Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

Semperfi_dani

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RE: Who are the next pote

I am not saying that Trudeau was not great. But there is a fundamental split in he Liberal Party (that has been there for a loong time). The best example of that split is what I refer to as Pearson's boys (Trudeau, Chretien) and those that follow in that legacy ..particularly the one set out by Trudeau. Than there is the more conservative types like Martin and those that that don't suscripe the the Trudeau Legacy.

Which "liberal" is more successful both in the party and in the country is the successors of Trudeau, and now Chretien. As much as those try to distance themselves from Chretien..ultimately, the next Liberal leader that actually wins an election (presuming Paul Martin does not win this one) will be in that Trudeau/Chretien mold.

I just thought of another possible candidate.....Justin Trudeau? ...hmmmm. Maybe long term off, but it very well could be 5-10 years from now that an opportunity would come again for the Liberals if the Cons win the majority government, back to back no less.
 

the caracal kid

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Semper,

you just gave me a nightmare! I had the flash image of an election with Ben Mulroney vs Justin Trudeau as the main leaders.

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Perhaps it is time for Spongebob Squarepants for one party and Tickle-me-Elmo for the other?

The system is too far gone to repair. We need a revolution.
 

Freethinker

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Re: RE: Who are the next pote

Semperfi_dani said:
I am not saying that Trudeau was not great. But there is a fundamental split in he Liberal Party (that has been there for a loong time). The best example of that split is what I refer to as Pearson's boys (Trudeau, Chretien) and those that follow in that legacy ..particularly the one set out by Trudeau. Than there is the more conservative types like Martin and those that that don't suscripe the the Trudeau Legacy.

Could you be more specific. What specifically are the idealogical differences?

Martin being more to the right and more buisness friendly?
 

Semperfi_dani

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RE: Who are the next pote

Well its a percived difference admittedly. Martin and those "like Martin" seem to be more moderate conservative based thinking, particularly in concerns to the economy. They seem to be ..um..more moderate in their approach to social issues as well.

Like i said, its percieved differences. And if the differences were not there, than why else would there be this big divide between the Martin camp and the Chretien camp? Because there is a fundamental difference in the Liberal party..some go more moderate conservative..and some want to go more left of centre.
 

Freethinker

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Re: RE: Who are the next pote

Semperfi_dani said:
Well its a percived difference admittedly. Martin and those "like Martin" seem to be more moderate conservative based thinking, particularly in concerns to the economy. They seem to be ..um..more moderate in their approach to social issues as well.

Like i said, its percieved differences. And if the differences were not there, than why else would there be this big divide between the Martin camp and the Chretien camp? Because there is a fundamental difference in the Liberal party..some go more moderate conservative..and some want to go more left of centre.

I thought it was a plain old power struggle. They build supporters, and the supporters figure when their man wins they will be on the "in" team. I can detect no policy shift from Chretien to Martin. Martin ran essentially unchallenged in his leadership bid so it doesn't look like a large ideology split.

I think Martin got a raw deal here. I don't think he had anything to do with the sponsorship scandal, but that will never be a prevailing view. He is no longer an asset. I hope he has the good sense to resign without a fight and allow some renewal.
 

TinMan

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What about Clyde Wells???

For pure entertainment value I'd vote for the man with the doo Pierre Pettigrew. It'd be funny but sad. :roll:
 

TenPenny

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Brian Tobin won't run. He has too many skeletons in his closet. His day is past.

I hear lots about McKenna; I think he'd be a good choice, but it's important to have a race. (MMMike, you're from Apohaqui?)

Brison would never make it, since he's an ex-PC. That wouldn't fly.

Pettygrew (sp?) would take a run for it.
Dryden would probably consider it; he has name recognition, and is certainly a bright man.

I would say something like a McKenna vs Dryden race is possible.
 

Jo Canadian

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Jay

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Toro said:
The next Liberal leader will be Paul Martin. He'll hang on to fight the next election.

It's the best conservatives can hope for....
 

Freethinker

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Re: RE: Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

TenPenny said:
I hear lots about McKenna; I think he'd be a good choice, but it's important to have a race. (MMMike, you're from Apohaqui?)

I am orignally from New Brunswick. McKenna did a lot with very little in my home province. I have the utmost faith in his ethics, buisness accumen, humility, decency, and pragmatism.

That being said, I think Harper would shred him in a debate. He just doesn't have the killer instinct for that kind of confrontation.
 

Colpy

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Re: RE: Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

Freethinker said:
TenPenny said:
I hear lots about McKenna; I think he'd be a good choice, but it's important to have a race. (MMMike, you're from Apohaqui?)

I am orignally from New Brunswick. McKenna did a lot with very little in my home province. I have the utmost faith in his ethics, buisness accumen, humility, decency, and pragmatism.

That being said, I think Harper would shred him in a debate. He just doesn't have the killer instinct for that kind of confrontation.

McKenna is the one Liberal leader, Federal or Provincial, that I have ever voted for in 33 years of voting.

Just once, mind you.
 

Triple_R

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In my opinion, Brian Tobin was the most effective Liberal campaigner in the past month of so. He's very slick, and comes across as very reasonable.

However, he's poor at French, and wouldn't represent a break from the Chretien liberals.

I think that it will be Ignatief. His only negative (within the Liberals) is his stance on the Iraq war... and that war may very well be a virtual non-issue (in Canada, any way) by the time of the next federal election.
 

Jay

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Tobin is to be feared. He is someone who knows industry very well and could give conservatives a run for their money at their own game.