What's Your Share of Provincial Debt?

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They should move the Riders to Saskatoon. It's the only major centre in Saskatistan (if you can even call any centre in SK, "major") that isn't a complete shithole.
 

Twin_Moose

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They should move the Riders to Saskatoon. It's the only major centre in Saskatistan (if you can even call any centre in SK, "major") that isn't a complete shithole.

Nope they are good right were they are, better access for the Province to cheer the Sask. Roughriders
 

JLM

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Yes Brad Wall is a true Conservative.. the other aforementioned is to busy washing bottles at a Bottle Recycling Depot ... but obviously not that busy because you’re online dam near 24/7


It's pretty hard for an idiot to keep continuously occupied because there's limited # of things they can do.
 

spilledthebeer

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If you live in;

BC $13,815

AB $9,282

SK $7,504

MB $18,393

ON $21,999

PQ $22,225

NB $18,377

NL $23,752

NS $15,760

PE $14,883

Source: Canada's National Debt Clock : The Canadian Taxpayers Federation

Of course if you want to SCARE people then start adding what we owe for ALL levels of govt! At the rate LIE-berals are spending we will end up bankrupt like the Greeks and will repudiate the debt- and cause economic chaos!

The worst of it is thast about 60 percent of our debt is held by foreigners- mostly Yankees- followed by smaller amounts held by Germans and by Japanese! If LIE-berals repudiate the debt then good luck getting parts for your Honda- or your BMW!

AS for Yankees- they are right next door and can take more direct action to collect what they are owed! After all, they do want access to our oil and electricity!

Our idiot Boy Justin is distressed that Trump has hit us with steep tariffs on steel and aluminum- right after Our idiot Boy put out his new budget- with a mess of mad spending nonsense and ANOTHER MASSIVE DEFICIT!

Only a LIE-beral could be so happily oblivious to the timing and coincidence! Our idiot Boy is picking a trade war with our most valuable ally! And the idiot Boy expects Yankees to pick up the tab just the same way socialist Greeks whine about rotten German tax payers who wont hand over their life savings to pay for Greeks!

LIE-beral hypocrisy is fabulous!
 

petros

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Did we get hit? One of Canada's steel operations is a Russian company listed on FTSE putting out a Nasdaq IPO after moving HO from Canada to the US and listing as a seperate entity.
 

JLM

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of course if you want to scare people then start adding what we owe for all levels of govt! At the rate lie-berals are spending we will end up bankrupt like the greeks and will repudiate the debt- and cause economic chaos!

The worst of it is thast about 60 percent of our debt is held by foreigners- mostly yankees- followed by smaller amounts held by germans and by japanese! If lie-berals repudiate the debt then good luck getting parts for your honda- or your bmw!

As for yankees- they are right next door and can take more direct action to collect what they are owed! After all, they do want access to our oil and electricity!

Our idiot boy justin is distressed that trump has hit us with steep tariffs on steel and aluminum- right after our idiot boy put out his new budget- with a mess of mad spending nonsense and another massive deficit!

Only a lie-beral could be so happily oblivious to the timing and coincidence! Our idiot boy is picking a trade war with our most valuable ally! And the idiot boy expects yankees to pick up the tab just the same way socialist greeks whine about rotten german tax payers who wont hand over their life savings to pay for greeks!

Lie-beral hypocrisy is fabulous!
:) :) :) :)
 

spilledthebeer

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This article illustrates just how little care LIE-berals have for your health, your job, your welfare, your kids, your civil rights or pretty much anything they decree is less important than THEIR GRAVY!

With some comments of my own in brackets):

'A complete mess in this country': Liberal Party resolution to decriminalize use of all drugs blasted

Canadian Press. Published: January 29, 2018. Updated: January 29, 2018 11:41 AM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Canada

OTTAWA — The war on drugs may move to a new battlefield in Canada, if Liberal MPs get their way: the 2019 federal election campaign.

They’re pushing the Trudeau government to go much further than legalizing recreational marijuana. In a priority resolution they hope will be adopted at the Liberals’ policy convention in April for inclusion in the next election platform, the national caucus is calling on the government to eliminate criminal penalties for simple possession and consumption of all illicit drugs.

Newly-minted NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has taken a similar stance.

Our grassroots policy development process is already underway – make sure your voice is heard by sharing your thoughts in our new online forum:

https://t.co/FrUpFtejp9
— Liberal Party (@liberal_party) January 16, 2018

But the Conservatives, who have opposed many elements of the plan to legalize pot by July, are signalling that they would object to decriminalizing the use of other, harder drugs even more strenuously.

(A great many Cdns are already unhappy with LIE-beral changes to drug laws. They worry about happy stoners operating heavy equipment and casually slapping sensitive equipment together on the job. In cases where a fatal car crash was caused by drunk driving- over 40 percent of drivers were also stoned. A Japanese prime minister visiting United States nearly caused a riot when he suggested that Yankee workers were drugged up and sloppy workers after he was asked to explain the success of Japanese products such as cars- yet when General Motors tried to set up a “snitch line” so that senior staff could get help for Oshawa plant workers who got drunk or drugged up during lunch breaks, the union went berserk at the perceived insult. GM felt that lunch hour boozing was a company wide problem- even at the Oshawa plant- the one with the consistently highest quality of any plant in North America!)

“The Conservatives haven’t been satisfied or in any way pleased with what they’re doing in the area of marijuana. I think it’s going to be a complete mess in this country,” Conservative justice critic Rob Nicholson said in an interview.

(Cdns do not think that laws that make it easier for kids to get access to drugs is a good idea- with parents more worried about kids with Weed than with alcohol- since it is easier for kids to get at Weed than alcohol already! Cdns are also worried about the social costs of easier access to hard drugs- many of us recall Lisa Podniewitz- the 9 year old girl who was beaten to death by her drug addicted parents. WE also recall that the day before she died of pneumonia caused by breathing troubles from her broken ribs- SHE WAS VISITED by a City of Toronto social worker who kindly tied a bracelet to the ankle of the dying child without noticing the poor kid ALSO had a broken leg!)

(And how could a social worker MISS such a list of injuries on a dying kid? The social worker was a refugee from Chile- and was hired ONLY for her Spanish language skill and ability to explain city services to immigrants from South American countries- the usual LIE-beral immigrant vote buying exercise. The woman had NO training as a social worker and basically got paid well to watch the kid DIE- since there were very few Spanish speaking refugees in the city needing her services and govt had to keep her busy somehow- doing work she was NOT trained for!)

“That being said, to expand this … to do anything that does anything except discourage people from taking opioids and strong drugs I think is a mistake,” he added.

(It is hard to argue that an adult sitting at home on a Saturday evening- with work done and down time at hand- is ruining society by having a little smoke up while watching a funny movie or listening to music etc. The problem comes when a mass of workers are out in the parking lot 20 minutes before start of shift- furiously smoking up because they cannot get through their work day without it- it speaks of a crap attitude that shows up in quality of work! In addition, LIE-berals already have enough trouble with hard core drug addicts who cannot hold a job, need an array of govt services, regularly use food banks, require “affordable housing” for their kids such as Lisa Podniewitz- born of a mother working as a hooker to get drug money- which maybe explains why her `father`- so called- did not worry much about her- she was nothing but a welfare funded meal ticket and occasional punching bag- sired by a stranger! LIE-berals have proven they cannot handle the current welfare system and related drug issues in a sensible way so WHY would we let them EXPAND their madness?)

“If you’re saying it’s OK to consume this, you’re not sending out the message here that this is a huge problem that tears families apart, destroys peoples’ health, decreases the safety within this country. Because who’s going to be providing them with this? These are the criminal elements.”

(Some LIE-berals consider that the war on drugs is interfering with their flow of gravy- they want better perks and pensions not more criminal drug trials!)

Many Conservatives feared legalization of pot would be just the first step towards legalizing other, harder drugs. But Nicholson said he’s frankly surprised that Liberal MPs aren’t even waiting to see how legalizing cannabis works out before starting down that slippery slope.

I think it's going to be a complete mess in this country: Conservative MP Rob Nicholson

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has repeatedly ruled out legalization of drugs other than cannabis. He has not so far commented on the resolution advanced by his own caucus, which does not actually go so far as to advocate legalization of other drugs.

(Several Toronto Socialist Silly Hall councillors have already mused that it might be a good idea to legalize heroin- so apparently the madness is catching? Or else LIE-berals have decided that drug dealers and addicts are the two latest groups to be encouraged to sell their votes and their souls to LIE-beral Party!)

Rather, the caucus is proposing that Canada adopt the model that has proven successful in Portugal in significantly reducing overdose deaths, decreasing illicit drug use and reducing the social cost of drug abuse.

AS was seen on the TVO documentary, the Portuguese model is also a GREAT WAY to swell the ranks of civil service Hogs and poverty pimps who owe their lives on the gravy train to LIE-berals- its MORE shameless vote buying! While at the same time allowing LIE-berals to make UNFOUNDED CLAIMS about reducing illicit drug use and reducing social costs! Frankly, it looks to me as if the social cost is simply moved around a little! Hiring an army of poverty pimps to hold the hands of hard core addicts is NOT CHEAP!)

Since 2001, Portugal has expanded treatment and harm reduction services, such as safe injection sites, and eliminated criminal penalties for simple possession and consumption of all illegal drugs. A person found in possession of a drug for personal use is no longer arrested but ordered to appear before a “dissuasion commission” which can refer the person to a treatment program or impose administrative sanctions.

(Portugese LIE-berals are acting like 3 year olds- closing their eyes to make the problem “disappear”! Do we Cdns WANT to expand that huge underclass of drug addled morons who cannot and will not ever be self supporting because they are addicted?)

If the Conservatives want to ignore the evidence and lash out in some tough-on-crime way, I say have at it. Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith

“We see on all the metrics that matter, in terms of a public health approach, positive success stories,” Toronto Liberal MP Nathaniel Erskine-Smith said in an interview.

(The current Cdn “war on drugs” means not bothering to inspect 99 percent of ALL the cargo shipped to Canada from around the world! Would we have less drug problem if we searched incoming cargo more diligently instead of just giving up the war on drugs? LIE-berals see no reason to bother tracking the use of various chemicals used in drug production- so would we have les drugs if access to certain chemicals was restricted? LIE-berals don’t care to answer!)

“We’re certainly not talking about legalizing all drugs here. We’re talking about a step that would decriminalize (drug use) … I think the easiest way of thinking about it is we currently use the criminal justice system to tackle drug abuse and let’s use the health system as much as possible to tackle drug abuse instead.”

(Ideally we should follow the Imperial Chinese model in which drug addicts were sent to a secure facility and stayed there till their physical addiction to Opium had passed. Addicts who fell off the wagon got another round of treatment- with the conditions deteriorating with each failure. In the first round you were a victim in need of aid. By the third round- if needed- you were regarded as a social parasite in need of punishment for being a slow learner- and you were put on a Chinese version of Ontari-owe Works- performing various useful tasks at the treatment centre such as cleaning up vomit and washing bed sheets! AS various news reports have told us- it is easier to get drugs in Cdn jail than on the street! This is an UTTER FAILURE of the legal system!)

In a recent byelection in Toronto’s Scarborough-Agincourt, the Conservative candidate ran social media ads, one of which featured a grainy photo of a junkie injecting heroin into his arm. The ads warned voters about the Liberals’ plan to legalize pot and create more safe injection sites.

“The Trudeau Liberals want to bring dangerous drugs into our community,” one ad asserted. “The Liberals are rushing to legalizing (sic) marijuana despite concerns being raised by police and health professionals. And now they want to legalize prescription heroin!”

(LIE-berals are also blind and deaf to the concerns of Cdn public who DO NOT want safe injection sites or housing for addicts in their neighborhoods!)

It’s not hard to imagine how much sharper Conservative attacks would become if the Liberal party adopts the caucus proposal. But Erskine-Smith said Liberals shouldn’t let that deter them.

(No- and LIE-berals don’t let public opinion sway them either! They were warned many years ago that their mouldy green energy plan and the sale of Hydro to private investors would get them into trouble and look at them now! Wynne-bag is the most hated premier in history!)

“If the Conservatives want to ignore the evidence and lash out in some tough-on-crime way, I say have at it. It hasn’t worked in the past and I don’t think it will work,” he said.

“I hope we’re past the point of worrying whether Canadians are going to buy into this idea … It doesn’t matter what political stripe you are, if you care about the evidence and you care about what works, I think you’ve got to get past the politics of it and what the easy attack ad is and follow the evidence to save lives.”

(We care about drug addicts being encouraged by mis-guided LIE-beral airheads to go ahead and inject poison into their veins! Making hard drugs legal is not a solution! Handing out methadone has not resolved many problems as holders of methadone prescriptions often cheat and get multiple supplies and use it instead of heroin etc! And methadone users are classed as “disabled” in Ontari-owe- how will LIE-berals and the general public feel about a vast new drug addled mob claiming welfare money for their drug habits while sober Cdns struggle to pay their bills and get enough to eat with the pennies remaining to them after the tax man gets his HIT!)
 

spilledthebeer

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Too much. Far too much.

Here is an article that illustrates that LIE-berals have learned nothing from their previous disastrous forays into the world of business and economics. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ottawa's 'superclusters' are an exercise in economic futility

By Lorne Gunter. Published: February 20, 2018. Updated: February 20, 2018 5:02 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

Related Editorials
EDITORIAL: Ontario Liberals botch electric charging network

There’s a reason why when you turn on the venture capital reality show Dragon’s Den the hosts don’t include the assistant deputy minister of Economic Development Ontario or federal Innovation Minster Navdeep Bains.

Politicians and bureaucrats don’t know a thing about picking economic winners and losers. In fact, they’re downright bad at it.

(History show that the more govt involvement there is in a business the more likely it is to run red ink! One has only to think of Urban Transport Development
Corporation- the LIE-beral brain child that was taken over by Ndp and then DROWNED in its own red ink! Or Petro Canada- the Pierre Trudope brain child that was run by civil service union Hogs and NEVER showed a penny of profit in spite of being given FREE ACCESS to oil fields that private companies had to PAY to get into- with private sector still managing to show a profit! Or maybe we should discuss Bombardier- that vast tax grant gobbling entity that is spinning towards disaster like a turd in a flushed toilet- with all manner of accusations of poor quality control, delivery problems and a trade war with Yankees at Boeing! Fortunately the Bombardier trade war with Brazilian aircraft makers seems to have faded away! Or what of Metro Toronto Housing Authority which took over myriad apartment buildings in Toronto because the old private landlords were not “managing” the buildings in a nice enough way- with Metro Housing stepping in on behalf of the tenants and now MTHC is widely recognized as the biggest slum lord in the country! Govt “solutions” to real economic problems are NEVER valid solutions and they are NEVER CHEAP either!)

Yet time and time again politicians and bureaucrats convince themselves they possess the economic insights and business acumen needed to spend billions of taxpayers’ dollars trying to will into existence hundreds of new businesses – whole industries sometimes – and millions of new jobs.

(Another fine example of govt mess would be E-health- that ghastly crown corp that refuses to die! After the E-health scandal involving gross cost over runs- LIE-berals “fixed” the problem by simply refusing to set budgets for E-health- just send them blank cheques with NO limits! E-health execs figure they may have an actual product for us to try in a couple more years- MAYBE! But given the utter LACK of success in fixing the federal Phoenix pay system we ought to be sceptical of any assurances! Or we could consider the “success” of the TTC Presto card system which cost way more and is much less reliable than municipal govt expected! With TTC spokespeople offering up various explanations and excuses!)

They (govt) would be more successful if they each went to the gift shop at a Harry Potter exhibit, bought plastic wands and stood out in the parking lot chanting made-up spells.

The latest example of an expensive, government-driven exercise in economic futility was the announcement by Bains late last week of federal funding for five business “superclusters.”

Over the next five years, Ottawa is going to “invest” nearly a billion of your tax dollars funding five centres around which innovative businesses and scientists are going to cluster to do super stuff. Okay, so that’s a weak description of what a “supercluster” is, but I’m not sure there is a good description.

When asked to explain, Bains told reporters, “It is a made-in-Canada Silicon Valley that will create tens of thousands of jobs – that’s what a supercluster is.”

No, that’s what you hope a supercluster will evolve into. But you can’t just go to a big-box store, plunk down an oversized subsidy cheque, and grab another Silicon Valley off the shelf. If it were that easy, every Tom, Dick or Navdeep would do it.

Creating the next Silicon Valley can’t be planned. And it certainly can’t be planned by some government committee and a bunch of handout-seeking “innovators.”

(WE should recall that Toronto mayor Sorry Tory wasted a pile of tax dollars trying to figure out how to make a Toronto version of New Orleans jazz/Bourbon St- and he also spent time studying The Grand Old Opry in hopes of giving Toronto a taste of country! Nothing has come of it of course and why should it? Our vaunted Hollywood North exists ONLY because govt has thrown MASSIVE tax breaks at it! Unlike politicians- movie makers are generally GOOD business people and they go were the money is- and with Toronto so sadly Broke there will be NO Grand Old Opry on Front St!

Want to know how the original Silicon Valley came into existence? William Shockley, who was crucial to the development of both the transistor and the semiconductor, and who shared the 1956 Nobel Prize in Physics for his efforts, is known as “the Father of Silicon Valley.” And he moved his Shockley Semiconductor Labs from New Jersey to Mountain View, Calif., in the late ‘50s because his mother, who lived in Palo Alto, was ailing and he wanted to be close to her during her declining years.

Bains and the Liberals would have better luck trying to find supersmart men or women who are devoted sons or daughters and pay their moving expenses.

(One has to think back to some other dubious govt money making schemes such as “Bubbles Galore” -the soft porn film that Hogs were certain would make Quebec into a porn flim powerhouse- and did NOT! Or the biker bar- complete with strippers- some of whom may not have worked voluntarily - that Hogs thought would be a good bet for a loan of our tax dollars- to the bikers!)

The biggest single problem with political and bureaucratic decision-making is that most of the factors deemed important have nothing to do with what makes a business successful. For instance, the Liberals just happened to find one worthy supercluster in each of Canada’s five regions. No region was left out; no region got two. That wasn’t a politically motivated coincidence in any way, was it?

Or how about the fact that the “protein industries” supercluster that is to be built on the Prairies is going to focus on “plant proteins.” What about meat? Meat’s a protein and the Prairies are very good at producing it. Oh, right, meat isn’t politically correct. So even if meat would make the protein supercluster successful – a business decision – it can’t be funded for political reasons.

The same kind of thinking that is behind the “superclusters” (which is nothing more than a catchy phrase thought up by a marketing consultant), is also behind Ontario’s decade-long “green energy” push. That was supposed to create hundreds of thousands of high-tech jobs as it transitioned Ontario into the “carbon-free future.”

(And we all know that mouldy green energy is simply a giant slush fund for Hogs and it only cleans out our wallets and leaves the dirt in the air! LIE-berals are creating super clusters of debt!)

And the Alberta NDP’s climate leadership/carbon tax was to lift Alberta out of recession.

(With Alberta economy improving now because oil prices are climbing slowly higher- and in part because of massive NDP borrowing- 9 billion dollars for 2018 alone! One would think that Ndpers would have learned from the Bob Rae Ontari-owe disaster!)

Nothing makes superclusters any more likely to succeed than those previous failures.

(LIE-berals are convinced that there is nothing more to govt than to make regular public announcements for LIE-beral friendly news media and then to collect gobs of gravy for stating vague platitudes on various subjects!)
 

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you know I would be happy if that was all they were into me for, but they are going to get so much more than that. Everything I earn everything i buy, they get a piece of.
 

Hoid

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Is there a place so horrible and despised where i can go and pay the $12,999 in a lump sum? That would lower my taxes come income tax time right?
This is actually not a bad idea.

Here is my share of the provincial debt - use it to pay off that exact amount - and give me a tax credit.
 

JLM

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I'm not too concerned about it! It should be forwarded on to Sonny Boy to look after as he's already said there is no problem "Budgets (debt) balances itself"

Is there a place so horrible and despised where i can go and pay the $12,999 in a lump sum? That would lower my taxes come income tax time right?

Don't bet your first born.

Here is an article that illustrates that LIE-berals have learned nothing from their previous disastrous forays into the world of business and economics. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ottawa's 'superclusters' are an exercise in economic futility

By Lorne Gunter. Published: February 20, 2018. Updated: February 20, 2018 5:02 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

Related Editorials
EDITORIAL: Ontario Liberals botch electric charging network

There’s a reason why when you turn on the venture capital reality show Dragon’s Den the hosts don’t include the assistant deputy minister of Economic Development Ontario or federal Innovation Minster Navdeep Bains.

Politicians and bureaucrats don’t know a thing about picking economic winners and losers. In fact, they’re downright bad at it.

(History show that the more govt involvement there is in a business the more likely it is to run red ink! One has only to think of Urban Transport Development
Corporation- the LIE-beral brain child that was taken over by Ndp and then DROWNED in its own red ink! Or Petro Canada- the Pierre Trudope brain child that was run by civil service union Hogs and NEVER showed a penny of profit in spite of being given FREE ACCESS to oil fields that private companies had to PAY to get into- with private sector still managing to show a profit! Or maybe we should discuss Bombardier- that vast tax grant gobbling entity that is spinning towards disaster like a turd in a flushed toilet- with all manner of accusations of poor quality control, delivery problems and a trade war with Yankees at Boeing! Fortunately the Bombardier trade war with Brazilian aircraft makers seems to have faded away! Or what of Metro Toronto Housing Authority which took over myriad apartment buildings in Toronto because the old private landlords were not “managing” the buildings in a nice enough way- with Metro Housing stepping in on behalf of the tenants and now MTHC is widely recognized as the biggest slum lord in the country! Govt “solutions” to real economic problems are NEVER valid solutions and they are NEVER CHEAP either!)

Yet time and time again politicians and bureaucrats convince themselves they possess the economic insights and business acumen needed to spend billions of taxpayers’ dollars trying to will into existence hundreds of new businesses – whole industries sometimes – and millions of new jobs.

(Another fine example of govt mess would be E-health- that ghastly crown corp that refuses to die! After the E-health scandal involving gross cost over runs- LIE-berals “fixed” the problem by simply refusing to set budgets for E-health- just send them blank cheques with NO limits! E-health execs figure they may have an actual product for us to try in a couple more years- MAYBE! But given the utter LACK of success in fixing the federal Phoenix pay system we ought to be sceptical of any assurances! Or we could consider the “success” of the TTC Presto card system which cost way more and is much less reliable than municipal govt expected! With TTC spokespeople offering up various explanations and excuses!)

They (govt) would be more successful if they each went to the gift shop at a Harry Potter exhibit, bought plastic wands and stood out in the parking lot chanting made-up spells.

The latest example of an expensive, government-driven exercise in economic futility was the announcement by Bains late last week of federal funding for five business “superclusters.”

Over the next five years, Ottawa is going to “invest” nearly a billion of your tax dollars funding five centres around which innovative businesses and scientists are going to cluster to do super stuff. Okay, so that’s a weak description of what a “supercluster” is, but I’m not sure there is a good description.

When asked to explain, Bains told reporters, “It is a made-in-Canada Silicon Valley that will create tens of thousands of jobs – that’s what a supercluster is.”

No, that’s what you hope a supercluster will evolve into. But you can’t just go to a big-box store, plunk down an oversized subsidy cheque, and grab another Silicon Valley off the shelf. If it were that easy, every Tom, Dick or Navdeep would do it.

Creating the next Silicon Valley can’t be planned. And it certainly can’t be planned by some government committee and a bunch of handout-seeking “innovators.”

(WE should recall that Toronto mayor Sorry Tory wasted a pile of tax dollars trying to figure out how to make a Toronto version of New Orleans jazz/Bourbon St- and he also spent time studying The Grand Old Opry in hopes of giving Toronto a taste of country! Nothing has come of it of course and why should it? Our vaunted Hollywood North exists ONLY because govt has thrown MASSIVE tax breaks at it! Unlike politicians- movie makers are generally GOOD business people and they go were the money is- and with Toronto so sadly Broke there will be NO Grand Old Opry on Front St!

Want to know how the original Silicon Valley came into existence? William Shockley, who was crucial to the development of both the transistor and the semiconductor, and who shared the 1956 Nobel Prize in Physics for his efforts, is known as “the Father of Silicon Valley.” And he moved his Shockley Semiconductor Labs from New Jersey to Mountain View, Calif., in the late ‘50s because his mother, who lived in Palo Alto, was ailing and he wanted to be close to her during her declining years.

Bains and the Liberals would have better luck trying to find supersmart men or women who are devoted sons or daughters and pay their moving expenses.

(One has to think back to some other dubious govt money making schemes such as “Bubbles Galore” -the soft porn film that Hogs were certain would make Quebec into a porn flim powerhouse- and did NOT! Or the biker bar- complete with strippers- some of whom may not have worked voluntarily - that Hogs thought would be a good bet for a loan of our tax dollars- to the bikers!)

The biggest single problem with political and bureaucratic decision-making is that most of the factors deemed important have nothing to do with what makes a business successful. For instance, the Liberals just happened to find one worthy supercluster in each of Canada’s five regions. No region was left out; no region got two. That wasn’t a politically motivated coincidence in any way, was it?

Or how about the fact that the “protein industries” supercluster that is to be built on the Prairies is going to focus on “plant proteins.” What about meat? Meat’s a protein and the Prairies are very good at producing it. Oh, right, meat isn’t politically correct. So even if meat would make the protein supercluster successful – a business decision – it can’t be funded for political reasons.

The same kind of thinking that is behind the “superclusters” (which is nothing more than a catchy phrase thought up by a marketing consultant), is also behind Ontario’s decade-long “green energy” push. That was supposed to create hundreds of thousands of high-tech jobs as it transitioned Ontario into the “carbon-free future.”

(And we all know that mouldy green energy is simply a giant slush fund for Hogs and it only cleans out our wallets and leaves the dirt in the air! LIE-berals are creating super clusters of debt!)

And the Alberta NDP’s climate leadership/carbon tax was to lift Alberta out of recession.

(With Alberta economy improving now because oil prices are climbing slowly higher- and in part because of massive NDP borrowing- 9 billion dollars for 2018 alone! One would think that Ndpers would have learned from the Bob Rae Ontari-owe disaster!)

Nothing makes superclusters any more likely to succeed than those previous failures.

(LIE-berals are convinced that there is nothing more to govt than to make regular public announcements for LIE-beral friendly news media and then to collect gobs of gravy for stating vague platitudes on various subjects!)

If you can limit your posts to one short paragraph I'll read them.
 

spilledthebeer

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Is there a place so horrible and despised where i can go and pay the $12,999 in a lump sum? That would lower my taxes come income tax time right?

YOU ARE DREAMING LITTLE BOY! Your TRUE DEBT is over $150 grand and may be over $250 grand! Start adding up the TOTAL COST of ALL debts from the 4 levels of govt and you have a debt that looks more like the mortgage on a Toronto house!

WE hit the debt wall with Brian Mulroney and he was too chicken to tell us that so he signed NAFTA to prove to Yankees that we could be relied upon.

WE hit the debt wall HARD with Jean Chretien and his solution was to CUT federal transfwers to the provinces- with federal contributions going from 57 percent of Ontari-owe health care spending down to just 17 percent- while idiot LIE-berals told us it was Mike Harris who wrecked health care! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

And now we are butting against the debt wall yet again under Our idiot boy Justin! With the added bonus that as we hit the debt wall- Our idiot Boy is also killing NAFTA with our best trading partner! consider:

Here is an article exposing the wildly ridiculous views of Our idiot Boy Justin to our national values and economic needs. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau says criticism over social issues in NAFTA talks shows Conservatives just don't get it

PAOLA LORIGGIO, THE CANADIAN PRESS. FIRST POSTED: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2017 01:55 PM EDT | UPDATED: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2017 02:56 PM EDT

TORONTO — The strongest opposition to including issues such as gender equality in discussions over the North American Free Trade Agreement has come not from the United States but from within Canada, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Monday.

(Yeah- Yankees are NOT complaining- they are just IGNORING irrelevant LIE-beral crap!)

Speaking during a question and answer session at the first Toronto edition of the Women in the World conference, the prime minister said his government has faced hurdles in adding a gender chapter to NAFTA as it did in a free trade deal with Chile.

“The push back we’re getting is actually not from south of the border, the push back we’re getting is from Canadian Conservatives, who said ‘Oh no this is about economics, it’s about jobs... it’s not about rhetorical flourishes of being good on environment or being good on gender,”’ Trudeau said.

(OH right! Who gave Our idiot Boy the authority to whine to Yankees about the status of women in United States? What of former presidential Candidate Christine Ferrera who dropped out of politics shortly after she was caught as a tax cheat employing several undocumented aliens- Mexicans if I recall- at her home as cook and gardener etc? Her political career did not die of misogyny- it died from HER HYPOCRISY! And what of Hilary Clinton? She ran for president and was defeated- and is now on tour speaking about her political experiences and constantly AVOIDING certain subjects such as the serious allegations of corruption during the last days of the Bill Clinton administration in which bales of cash were reportedly brought to the White House for last minute influence purchases! She ran her campaign- was given a FAIR HEARING- and was rejected- and to her shame, she blames anti feminist forces rather than inadequacies in her campaign! Hilary simply did not present herself as entirely honest or genuinely logical to voters- and thats the trouble with LIE-berals who believe they are born to lead- without actually having a sensible platform!)

Here is a comment by Erin O'Toole at ErinOTooleMP
Working with gov't on NAFTA may mean constantly reminding them that it is a trade agreement not a campaign platform.

(I say she is not quite right here- NAFTA is NOT a social engineering experiment! Our idiot Boy is using women`s issues and native concerns as a distraction and shield to avoid discussing the REAL problem which is national security and Muslim terror- Yankees DO NOT want to import MUSLIM BOMBERS along with Cdn dairy and softwood lumber! But Trump cannot come out and speak plainly as 35 Yankee states have Canada as biggest trading partner and some state govts simply do not fear Muslim terror as much as others-it’s a sanctuary city mess- with LIE-berals buying Muslim votes on BOTH sides of the border and messing up trade talks with hypocrite positions!!)
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...eep-focus-on-economics-party-critic-says.html
5:48 PM - Sep 4, 2017

(And so Tories SHOULD support LIE-berlas IF AND ONLY IF LIE-berals STOP these distractions from the real issues! Sadly, LIE-berals seem prepared to DESTROY NAFTA and then blame the failure on Trump and on Tories instead of admitting that LIE-berals so despise Yankees that they cannot resist any chance to show their disdain by raising womens issues as if Yankees were Neanderthals! LIE-berals are prepared to hurt OUR economy if it means getting a chance to sneer at Trump and Tories naturally CANNOT support such crap!)

Here is a quote from an un- named LIE-beral: “To see that there is a supposedly responsible political party out there that still doesn’t get that gender equality is a fundamental economic issue as well as many other things, that environmental responsibility is fundamentally an economic issue highlights that we do have a lot of work still to do in Canada.”

Watch a live stream from the Women in the World Canada Summit here.

(I guess that quote above came from the Women in the World Summit- the politically correct movement that wants to arrange for women to take over and rule us without the bother of gaining any democratic support from anybody except other LIE-berals!)

Trudeau has positioned himself as a champion of gender equality since taking office, when he explained his decision to appoint a half-female cabinet with the headline-grabbing quip, “because it’s 2015.”

(That`s nice- appoint 50 percent women regardless of whether they are up to the job! One has only to look at either reverse racist Hedy Fry or anti democratic bully Marymam Monseff to see the failure of these jumped up mental midgets! This failure is Not a woman`s issue- it is simply a lack of individual intelligence!)

But he told the conference Monday that despite his government’s efforts to bolster the ranks of women in politics, retention has proven a challenge, in large part due to the vitriol aimed at female politicians.

(Hogwash! LIE-beral Minister Maryam Monseff was bounced back to LIE-beral back benches because of her outrageous behaviour in parliament when her pet electoral reform scam was rejected! Lie-beral Mp Hedy Fry- an immigrant from a Carribean Island- has been scorned in the past for her ridiculous views on
“systemic racism” in Canada. Fry made herself a laughing stock some years back when she informed parliament that “crosses are burning as we speak in British Columbia” a clear accusation- and BRAZEN LIE that she was forced to retract- that Ku Klux Klan was active in B.C! Fry is now leading the committee studying how best turn the reverse racist Islampophobia motion 103 into a law that may be used to silence and prevent any critic of LIE-beral policy from pointing out glaring holes in LIE-beral policy! And what of Iqra Khalid? She is sponsor of the insanely bigoted Islamphobia M- 103 garbage and has been rightly scorned for it!)

(So- three LIE-beral women- and all three scorned for their DELIBERATE and quite crude ATTACKS on main stream Cdn values- and Our idiot Boy wants to blame us for THEIR failings? HAHAHAHA!)

Trudeau said it is his goal to tackle the “hidden attitudes” that lead to inequity but stressed the matter won’t be resolved during his tenure -- rather, it will take generations.

(The idiot Boy is referring to the Pierre Trudope values now- which dictate that “Cdn Imperialism” must be destroyed- and Idiot Justin is a good son following in fathers footsteps! LIE-berals all exalt former prime minister Pierre Trudope and studiously IGNORE all his poison pen writings that expose his contempt for Cdn values! And LIE-berals are even more reluctant to define Cdn Imperialism than they are to explain their definition of Islamophobia! Its all about LIE-beral values and speaking in code to specific electoral groups. If LIE-berals revealed their full, complete set of true values, LIE-berals would never be elected ever again! Its why LIE-berals so often accused Harper of having a “hidden agenda”- one that NEVER materialized! LIE-berals were simply trying to distract us from THEIR true agenda!)

The Liberal government recently tabled a federal budget that promised to consider the way programs and policies impact different genders in different ways.

(A Cdn federal budget is one thing- ramming socialist garbage down the throats of Yankees simply trying to deal with murderous Muslim raiders setting up shop in Canada with LIE-beral aid is another! LIE-berals are two faced!)

But the government is also facing criticism over the troubled national inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls, with some families calling for a complete reboot of the process.

(Poor Cdn natives- they just don’t get it! They are being used as tools by LIE-berals! There will be no resolution to the Missing and Murdered Women inquiry because there is NO NEW information! Only hard facts can resolve this festering sore and there are none available! There is only shameful political posturing by LIE-berals who do not dare speak freely for fear of outraging the Cdn public! Natives insist that racism is behind the native women`s troubles and it is understandable that families with missing members will be upset but allowing a rabid few radicals to spout hate without any proof will not heal the wounds! And one can understand why natives would rather blame “racist” cops and lazy govt than discuss the dangerous life styles of so many natives that render them vulnerable to injury and death- but LIES help nobody- except LIE-beerals!)

(As usual LIE-berals have acted without first considering the long term consequences of the Inquiry and are now backing away from the Inquiry as it has started a firestorm that will lose them more votes than they hoped to gain!)

When asked about the controversy during Monday’s talk, Trudeau admitted there were some difficulties but said the process was “on the right track.”

(Yeah- its on track all right- doing nothing serious and encouraging radicals to blame it all on “white guilt and systemic racism”!)
 

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