Who Cares, we hate Canada

[SaintLucifer]

Re: RE: Who Cares, we hate Canada

Personally, I don't have a problem with immigration from third world nations, in fact I'd like to see us take MORE real refugees, and fewer people who are buying their way into Canada.

That said, I have a real problem with the multicultural ideal.......NO!

These people do NOT want to come here so they can live in exactly the same way they did in the old country. If they did, why would they come?

Immigrants MUST assimilate. The MUST learn English or French. They MUST fully accept the secular nature of our society. They MUST respect the rule of law, and our system of government. And, above all, they MUST leave their factionalism, their wars, their hatreds behind them.

If not, out you go.

And I don't give a damn if we send you back to a nation that has a firing squad waiting on the airport tarmac just for you.

Nor do I give a damn if you have jumped through the hoops to become a Canadian citizen on paper.

I kind of agree with Colphy on this one however I think "assimilate" is a hard word to use. I think many of his points make sence, like learning french or english and accepting most of the laws of our seculer society. However I do believe we should respect there traditions as long as it doesn't interfear with our own.

With people who are anti-immigration, or accepting refugees, just think about it, if Canada every persecuted you on your beliefs and you were looking at death for just believng in something Canada didn't agree with. Would you not be hopeful in a country take you in.

Anyhow do I think Canada is too "politically correct". In some sences we have become too extreme with doing the right thing. to the point of doing the wrong thing. We fought for a seculer nation and we find that the same forces which have given us this great nation are allowing none-seculer beliefs to out wt our seculer beliefs, just as long as they come from another nation or tradition.

I believe like any Libertarian that as long as your belief does not harm others, go pray to the goat god or whatever. But there's a point when it does and endangourse others. This is when our seculer nation is supposed to step in and say NO, and that you must follow OUR norms. Such as not bringing Swords or knifes, daggers or what not to school. This is a seculer belief not a christian one which we as Canadians have accepted as a norm.

There is nothing I abhor in this world more than a Libertarian except perhaps socialists/communists and social liberals.

 

[SaintLucifer]

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Christian fanatics? I have never heard of such a thing.

Apparently you never watch the news or you choose to ignore all the times a christian Fanatic has attacked an abortion clinic. Or everytime a Christian fanatic protests gays at gay funerals ( ie most recently in the US when a crazy religious women protested a soliders funeral because he was gay.)

I'm just sayin is all.... 8O

Ever heard of a 'Christian fanatic' running into those same abortion clinics or gay events with bombs strapped upon their person? Your discussion is thus rendered completely pointless.

Note the emphasis on protest as in stand there and shout at people insulting them with all manner of words as opposed to Muslims running into innocent civilians with bombs strapped upon their person. Are you capable of seeing the difference? When was the last time a 'Christian fanatic' brought down say two tall towers like the World Trade Center? I would suggest you please refrain from making such ridiculous comparisons in future. Thank you.

 

[Kreskin]

Since when did strapping a bomb to one's back become the only definition of a fanatic?

 

[SaintLucifer]

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Since when did strapping a bomb to one's back become the only definition of a fanatic?

You completely missed the point.There is a world of difference between a 'Christian fanatic' and a 'Muslim fanatic'. Huge difference. I mean huge to the point they cannot be compared because to attempt this is utterly ridiculous.

 

[Kreskin]

So, as long as the Christian fanatic blows up abortion clinics and kills people, without killing himself, he's someone to introduce to mom?

 

[SaintLucifer]

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So, as long as the Christian fanatic blows up abortion clinics and kills people, without killing himself, he's someone to introduce to mom?

Proof please. Thank you.

 

[Kreskin]

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So, as long as the Christian fanatic blows up abortion clinics and kills people, without killing himself, he's someone to introduce to mom?

Proof please. Thank you.

Proof they aren't liberals?

 

[Freethinker]

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So, as long as the Christian fanatic blows up abortion clinics and kills people, without killing himself, he's someone to introduce to mom?

Proof please. Thank you.

Murderer of abortion doctor expects 'great reward' in heaven
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3944/is_200310/ai_n9312965

Is this close enough? I also saw the interview with Paul Hills priest. He was cut from the same exact cloth. He essentially gave the same tacit support for the act of religiously inspired murders that Islmaic Imams do.

I for one see no difference between different types of religious murdering fanatics. The important part to note is that these individuals are not lone wolf freaks. They are the the peak of the triangle of organized groups of hate spewing religious fanatics.

There may be less christian (than muslim) fanatics murdering people, but there are still too many in my book. And it is the culture of religious based hate that supports it.

Another (shooting seems more popular):
http://www.courttv.com/trials/kopp/

A complete overview:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm

 

[LittleRunningGag]

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There is nothing I abhor in this world more than a Libertarian except perhaps socialists/communists and social liberals.

No kidding! Who the hell do those libertarians think they are?!? Going around, telling people to live and let live. Advocating personal responsibility. Preaching tolerance, and keeping good Christians from exercising their moral authority to govern and force the heathans follow the true teachings of the church.

Its those pricks stopping us from sending all the fags to re-education camps, and keeping those babykilling abortionists out of jail where they belong!

 

[SaintLucifer]

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There is nothing I abhor in this world more than a Libertarian except perhaps socialists/communists and social liberals.

No kidding! Who the hell do those libertarians think they are?!? Going around, telling people to live and let live. Advocating personal responsibility. Preaching tolerance, and keeping good Christians from exercising their moral authority to govern and force the heathans follow the true teachings of the church.

Its those pricks stopping us from sending all the fags to re-education camps, and keeping those babykilling abortionists out of jail where they belong!

Libertarianism = chaos. Fascism = order.

Thank you for your attention.

 

[SaintLucifer]

Re: RE: Who Cares, we hate Canada

So, as long as the Christian fanatic blows up abortion clinics and kills people, without killing himself, he's someone to introduce to mom?

Proof please. Thank you.

Murderer of abortion doctor expects 'great reward' in heaven
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3944/is_200310/ai_n9312965

Is this close enough? I also saw the interview with Paul Hills priest. He was cut from the same exact cloth. He essentially gave the same tacit support for the act of religiously inspired murders that Islmaic Imams do.

I for one see no difference between different types of religious murdering fanatics. The important part to note is that these individuals are not lone wolf freaks. They are the the peak of the triangle of organized groups of hate spewing religious fanatics.

There may be less christian (than muslim) fanatics murdering people, but there are still too many in my book. And it is the culture of religious based hate that supports it.

Another (shooting seems more popular):
http://www.courttv.com/trials/kopp/

A complete overview:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_viol.htm

That is all you came up with? You are comparing that with Muslim fanatics? Tell me, is that weed you smoking as good as I seem to think it is? It must be for you to post such ridiculous statements.

 

[Nikki]

Christian extremist volume is down, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exsit. Presently the Catholic Church is causing the deaths of millions of people in Africa by not allowing condom use. But then again they are just Africans they aren't real people right? :roll:

I also find it humerous that you think those abortion doctors lives mean less then the lives of all those people who died in 9/11.

Just because Christian extremists aren't taking their own lives when they take others lives this does not make them better them muslim extremists this makes them smarter then muslim extremists.

Besides you said that Christian extremists do not exsist, this is clearly not the case.

Right now is the muslim extremists time but Christians had their rein of terror as well. The crusades for example.

 

[Nikki]

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So, as long as the Christian fanatic blows up abortion clinics and kills people, without killing himself, he's someone to introduce to mom?

Didn't you know it's all the rage. :lol:

 

[Nikki]

Re: RE: Who Cares, we hate Canada

Christian fanatics? I have never heard of such a thing.

Apparently you never watch the news or you choose to ignore all the times a christian Fanatic has attacked an abortion clinic. Or everytime a Christian fanatic protests gays at gay funerals ( ie most recently in the US when a crazy religious women protested a soliders funeral because he was gay.)

I'm just sayin is all.... 8O

Ever heard of a 'Christian fanatic' running into those same abortion clinics or gay events with bombs strapped upon their person? Your discussion is thus rendered completely pointless.

Note the emphasis on protest as in stand there and shout at people insulting them with all manner of words as opposed to Muslims running into innocent civilians with bombs strapped upon their person. Are you capable of seeing the difference? When was the last time a 'Christian fanatic' brought down say two tall towers like the World Trade Center? I would suggest you please refrain from making such ridiculous comparisons in future. Thank you.

Nope just armed with snipper rifles. But that makes it ok doesn't it? :roll:

 

[SaintLucifer]

Christian extremist volume is down, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exsit. Presently the Catholic Church is causing the deaths of millions of people in Africa by not allowing condom use. But then again they are just Africans they aren't real people right? :roll:

I also find it humerous that you think those abortion doctors lives mean less then the lives of all those people who died in 9/11.

Just because Christian extremists aren't taking their own lives when they take others lives this does not make them better them muslim extremists this makes them smarter then muslim extremists.

Besides you said that Christian extremists do not exsist, this is clearly not the case.

Right now is the muslim extremists time but Christians had their rein of terror as well. The crusades for example.

The Crusades which the Muslims started. Christian extremism does not exist. Those numbers mean nothing, not even a blip on anyone's radar. They are just too small therefore there is no extremism.

The abortion doctors were not so 'innocent'. In the eyes of 'Christian extremists' (your words) they were murderers of innocent babies. Now tell me, what were the 3,000 people to Muslim extremists? They were innocent civilians so how did they represent the enemy? They do not therefore the extremists are murderers. Do not attempt to compare the two because it is absurd.

 

[Nikki]

Christian extremist volume is down, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exsit. Presently the Catholic Church is causing the deaths of millions of people in Africa by not allowing condom use. But then again they are just Africans they aren't real people right? :roll:

I also find it humerous that you think those abortion doctors lives mean less then the lives of all those people who died in 9/11.

Just because Christian extremists aren't taking their own lives when they take others lives this does not make them better them muslim extremists this makes them smarter then muslim extremists.

Besides you said that Christian extremists do not exsist, this is clearly not the case.

Right now is the muslim extremists time but Christians had their rein of terror as well. The crusades for example.

The Crusades which the Muslims started. Christian extremism does not exist. Those numbers mean nothing, not even a blip on anyone's radar. They are just too small therefore there is no extremism.

The abortion doctors were not so 'innocent'. In the eyes of 'Christian extremists' (your words) they were murderers of innocent babies. Now tell me, what were the 3,000 people to Muslim extremists? They were innocent civilians so how did they represent the enemy? They do not therefore the extremists are murderers. Do not attempt to compare the two because it is absurd.

And you are a moron. You are obviously a Christian nutcase. How anyone can defend any relgious extremist of any kind is beyond me. Do you defend Hitler too?

In the eyes of those muslim extremists Americans are commiting crimes against their religion so that must make it ok.

Because the muslims started the crusades that makes it alright? It makes the slaughter ok? Your crazy.


Abortion doctors are innocent. In the eyes of the law those "babies" aren't living beings. What a mother decides to do with the mass growing inside of her is none of yours or anyone elses business. Those christian extremists will be going to hell for judging others and playing God.

You are everything that is wrong with the world today.

EDIT: I love you how compltely ignore the fact that the church is knowingly spreading the disease of AIDS in Africa and killing millions. But this isn't an extremist event is it? :roll:

 

[SaintLucifer]

Christian extremist volume is down, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exsit. Presently the Catholic Church is causing the deaths of millions of people in Africa by not allowing condom use. But then again they are just Africans they aren't real people right? :roll:

I also find it humerous that you think those abortion doctors lives mean less then the lives of all those people who died in 9/11.

Just because Christian extremists aren't taking their own lives when they take others lives this does not make them better them muslim extremists this makes them smarter then muslim extremists.

Besides you said that Christian extremists do not exsist, this is clearly not the case.

Right now is the muslim extremists time but Christians had their rein of terror as well. The crusades for example.

The Crusades which the Muslims started. Christian extremism does not exist. Those numbers mean nothing, not even a blip on anyone's radar. They are just too small therefore there is no extremism.

The abortion doctors were not so 'innocent'. In the eyes of 'Christian extremists' (your words) they were murderers of innocent babies. Now tell me, what were the 3,000 people to Muslim extremists? They were innocent civilians so how did they represent the enemy? They do not therefore the extremists are murderers. Do not attempt to compare the two because it is absurd.

And you are a moron. You are obviously a Christian nutcase. How anyone can defend any relgious extremist of any kind is beyond me. Do you defend Hitler too?

In the eyes of those muslim extremists Americans are commiting crimes against their religion so that must make it ok.

Because the muslims started the crusades that makes it alright? It makes the slaughter ok? Your crazy.


Abortion doctors are innocent. In the eyes of the law those "babies" aren't living beings. What a mother decides to do with the mass growing inside of her is none of yours or anyone elses business. Those christian extremists will be going to hell for judging others and playing God.

You are everything that is wrong with the world today.

EDIT: I love you how compltely ignore the fact that the church is knowingly spreading the disease of AIDS in Africa and killing millions. But this isn't an extremist event is it? :roll:

Let me see. The Africans have unprotected sex causing the spread of AIDS and you blame the Catholics. Will you blame the Catholics for their having starved to death? According to your logic the Catholics pointed their guns at the heads of Africans and told them 'you must have unprotected sex or we will shoot you'. Is this what you are saying? They have sex but blame the Catholics? What does Catholicism have to do with it anyway? They are not Catholic anyway. Let the Africans take responsibilities for their own actions just for once. Just the one time rather than pointing the finger at the white man once again as always. The Africans breed like rabbits yet you blame the white man? Christ on a stick. You must be a liberal socialist. Your ilk does not care to take responsibility for your own actions.

Those Americans going about their daily routines at work in the WTC were the enemy? Whatever did they do to the Muslims? They barely knew they even existed. Yet you claim they committed atrocities against their religion. Joe Blow working on the elevators committed atrocities against the Muslims? He probably never met a Muslim in his entire life nor did he care if he ever did or not.

Nice of you to admit the Muslims started the wars of the Crusades. You got something right for once. You reap what you sow. They deserved everything they got. According to your logic it was wrong of my ancestors to bitchslap Germany right down to defeat simply because Germany started WWI and WWII. They started both wars and twice we bitchslapped them. There are people like you who claim they did not deserve their fate. WTF? My family should have sat back and let Hitler waltz into Britain? Pfft! Not going to happen. My people have never been invaded before and we were not about to let it start happening.

I never said the abortion doctors were wrong. Read my posts again. I said the Christians who attacked them were wrong. These were not 'extremists' out to get them a la Muslims. These were Christians with a screw loose. Nothing more. Yes I agree that what happens inside a mother's body is her own business. When did I state otherwise? I said it was Christians who were against abortion. I never pointed out my own position. The discussion was about Christians after all. I should like to remind you once again that I am an atheist who believes in the destruction of all religions. All of them. Not just Islam. Every single religion that exists.

 

[Freethinker]

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That is all you came up with? You are comparing that with Muslim fanatics? Tell me, is that weed you smoking as good as I seem to think it is? It must be for you to post such ridiculous statements.

First you stated there was no such thing. Then someone asked about abortion clinic bombers, you asked for proof. I provided the proof that there was indeed Christian fanatics and they blow up abortion clinics and shoot abortion doctors as proof.

There is a total correspondence between the way of thinking between the christian fanatic and the muslim fanatic. Both are willing to kill thinking they are doing gods good work. Both expect gods reward for murder.

Your inability to grasp the similarity points to the same kind of denial we see in the Muslim community. Thus the circle is completed. From reward by god fanatic murderers, to denial and tacit support by wacko apologists.

 

[Nikki]

Let me see. The Africans have unprotected sex causing the spread of AIDS and you blame the Catholics. Will you blame the Catholics for their having starved to death? According to your logic the Catholics pointed their guns at the heads of Africans and told them 'you must have unprotected sex or we will shoot you'. Is this what you are saying? They have sex but blame the Catholics? What does Catholicism have to do with it anyway? They are not Catholic anyway. Let the Africans take responsibilities for their own actions just for once. Just the one time rather than pointing the finger at the white man once again as always. The Africans breed like rabbits yet you blame the white man? Christ on a stick. You must be a liberal socialist. Your ilk does not care to take responsibility for your own actions.

I am not blaming the catholics for the Africans having sex dumbass. I am blaming the Catholic Church for not allowing them to have Birth Control. There is now way for an entire civilization to just not have sex.

Those Americans going about their daily routines at work in the WTC were the enemy? Whatever did they do to the Muslims? They barely knew they even existed. Yet you claim they committed atrocities against their religion.

No I didn't I said that is how the muslim extremists see it. OMG did you even read the F***ing post?

Nice of you to admit the Muslims started the wars of the Crusades. You got something right for once. You reap what you sow.

I mostly just don't feel like arguing with you. I don't think it was right on either side.

They deserved everything they got. According to your logic it was wrong of my ancestors to bitchslap Germany right down to defeat simply because Germany started WWI and WWII. They started both wars and twice we bitchslapped them.

Actually, dumbass, the reason that ww1 started was because an AUSTRIAN assasinated fernand. It had nothing to do with Germany. Then Germany got blamed for everything because they lost. Go figure the germans were pissed. That allowed the Rise of Hitler. Which, by the way, was the Allies own fault because they kept appeasing him thinking he would go away because they were dumbass's.
There are people like you who claim they did not deserve their fate. WTF? My family should have sat back and let Hitler waltz into Britain? Pfft! Not going to happen. My people have never been invaded before and we were not about to let it start happening.

wtf are you talking about? Why would someone let hitler waltz in? Again did you read my post i said and quote: DO YOU DEFEND HITLER TOO?

I never said the abortion doctors were wrong. Read my posts again. I said the Christians who attacked them were wrong. These were not 'extremists' out to get them a la Muslims. These were Christians with a screw loose. Nothing more. Yes I agree that what happens inside a mother's body is her own business. When did I state otherwise? I said it was Christians who were against abortion. I never pointed out my own position. The discussion was about Christians after all. I should like to remind you once again that I am an atheist who believes in the destruction of all religions. All of them. Not just Islam. Every single religion that exists.

So how is that different from a muslim extremists who blames "Americans"? The Muslim extremists blames "americans" the Christian extremists blames " abortion doctor.

 

[Said1]

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EDIT: I love you how compltely ignore the fact that the church is knowingly spreading the disease of AIDS in Africa and killing millions. But this isn't an extremist event is it? :roll:

I love this comment. Totally ridiculous, as in deserving of ridicule. The church is not guilty of anything by preaching abstinence and MONOGOMY according to their doctorine. This may not be our cup of tea; however, there are plenty of NGOs passing out condoms in Africa at present. Christian churches (be it evangelical, catholic and so on) are under no obligation to against their beliefs, thus knowingly spreading HIV and killing millions.