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[EagleSmack]

But when its 99% chance the DU ammo is causing birth defects, then theres no proof, and nothing should be done about it.

Why is it that every time its inconvenient its always, sorry its not 100% proven. And when its convenient 99% chance is close enough?

DU doesn't cause birth defects. No proof... just propaganda because the rounds are so efficient.

This all started after the first Gulf War when the allies pretty much wiped out every Iraqi tank and AV while losing perhaps two tanks. The lefties didn't like that.

 

[petros]

DU doesn't cause birth defects. No proof... just propaganda because the rounds are so efficient.

This all started after the first Gulf War when the allies pretty much wiped out every Iraqi tank and AV while losing perhaps two tanks. The lefties didn't like that.

What happens to DU when it burns EagleSmack?

 

[EagleSmack]

What happens to DU when it burns EagleSmack?

It gets hot?

We've already had this discussion right? We both know how it will go and end. All you need to do is go the the W.H.O and get their report. No proof. A lot of whining and bitching about it, but no proof.

 

[petros]

No proof? That's hillarious man. I know you are smarter than that.

Even the Office of the Secreary of Defense admits to it.

Find me ONE study that says depleted uranium in vapour form is safe.

I've seen all the paper weight tests but when it burns it's no longer going to hold that paper down. Is it?

 

[EagleSmack]

No proof? That's hillarious man. I know you are smarter than that.

Even the Office of the Secreary of Defense admits to it.

Does the Office of the SecDef have better knowledge on DU? I remember you showing me those safety films. I know that DU is toxic and should be treated with care, but so is gasoline and C4. Lots of materials are toxic and we handle them every day.

The fact is that there is no proof that it causes all those birth defects and increases cancer. Every time you fly on an airplane you are sitting on DU, they use DU as ballast on sail boats!

The bottom line is people do not like what DU does on a battlefield.

 

[petros]

Find me ONE study that says depleted uranium in vapour form is safe.

 

[EagleSmack]

Find me ONE study that says depleted uranium in vapour form is safe.

Yes, when DU vaporizes in the interior of a tank... it is not safe.

I've seen all the paper weight tests but when it burns it's no longer going to hold that paper down. Is it?

Clever... but it doesn't change the facts.

 

[petros]

It doesn't escape from tanks and the vapour doesn't attach to dust and float around the planet and get inhaled by American soldiers as they cruise around breathing DU vapour/dust all ****ing day, day after day?

You are killing your own and thinking it's a good thing?

Are you okay?

 

[EagleSmack]

It doesn't escape from tanks and the vapour doesn't attach to dust and float around the planet and get inhaled by American soldiers as they cruise around breathing DU vapour/dust all ****ing day, day after day?

You are killing your own and thinking it's a good thing?

Are you okay?

You keep saying that but there is no proof! Vets who have been around DU are no more likely to get cancer than people who are not around it. The numbers don't support you.


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The World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations which is responsible for setting health research norms and standards, providing technical support to countries and monitoring and assessing health trends, states that no risk of reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects have been reported in humans due to DU exposure.


Yeah, I'm Ok. I've been around DU. My two sons are ok as well. All my Marine buddies who have been around DU are ok, and their kids are as well. All my pals who were in the Army and were around DU are fine and their kids are fina as well. WTF?

 

[petros]

Pyrophoricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations which is responsible for setting health research norms and standards, providing technical support to countries and monitoring and assessing health trends, states that no risk of reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects have been reported in humans due to DU exposure.

DU is not DU vapour. Keeping looking.....

Have fun!

 

[EagleSmack]

Pyrophoricity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

DU is not DU vapour. Keeping looking.....

Have fun!

I just read this. What does this prove? Nothing.

Keep trying.

Have fun!

 

[petros]

Can you inhale a shell? No! Can you inhale a vapourized one? YES!

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is the burning uranium in Japan of huge concern to the Japs?

BECAUSE THEY CAN BREATH IT IN!

 

[EagleSmack]

Can you inhale a shell? No! Can you inhale a vapourized one? YES!

Why is that so hard to understand?

Why is the burning uranium in Japan of huge concern to the Japs?

BECAUSE THEY CAN BREATH IT IN!

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"External exposure to radiation from pure depleted uranium is less of a concern because the alpha particle emitted by its isotopes travel only a few centimeters in air or can be stopped by a sheet of paper. Also, the low concentration of uranium-235 that remains in depleted uranium emits only a small amount of low-energy gamma radiation."


A few centimeters... Well there goes your vapor theory.

Keep at it.

 

[petros]

That's not vapour is it? What do they say about INTERNAL exposure?

 

[EagleSmack]

That's not vapour is it?

It travels in the air for only a few centimeters.

BadaBing.

What do they say about INTERNAL exposure?

Don't eat it! Drink a cup of gas and you're screwed, being around the fumes and you're not.

The evidence is not on your side. The facts are on my side.

The DU opponents are just pissed because it's an efficient weapon. They didn't think it was fair.

 

[petros]

Don't eat it! Drink a cup of gas and you're screwed, being around the fumes and you're not.

The evidence is not on your side. The facts are on my side.

The DU opponents are just pissed because it's an efficient weapon. They didn't think it was fair.

Should they add DU to gasoline like they did lead? Why did they remove lead by the way? Was it healthy after it was burned and turned into vapours?

Do yourself a favour. Learn what a metal fume is and piece that together with pyrophoric then piece that to inhaled radiation and see what you come up with.

 

[EagleSmack]

Should they add DU to gasoline like they did lead? Why did they remove lead by the way? Was it healthy after it was burned and turned into vapours?

Because lead was proven to be dangerous and have significant health risks I would guess.

What would DU add to the performance of gas? Or are you just getting silly?

Do yourself a favour. Learn what a metal fume is and piece that together with pyrophoric then piece that to inhaled radiation and see what you come up with.

What would that do Petros? DU only travels a few centimeters in the air which is something that I just learned. So where is this harmful vapor?

Again, the facts are on my side and we're going to continue using DU, as well as England, France, Russia, Germany, the Netherlands, Japan, etc.

Yet I bet all those countries banned asbestos, except Russia.

 

[petros]

So where is this harmful vapor?

How does a fume (smoke or better known as vapour) of a metallic substance burning at 6000C travel just a few cm? How do you not inhale it once those particles settle on a dusty desert?

 

[EagleSmack]

How does a fume (smoke or better known as vapour) of a metallic substance burning at 6000C travel just a few cm? How do you not inhale it once those particles settle on a dusty desert?

Ask the experts. They're the ones that said it. Perhaps you know more Petros and can prove them wrong?

I would love to be able to speak to DU particles and isotopes being heavier than other particles but I can't with any expertise. And nor can you. If it is a heavy particle then it simply won't become airborne like other fibers or particles. That is what makes DU so effective, it's heavy density.

 

[petros]

Ask the experts. They're the ones that said it. Perhaps you know more Petros and can prove them wrong?

I would love to be able to speak to DU particles and isotopes being heavier than other particles but I can't with any expertise. And nor can you. If it is a heavy particle then it simply won't become airborne like other fibers or particles. That is what makes DU so effective, it's heavy density.

What you keep coming across is DU in a metallic solid form not DU after the pyrphoric reaction has turned it into a breathable vapour or "metal fume".

A penny in your pocket is perfectly fine but would you lock yourself in the bathroom with a blow torch and burn it? Do you think you would get sick or die from breathing those fumes? Yes or no?

What makes radon gas dangerous?

Radon gas is from the decay of uranium. It kills 21,000 Americans yearly and is the second leading cause of lung cancer after smoking.

What makes you think gases (vapour) from DU after a phyrophoric chain reaction won't do the same when inhaled?