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petros

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You can't burn uranium without there being airborne particles PERIOD. Daiichi wouldn't be a concern. Chernobyl wouldn't have killed thousands upon thousand if burned urainium weren't able to go into an aerosol.

No... it's not. Have you not been following along?

Facts... don't they suck Petros?

I don't even have to call you names either.
What facts the one you didn't understand and keep referring to about DU in a solid? What have you learned today about uranium and alpha particles when they are in an aerosol state?
 

EagleSmack

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You can't burn uranium without there being airborne particles IN THE NANO SCALE

Oh brother. You just can't accepted it. I get that.


" External exposure to radiation from pure depleted uranium is less of a concern because the alpha particle emitted by its isotopes travel only a few centimeters in air or can be stopped by a sheet of paper."

Oh what's the use.
 

petros

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Oh brother. You just can't accepted it. I get that.


" External exposure to radiation from pure depleted uranium is less of a concern because the alpha particle emitted by its isotopes travel only a few centimeters in air or can be stopped by a sheet of paper."

Oh what's the use.
What does the EPA say about inhaled uranium in an aerosol or vapour?

Good things or bad things?
 

EagleSmack

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What facts the one you didn't understand and keep referring to about DU in a solid? What have you learned today about uranium and alpha particles when they are in an aerosol state?

Have you learned about different densities? Different types of radioative materials?

Have you read that the W.H.O has determined their are no trends or statistics that show an increase in cancer rates in areas where DU is used.

Face it Petros.
 

petros

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Have you learned about different densities? Different types of radioative materials?

Have you read that the W.H.O has determined their are no trends or statistics that show an increase in cancer rates in areas where DU is used.

Face it Petros.
The WHO is right but the EPA is lieing?
 

TenPenny

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DU particles aren't airborne long enough to be dangerous. Heavy... dense... etc. They don't float around.

Particles are not vapors.

I don't know if what is said about DU vapors is true or not, but I definitely see that you and Petros are talking about different things.

I don't know if you are willfully not understanding what he says, or just confused. It's fairly amusing, though.

He is talking about vapors.
You are talking about particles.

They are not the same thing.
 

petros

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The WHO is right but the EPA is lieing?
Want to work in a uranium mine? I can get you on $42 an hr to start. We'll send you down the hole to do the work the robots do because breathing U particles is safe according to the WHO. You'll do fine.

Particles are not vapors.

I don't know if what is said about DU vapors is true or not, but I definitely see that you and Petros are talking about different things.

I don't know if you are willfully not understanding what he says, or just confused. It's fairly amusing, though.

He is talking about vapors.
You are talking about particles.

They are not the same thing.
Thank you!

Kinda like when I said this? "What you keep coming across is DU in a metallic solid form not DU after the pyrphoric reaction has turned it into a breathable vapour or "metal fume".
 

EagleSmack

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What does the EPA say about inhaled uranium in an aerosol or vapour?

Good things or bad things?

Who cares... different topic. I know what they say about DU... which is the topic. True?

Or do you just want to say radiation is dangerous? Yeah, I'd agree to that.
 

petros

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It's not a different topic. When a DU round is fired and it hits it's target it goes pyrophoric burning at 6000C and turns to a breathable aerosol chalked full of ****ing alpha particles which get lodged in your lungs and can take years and years to give you cancer.
 

EagleSmack

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Particles are not vapors.

I don't know if what is said about DU vapors is true or not, but I definitely see that you and Petros are talking about different things.

I don't know if you are willfully not understanding what he says, or just confused. It's fairly amusing, though.

He is talking about vapors.
You are talking about particles.

They are not the same thing.

The debate was about DU... now he is bringing in all types, and forms of radiation because he has no evidence that supports his claim the DU causes increased level of cancer and birth defects.

So... he's moving goal posts to expand the various dangers of radiation.

Now go make some tea for yourself. ;)
 

petros

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No goal posts have been moved unless your talking about that moronic toad post?

When you breath that alpha particle in it's going to **** with your lungs mutating cells 3cm around it.

Does that paint a rosie picture?
 

EagleSmack

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It's not a different topic. When a DU round is fired and it hits it's target it goes pyrophoric burning at 6000C and turns to a breathable aerosol chalked full of ****ing alpha particles which get lodged in your lungs and can take years and years to give you cancer.

Whereas the alpha particles of DU will only travel a few centimeters.

Well Desert Storm was years and years ago and the Desert Storm Vets just aren't getting cancer any more than anyone else.

The facts aren't on your side. They're on mine kiddo.

Sorry.
 

petros

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Whereas the alpha particles of DU will only travel a few centimeters.

Well Desert Storm was years and years ago and the Desert Storm Vets just aren't getting cancer any more than anyone else.

The facts aren't on your side. They're on mine kiddo.

Sorry.
Yup they'll travel 3cm right into your lung cells after you've inhaled it.

Read 100% of the EPA paper on inhaled radioactive materials.
 

EagleSmack

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No goal posts have been moved unless your talking about that moronic toad post?

That was just an example. I thought you'd understand it better if I made it simpler.

When you breath that alpha particle in it's going to **** with your lungs mutating cells 3cm around it.

Does that paint a rosie picture?

Yet, there is not an increase in cancer in people exposed to DU than ones who aren't.

Things getting rosier?

Yup they'll travel 3cm right into your lung cells after you've inhaled it.

Read 100% of the EPA paper on inhaled radioactive materials.

Does it say anything... ANYTHING about DU?

You don't have facts son... admit it.
 

TenPenny

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The debate was about DU... now he is bringing in all types, and forms of radiation because he has no evidence that supports his claim the DU causes increased level of cancer and birth defects.

So... he's moving goal posts to expand the various dangers of radiation.

Now go make some tea for yourself. ;)

If you say so.

You just don't seem to grasp that it's DU vapors that he is talking about.
Carry on, it's quite amusing reading. I've had a lovely cup of tea.
 

petros

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You posted the fact that DU gives off alpha articles. I posted the fact it (DU, alpha particles and all) goes pyrphoric and turns into a vapour, The alpha particles attach themselves to soot, water vapour, dust, sand, oxidized materials, they make their own ceramics all which float freely and are breathable and kill lung cells within 3cm of where they lodge in your lungs.


Any questions?