Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

MMMike

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What about Ujjal Dosanjh? He seems quite intent on rebuilding the party.
http://www.cbc.ca/bc/story/bc_libs-dosanjh20060124.html


I've heard David Emerson (Vancouver Kingsway) might make a run for it. He's popular and was re-elected easily.


And where are people getting the idea of Daniel Igali from?

Ujjal Dosanjh??? He of the 'welcome mate with bits of fur on it'?? He was caught on tape trying to bribe Grewal to cross the floor. Surely he wouldn't stand a chance.... Then again, maybe he is the ideal candidate to lead the Liberal Party. :lol: :lol:
 

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MMMike wrote:
Then again, maybe he is the ideal candidate to lead the Liberal Party. :lol: :lol:

We were kind of hoping that the Conservatives would take him. He will be able to manage Harper's budget, just like he did for B.C. :roll:
 

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The Liberals should try to woo Preston Manning for a one time stint as their leader. His mandate will be to clean up the corruption, sleaze and embezzlement. No Liberal can bring himself or herself to do the necessary job.
 

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McKenna to leave Washington, seen as Liberal leadership contender
Last Updated Wed, 25 Jan 2006 20:01:15 EST
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Just two days after the Conservatives came out ahead in the federal election, Frank McKenna, Canada's ambassador to the United States, has offered his resignation.


RELATED: Canada Votes 2006


Frank McKenna (CP file photo)
McKenna made his offer to resign in a letter to the newly elected prime minister, Stephen Harper, on Tuesday. The letter was released to the media on Wednesday


CBC

Guess we'll see him throw his hat in the ring??
 

FiveParadox

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In my opinion, the Honourable Ujjal Dosanjh would make a good leader; he has the experience as a Premier of a Province, and he is quite a well-spoken person and statesmen (notwithstanding the "incidents" in British Columbia, lol).

But I would hope that Mr. Bevolacqua takes it, just because he has a cool name. :)
 

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what i find interesting is:

McKenna: people what lived under his premiership seem to dislike him (from what has surfaced over the last few days)
Rae: people that lived under his premiership seem to dislike him (based on posts around here)
Stronach: not enough experience?
Tobin: remembered fondly i think for his foreign fishing stance nationally and supposedly a good premier, but so far seems not interested in returning to politics.
Manley: useless stuffed shirt that makes Harper seem normal.

So it seems there is a real lacking in the early potentials for a real centre-left leader that can unite the party, be popular in all regions, and put forth a platform that will be one of "multi-faceted" solutions which will protect the weak, protect individuality, and promote the evolution of society.

Best of luck to the Libs on this one. It may take longer than so far suggested to rebuild the party.
 

MMMike

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Re: RE: Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

FiveParadox said:
In my opinion, the Honourable Ujjal Dosanjh would make a good leader; he has the experience as a Premier of a Province, and he is quite a well-spoken person and statesmen (notwithstanding the "incidents" in British Columbia, lol).

But I would hope that Mr. Bevolacqua takes it, just because he has a cool name. :)

Five, how could you support Dosanjh for the leadership? Did you hear the tapes? The guy is a sleazeball.
 

FiveParadox

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In my opinion, Gurmant Grewal was the decidedly sleazier. It's funny how he just happened to have a tape recorder on him, and how it just happens that experts believe the tape to have been edited or tampered.
 

the caracal kid

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i will second that!

Dosanjh????? He should go visit the NBI and party with his old buddy Clark, the bar owner, and the strippers.

Yuk.... the BC NDPers = crap-on-a-stick.
 

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MMMike said:
Ujjal Dosanjh??? He of the 'welcome mate with bits of fur on it'?? He was caught on tape trying to bribe Grewal to cross the floor. Surely he wouldn't stand a chance.... Then again, maybe he is the ideal candidate to lead the Liberal Party. :lol: :lol:

as usual condemnation before guilt has been proven, today the investigation concluded that Dusanjh was innocent of any crime and lambasted Grewal for his behaviour, only one day in power and the cons are already rank with scandal, seems a lot worse than the liberals to me.

BTW im using the conservatives logic in this one.
 

MMMike

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nitzomoe said:
MMMike said:
Ujjal Dosanjh??? He of the 'welcome mate with bits of fur on it'?? He was caught on tape trying to bribe Grewal to cross the floor. Surely he wouldn't stand a chance.... Then again, maybe he is the ideal candidate to lead the Liberal Party. :lol: :lol:

as usual condemnation before guilt has been proven, today the investigation concluded that Dusanjh was innocent of any crime and lambasted Grewal for his behaviour, only one day in power and the cons are already rank with scandal, seems a lot worse than the liberals to me.

BTW im using the conservatives logic in this one.

ooo a big investigation by the ethics commissioner... a liberal lapdog. Anybody who heard the tape or read the transcripts can make up their own mind about it. Yeah, Grewal is sleazy for taping it, but there can be no question about what was being discussed.
 

MMMike

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the caracal kid said:
what i find interesting is:

McKenna: people what lived under his premiership seem to dislike him (from what has surfaced over the last few days)
Rae: people that lived under his premiership seem to dislike him (based on posts around here)
Stronach: not enough experience?
Tobin: remembered fondly i think for his foreign fishing stance nationally and supposedly a good premier, but so far seems not interested in returning to politics.
Manley: useless stuffed shirt that makes Harper seem normal.

So it seems there is a real lacking in the early potentials for a real centre-left leader that can unite the party, be popular in all regions, and put forth a platform that will be one of "multi-faceted" solutions which will protect the weak, protect individuality, and promote the evolution of society.

Best of luck to the Libs on this one. It may take longer than so far suggested to rebuild the party.

I lived in N.B. under McKenna's premiership. I can assure you he is held in high regard by Liberals and Conservatives... maybe everybody but the looney left. I'm a Conservative... I'd probably take McKenna over Harper anyday.
 

MMMike

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the caracal kid said:
thanks for the input MMMike.

I know next to nothing on McKenna so i was going on the very little i have seen since Martin stepped down.

McKenna is quite pro-business. Very much after the Paul Martin mold. I think he's tougher, too, and less likely to bow to pressure. You know, I was touting McKenna as a great candidate for the Conservative party leadership a couple years ago. Goes to show how close those two parties really are when it comes to ideology.
 

Hank C

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I have to agree with you MMMike, I actually like McKenna myself and if I was a moderate Liberal I would support him as the next Liberal leader. He is probably a well respected man although he is not know much out west... except for his brief stint as ambassador to the US.

He seems like one to make decesions based on whats good for Canada rather than his own political party interests...unlike Paul Martin who childishly bashed the US to gain votes.

I support Mr Harper fully and would like to see him become a popular leader, and win his majority next time around.....however if if by some reason he does not govern well....I would probably give McKenna a good look.
 

Hank C

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Re: RE: Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

MMMike said:
McKenna is quite pro-business. Very much after the Paul Martin mold. I think he's tougher, too, and less likely to bow to pressure. You know, I was touting McKenna as a great candidate for the Conservative party leadership a couple years ago. Goes to show how close those two parties really are when it comes to ideology.

I agree except I would not compare him with Paul Martin, who was a conservative finance minister but goverend like a leftist Liberal. I also think McKenna would fit well as a Tory as he seems quite pro-business.

Now we all know McKenna is not the most emotional/passionate looking person.....quite similar to Mr Harper, guys who like to get straight to the point. I wonder who would win in a debate between the two?
 

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Re: RE: Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

MMMike said:
the caracal kid said:
what i find interesting is:

McKenna: people what lived under his premiership seem to dislike him (from what has surfaced over the last few days)
Rae: people that lived under his premiership seem to dislike him (based on posts around here)
Stronach: not enough experience?
Tobin: remembered fondly i think for his foreign fishing stance nationally and supposedly a good premier, but so far seems not interested in returning to politics.
Manley: useless stuffed shirt that makes Harper seem normal.

So it seems there is a real lacking in the early potentials for a real centre-left leader that can unite the party, be popular in all regions, and put forth a platform that will be one of "multi-faceted" solutions which will protect the weak, protect individuality, and promote the evolution of society.

Best of luck to the Libs on this one. It may take longer than so far suggested to rebuild the party.

I lived in N.B. under McKenna's premiership. I can assure you he is held in high regard by Liberals and Conservatives... maybe everybody but the looney left. I'm a Conservative... I'd probably take McKenna over Harper anyday.


Ditto here. My only reservation with him is he is sometimes a hesitant public speaker. But he is pragmatic, hard working and ethical to the core. I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, my only concern is that he wouldn't be nearly as slick as Harper and Harper might best him in a Debate.

I remember when some buisness was setting up in New Brunswick and they asked him why. The information for buisness line that Frank set up. Not just because he did that, but because he happened to answer the phone that day!
 

MMMike

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Re: RE: Who are the next potential Liberal Party leaders.

Hank C said:
MMMike said:
McKenna is quite pro-business. Very much after the Paul Martin mold. I think he's tougher, too, and less likely to bow to pressure. You know, I was touting McKenna as a great candidate for the Conservative party leadership a couple years ago. Goes to show how close those two parties really are when it comes to ideology.

I agree except I would not compare him with Paul Martin, who was a conservative finance minister but goverend like a leftist Liberal. I also think McKenna would fit well as a Tory as he seems quite pro-business.

Now we all know McKenna is not the most emotional/passionate looking person.....quite similar to Mr Harper, guys who like to get straight to the point. I wonder who would win in a debate between the two?

I think he is a lot like Martin. Without the rhetorical flourishes. I don't think Martin believed half of what he espoused as PM - like a strict line on public healthcare, sweeping social programs, gun bans. He embraced those policies for three reasons: to appeal to an unsophisticated public, to placate the left Liberals, and to be able to paint the Harper Conservatives as extremists.