Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

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Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gnostic Christianity’s?

You may use whatever set of commandments you think Yahweh gave. There are a number of renditions.

As for the Gnostic commandments, I offer the following.


  • You shall place no commandments above these unless proven to be morally superior.
  • You shall value all people as equal before the law. The inequality of outcome is punishment enough of itself.
  • You shall live by the golden rule and respond with reciprocity of harm or care to what is done to you.
  • Use Gnosis and put logic and reason and their proofs above faith, which by its nature has no proofs, logic or reason.
  • You shall leave the environment in a better condition than what is given to you as an inheritance to your next generation.
  • You shall not impoverish the next generation and live according to the means you produce as their labor and wealth is theirs and not yours to squander.

Gnostic Christianity and free thinking lost the God wars when the Orthodox Church decimated us and burned most of our scriptures. I think that Gnostic Christians had a superior set of commandments then as well as now. Those commandments were not only meant for seekers after a God but also a guide to secular law. Both secular law and Christianity seemed to ignore the second commandment of equality till our modern era. As a Gnostic Christian, I ask (rhetorically), what took the world so long to catch up to Gnostic Christian thinking and what is Islam and other backwards thinking people waiting for.

Many have a problem with the 10 commandments given by Yahweh so I thought I would see if there is a consensus of thought on the Gnostic Christian ideology as compared to the Christian ideology. The main complaints I see are that Yahweh’s commandments have created a Christian ideology that denies gays and women equality. I think all souls to be created equal and thus deserving of equal human statue and citizenship.

Others as seen in these two link have their own views and I would add that I think Yahweh’s no divorce policy, --- which Jesus confirms. --- and Yahweh’s policy of accepting bribes, ransoms or sacrifices (these are all analogue) to alter his usual and moral policy punishing the guilty and not the innocent, --- to the immoral policy of punishing the innocent instead of the guilty, as exemplified by his accepting Jesus as a sacrifice to save sinners whom God himself created to be sinners.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u3z69YpLx0#t=100

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfGRN4HVrQ

Thanks in advance for your reply.

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DL
 
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Which one is obeyed more?? The Biblical ones are not said to be followed until conditions go back to being the way they were in the garden and that doesn't happen until the return.
The 12Tribes in the OT had the Scriptures and prophets from God made regular visits and they still became so sinful God had Neb remove them from the promised land.
Are Gentiles to be held to a higher standard even though the falling into sin is made so it is impossible not to have many sins chalked up in a month, or even one bad day.

M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

The 12 Tribes don't reach the sinless level until the return so they are still prone to making the same level of mistakes as they did in the OT. The laws are effective after the return.

Eze:36:26:
A new heart also will I give you,
and a new spirit will I put within you:
and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh,
and I will give you an heart of flesh.
 
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M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
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Oddly enough, when Jimmy Carter said he was guilty of having done that, he was ridiculed. Yet the right wing bible bashers of today are firmly supportive of Trump, who seems to have a marriage fidelity problem.


Weird.
 
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Which one is obeyed more??
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That is not the question, but I am not surprised that you would try to deflect from it to maintain your sheeple comfort level.


I will say though that the Christian 10 Commandments are garbage and quite impossible to follow.


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French Patriot said:
and quite impossible to follow.
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Really?? If thy were meant to be followed there wouldn't have been loopholes that were allowances for not following said laws.
The 10 Commandment get parked when the 1,000 year reign starts and it will be the Law for the eternity the new earth exists. There will be a new set of laws that are suitable for sinless immortals. I suppose you have some complaints about them also.

Re:21:6-8:
And he said unto me,
It is done.
I am Alpha and Omega,
the beginning and the end.
I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God,
and he shall be my son.
But the fearful,
and unbelieving,
and the abominable,
and murderers,
and whoremongers,
and sorcerers,
and idolaters,
and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone:
which is the second death.

You might want to consider conversion to Judaism if you want to be in the front row, or the back seat like the last to be saved is still a pretty decent ending. Got some complaints about He runs that part of the operation also??
 
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Re:7:9-17:
After this I beheld,
and,
lo,
a great multitude,
which no man could number,
of all nations,
and kindreds,
and people,
and tongues,
stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb,
clothed with white robes,
and palms in their hands;
And cried with a loud voice,
saying,
Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne,
and unto the Lamb.
And all the angels stood round about the throne,
and about the elders and the four beasts,
and fell before the throne on their faces,
and worshipped God,
Saying,
Amen:
Blessing,
and glory,
and wisdom,
and thanksgiving,
and honour,
and power,
and might,
be unto our God for ever and ever.
Amen.
And one of the elders answered,
saying unto me,
What are these which are arrayed in white robes?
and whence came they?
And I said unto him,
Sir,
thou knowest.
And he said to me,
These are they which came out of great tribulation,
and have washed their robes,
and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
Therefore are they before the throne of God,
and serve him day and night in his temple:
and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
They shall hunger no more,
neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun light on them,
nor any heat.
For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them,
and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters:
and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
 
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