his presidency, as I see where he brought out
so many young people, who took an interest in their counry, politically, and the people felt good
about their country because of him, and once he was assassinated, then robert kennedy, martin luther
king, the young people turned their back, and the mood changed drastically.

The press could never accuse anyone of being sleezy, (pot calling kettle black).

Good points Talloola.

 

[petros]

Which prez was the first to embrace the Frankfurt Schol and started Cultural Marxism in America?


By the looks of things they are almost done what they needed to do.


Cultural Marxism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That would be FDR would it not?