When things go wrong, we seem to blame everyone but ourselves..

[Chiliagon]

have you noticed in the world in the time that you have been alive that whenever a bunch of things go wrong for someone, like a car breaking down or overdue bills or something that seriously makes their lives harder that they will blame everyone else, like the technical help, the Car repairman, call agent, manager.. etc.

they don't accept the responsibility that they caused it.

for example:

a guy gets pulled over by a cop for speeding and instead of admitting that he sped way over the limit, he goes and gets mad at the cop for being a cash cow, picking on him instead of getting the guys who are going 150km/hr.. Amazing how this seems to always happen, they don't take responsibility for their actions, they instead blame others for it.

you notice that in daily life? the guy blames the world and never him/her self?

 

[Cliffy]

Yup! But is that a personality quirk or is that a conditioned reflex? American blame the Muslims. the Muslims blame the Yanks, everybody blames the government. It is in the news every night. Taking responsibility seems to be a socially conditioned response to life but I am sure some people would be that way without outside influence.

 

[talloola]

have you noticed in the world in the time that you have been alive that whenever a bunch of things go wrong for someone, like a car breaking down or overdue bills or something that seriously makes their lives harder that they will blame everyone else, like the technical help, the Car repairman, call agent, manager.. etc.

they don't accept the responsibility that they caused it.

for example:

a guy gets pulled over by a cop for speeding and instead of admitting that he sped way over the limit, he goes and gets mad at the cop for being a cash cow, picking on him instead of getting the guys who are going 150km/hr.. Amazing how this seems to always happen, they don't take responsibility for their actions, they instead blame others for it.

you notice that in daily life? the guy blames the world and never him/her self?

many years ago a lady friend of mine, called the cop a filthy nazi, because he pulled her over for
speeding. I still laugh when I think about it, she was so mad when she told me about 'him', but I
had to hold back from bursting out.

 

[karrie]

Oh I see it all the time.

 

[Cliffy]

Here is an interesting statement:
"Egocentricity may be an infantile disorder, often persisting into advanced age, but it may be overcome..."
The rest of the article can be seen here: Matrix Cognition and Spiritual Progress.

It kinda puts some of these traits into perspective.

 

[gerryh]

Here is an interesting statement:
"Egocentricity may be an infantile disorder, often persisting into advanced age, but it may be overcome..."
The rest of the article can be seen here: Matrix Cognition and Spiritual Progress.

It kinda puts some of these traits into perspective.

Todays attitude toward abortion and the human fetus is a prime example of egocentricity.

 

[Cliffy]

Todays attitude toward abortion and the human fetus is a prime example of egocentricity.

It is definitely one of many. The aboriginal peoples of the world all had an initiation process that was designed to kill the childhood ego and to have the person reborn into the adult responsibilities of whatever particular culture the child was born into. In our society we don't have such a process and so the childhood ego usually persists into adulthood and old age. I think that is an issue that needs to be looked into if we are ever to mature as a society.

 

[TenPenny]

Hey, it's a bonus thread: anti-Americanism and anti-abortion rolled into one!

 

[taxslave]

This is a natural human reaction. That is why the uneducated have gods and spirits. Also the reason the rest of know that Murphy was an optimist.
The whole idea of not accepting blame is pushed by socialists that do not believe in winners and losers. Can't give out a first prize for the best because it might make the ones that lost have problems with self esteem.
Our joke of a legal system also does more than its share of perpetuating this not my fault syndrome. Spill hot coffee on your lap? Not my fault I am clumsy, sue the restaurant for making the coffee too hot. Now for ever afterward the rest of us are doomed to luke warm coffee.

 

[AnnaG]

lol Speak for yourself, clfisbest.
I inattentively stepped on a rock that rolled under my foot the other day and scraped off some of the skin on my arm staying upright. I didn't blame the tree that collected my skin, some god or other, some devil or demon, or the rock.
There's nothing wrong with egocentricity as long as there are positive traits in a person's psyche to counterbalance it.

 

[L Gilbert]

lol Speak for yourself, clfisbest.
I inattentively stepped on a rock that rolled under my foot the other day and scraped off some of the skin on my arm staying upright. I didn't blame the tree that collected my skin, some god or other, some devil or demon, or the rock.

My fault? lol

There's nothing wrong with egocentricity as long as there are positive traits in a person's psyche to counterbalance it.

Yep. Everyone's self-centered to a point.

 

[Chiliagon]

hehe, this topic got a little OFF-topic..

I just really wonder about people and their inability to accept fault.

 

[VanIsle]

hehe, this topic got a little OFF-topic..

I just really wonder about people and their inability to accept fault.

I too wonder about that because I'm actually pretty good at accepting responsibility for my wrongs in life. Obviously we are all guilty at times but the whole idea is (to me at least) when you realize who really is at fault - own up! It's really not all that hard to say "I did that and I'm sorry". I think the first step is to wonder to yourself "what have I done" or "could I have done this" because usually, the answer is Yes. When I hear my kids say "it's not my fault or it's nothing I did" too frequently, I have to wonder what I did wrong in raising them. When and where did they learn to shirk their responsibility!! 8O

 

[Praxius]

hehe, this topic got a little OFF-topic..

I just really wonder about people and their inability to accept fault.

Not everybody is like this.

I accept fault when it is mine to accept.

Me hypothetically not paying off a bill in time, getting caught speeding, etc. are all examples of my responsibilities not being met/needing to be accepted.

Accepting responsibility for one's own actions is a lot easier for one to deal with then trying to pass blame and avoiding your responsibilities for extended periods of time. Punishment of your actions right away are always easier to deal with then dragging on and fighting accepting your responsibility for extended periods of time......

.... like how courts deal with such things..... Say you're charged for a crime you actually committed and you try and fight that you either didn't do it, or the crime's responsibility lies in someone else's hands. You know full well you're guilty...... and eventually, you are found guilty.

Will your punishment after all of this be the same as if you just admitted to your responsibilities right off the bat?

Usually for pulling such a stunt, the penalties you will face are generally worse then if you just admitted responsibility when you had the chance. In much the same way, I treat others with this method.

When I know someone did wrong to me or someone I care about, they will be confronted. If they tell the truth and explain their situation from the get-go, then the situation can usually be addressed quickly and easily..... if they lie or try and pass blame where it is unjustified, then my responses and actions will increase equally, along with how I deal with or treat that person in the future.

And I'd expect others to do the same if I did wrong. It's only fair.