Where should I move in Canada? Alberta or Toronto area ?

Dexter Sinister

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I'm not quite sure what to make of this thread. Kale7334, the way you write suggests either that English is not your first language, or the English teachers you had in primary and secondary school were not very good at their jobs. Doesn't much matter either way, it can be fixed with a little effort, and if that were all I had to say I wouldn't have bothered. But it isn't.

Your technical qualifications are pretty good, and you'd probably do better in Alberta, in my not very humble opinion. Alberta is desperately short of skilled people, it's sucking them up from all over and causing shortages elsewhere, and that still isn't enough. Be warned though: higher wages almost always mean higher living costs; a $68K a year job in Edmonton or Calgary is about like a $45K a year job in Regina, where I live. For instance, in Regina you can find a 1200 square foot bungalow in decent condition in a decent neighbourhood for around $120K. In Calgary or Edmonton the same house would cost you at least $300K, if you can find one. Good housing, particularly in Calgary, is hard to find. And in Toronto it'd be $500K. All other jurisdictions in Canada have higher taxes than Alberta, but that's deceptive too: in Alberta you pay out of pocket for things that elsewhere are covered or subsidized by the government's general revenues. Library services, public recreational facilities, car and home insurance, medical care insurance, and a lot of other stuff, will cost you direct charges in Alberta, while elsewhere in Canada they're covered by general revenues or charged out at a very minimal cost. My son's driver's licence for instance, in Saskatchewan costs him about a tenth of what it would cost him in Alberta, and his vehicle insurance costs about a third as much. For me, because I'm over twice his age with a good record, the costs are about the same in Alberta and Saskatchewan.

It's not a simple comparison, but detailed studies by people who presumably know what they're doing (economists, accountants, tax lawyers, people like that) suggest the real costs of living in Alberta and Saskatchewan are about the same on average, and Toronto is way higher. Go to Alberta. Everybody else does, and they're still short of skilled people there. But don't go without a job; get the offer, then go.
 

kale7334

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wow dexter sinister..you nailed my question. No, english isnt my first language..russian is! I am thinking of Alberta too. Many people have suggested that I should go there regardless of the job guarantee. They say that I will get it soon after i reach because of my educational background. And I agree that its a ladder meaning that i will be at the bottom of the stairs and i will have to climb it which is just fine. I will work hard and achieve success and happiness eventually. I dont even mind working onone of those gondola places in Banff to start with. I bet they need people ! I have called few people in Alberta about renting a place in calgary south west part of it and the rent is 900 for a town house per month which i think is not so cheap, but i will work more initially...and it WILL be hard for a few days..but once i get my groove on the things, or make contacts..i will definitely get something. One important thing is sports. I play tennis and i bet there will be places where people play tennis. Tennis is a game in which you will see many CEO's are involved, meeting them at the courts is a bonus. Let's see how I do it. I appreciate your warm and very informative answer which i was expecting from others too.
 

Ron in Regina

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how recent are these enquiries re moving to Alberta


Hi there! Welcome to Canadian Content Forums!!!

Every post has a date on it. Yours is from a couple of minutes ago.
The one above yours is from July 6th, 2006...so it's 3yrs & 8 days old.
Not so recent on this Thread except for you, & I guess me now. 8O
 

JLM

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Hello all, First and foremost, Am I so much energized to get the PR card that you wont believe ( or you may). It is nice to have it in your pocket and use whenever u want ..well..I am an Industrial Engineer, Master's degree from University of Oklahoma, I also have B.S. in Mechanical Engg and I am a Certified Math teacher in the USA do not know about Canada certification though. I am moving to canada in search of new life. I have heard that there is a boom in Calgary/edmonton and people are hiring outsiders and flying them there to work on the oil riggs. So, do i stand any chance of getting a 50-60k job in real? I do not have many years of experience in engineering, but i graduated in 2003 and have a year of experience. I have excellent references , excellent educational background and outstanding work ethics. I would really appreciate if you have any suggestions or ideas as you might have gone through the same situation sometime in your life. Any suggestions are welcome and and your advice is absolutely important for me.

How to start a job search ? Does Workopolis or monster really work in canada? I have heard that employers need CANADIAN experience..and I do not have any! I do have american experience though..so how does it work? how did u guys manage to get good jobs?

Also, how immigrant friendly is Alberta ? how are the downtowns? what are the living costs and stuff...i would love to know before jumping in !
Thanks in advance for helping me...

Oil patch is not a good prospect right now. My son has over 20 years experience in the patch, is well respected for his knowledge and versatility in oil an gas production, but until things liven up he's back in B.C. working odd jobs part time at less than $20 an hour and he's willing to work anywhere- even Norman Wells but his phone hasn't been exactly ringing off the wall.
 

JLM

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Toronto could be disastrous with close to 100000 auto workers out of work in Ontario. YOu probably couldn't get a job putting wheels on roller skates.
 

Cliffy

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Why is nobody harnessing all the methane escaping from the melting tundra? There should be tons of work up in the NW Territories. Besides, I hear the black flies are starving to death.
 

AnnaG

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Well excuse me. I figured I had answered all of your questions.

You asked if it would be better to move to Alberta or Toronto. I said that you would probably have better luck in Alberta. I pointed out that there was construction in Alberta, and that this construction was booming in the Oil sector. (Why is that capitalized?)

If you think that your post was poor only in structure and grammatical/Spelling errors, you are abundantly incorrect. I just expected better from a person with a university degree. If you're so arrogant as to be offended by my comments, and so blind as to see that your post was very poorly constructed, than you can't fault me for telling it like it is. Which, by the way, is pecisely (sp?)what I do.

Dollars to donuts (in Canada, it's spelled 'doughnuts'), I appear to be much more proficient with my use of the english language than you do. And I'm a high school dropout. So do the math.
... so it's ok for people that live in glass houses to throw rocks? lmao
 

AnnaG

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Ok Hockey...I visited toronto and saw nothing but poverty. Prolly cause i went to SCARBOROUGH. I saw some beggers on the street..in california, we see chinese people in the IT jobs and have not see a single poor chinese person ever. So it was a shock. Too many international people though which might be a good or a bad thing. Now in case of natural beauty, I think Banff is so close to Calgary that i should choose calgary as my destination. I love mountain climbing and hiking and stuff so it might be a good idea to move there. Thanks for ur post...its helping me a lot in my decision making process...keep it coming...
Alberta is a good choice. It's probably one of the least expensive provinces to live in and the economy there is usually not bad. If you like milder climates, southern BC is great, but work is iffy.
Toronto is pretty cold in the winter and humid as heck in the summer and there are people like SJP there. lmao
 

AnnaG

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ok Who's the twit that keeps dragging these old threads out of the trunk in the basement?
 

jjaycee98

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Math degrees are nearly useless. They get you no extra money as a teacher, and very little additional respect.
As to anything to do with Engineering you are setting your sights way too low. At the very least $25,000 and more like $40K more. I do Tax preparation. I see 100s of T4s (our employee tax slips) and also do Accounting for several guys who Contract out to Oil Companies.