What's Trump Done Now?

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so far only one Trump staffer has gone to jail. So he's 16 to the plus side.

of course that is going to change.
 
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Separating children from parents at the border isn’t just cruel. It’s torture.




We already knew it was inhumane. It also violates international law.

In two speeches last week in the border states of Arizona and California, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that as a matter of enforcement, if an unauthorized migrant brings a child across the United States-Mexico border without documentation, “we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law. If you don’t like that, then don’t smuggle children over our border.”
This means undocumented children and parents will be separated — a tactic meant to deter migrant parents, including many asylum seekers, such as those who’ve traveled through Central America in a caravan in recent weeks, from crossing the border in the first place. Human rights organizations such as Amnesty International have argued that this policy change is inhumane, and it is. But evidence from developmental neuroscience suggests it is more than inhumane.
It’s also, by definition, torture.
Under federal law, which adopts the United Nations definition, torture is: “any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as … punishing him or her for an act he or she or a third person … has committed or is suspected of having committed.” And though in theory any action inflicting such suffering is banned, that is what is inflicted by separating parents and children in border detention.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...torture/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6caf859454c7


Not that Trump and the swamp dwellers give a rat's ass.
 
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unable to carry out most of the asshat plans they have they'll have to settle for this.
 
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Cliffy said:
In two speeches last week in the border states of Arizona and California, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that as a matter of enforcement, if an unauthorized migrant brings a child across the United States-Mexico border without documentation, “we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law. If you don’t like that, then don’t smuggle children over our border.”
This means undocumented children and parents will be separated — a tactic meant to deter migrant parents, including many asylum seekers, such as those who’ve traveled through Central America in a caravan in recent weeks, from crossing the border in the first place. Human rights organizations such as Amnesty International have argued that this policy change is inhumane, and it is. But evidence from developmental neuroscience suggests it is more than inhumane.
It’s also, by definition, torture.
Under federal law, which adopts the United Nations definition, torture is: “any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as … punishing him or her for an act he or she or a third person … has committed or is suspected of having committed.” And though in theory any action inflicting such suffering is banned, that is what is inflicted by separating parents and children in border detention.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...torture/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6caf859454c7
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Fake news.

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Hello., Godwin.
 
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Cliffy said:
Separating children from parents at the border isn’t just cruel. It’s torture.




We already knew it was inhumane. It also violates international law.

In two speeches last week in the border states of Arizona and California, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that as a matter of enforcement, if an unauthorized migrant brings a child across the United States-Mexico border without documentation, “we will prosecute you, and that child will be separated from you as required by law. If you don’t like that, then don’t smuggle children over our border.”
This means undocumented children and parents will be separated — a tactic meant to deter migrant parents, including many asylum seekers, such as those who’ve traveled through Central America in a caravan in recent weeks, from crossing the border in the first place. Human rights organizations such as Amnesty International have argued that this policy change is inhumane, and it is. But evidence from developmental neuroscience suggests it is more than inhumane.
It’s also, by definition, torture.
Under federal law, which adopts the United Nations definition, torture is: “any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as … punishing him or her for an act he or she or a third person … has committed or is suspected of having committed.” And though in theory any action inflicting such suffering is banned, that is what is inflicted by separating parents and children in border detention.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...torture/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6caf859454c7


Not that Trump and the swamp dwellers give a rat's ass.
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Where they not warned that parents will be separated from children before they crossed the border illegally, until their hearing and refugee status determined? Typical of the open boarder crowd to ignore the warnings and then cry foul when it happens. Even here in Canada we knew they were going to separate families.
 
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Twin_Moose said:
Where they not warned that parents will be separated from children before they crossed the border illegally, until their hearing and refugee status determined? Typical of the open boarder crowd to ignore the warnings and then cry foul when it happens. Even here in Canada we knew they were going to separate families.
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1500 of those kids have gone missing. ICE has no idea where they are. And there a charges that there is systemic child abuse, both physical and sexual. Many fear the missing kids have been sold into human trafficking.
 
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1500 of those kids have gone missing. ICE has no idea where they are. And there a charges that there is systemic child abuse, both physical and sexual. Many fear the missing kids have been sold into human trafficking.
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Utter bullshit.

Any time you see a round number you know it’s bullshit.
 
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1500 of those kids have gone missing. ICE has no idea where they are. And there a charges that there is systemic child abuse, both physical and sexual. Many fear the missing kids have been sold into human trafficking.
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I think you have a couple of stories mixed together here, families were not split up before the bus tour, and they were well warned that it was going to happen.

Sessions: "Zero-tolerance" policy may cause families to be split at border

A "zero-tolerance" policy toward people who enter the United States illegally may cause families to be separated while parents are prosecuted, U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said it would refer all arrests for illegal entry to federal prosecutors, throwing its weight behind Sessions' policy announced last month to vastly expand criminal prosecutions of people with few or no previous offenses. A conviction for illegal entry carries a maximum penalty of six months in custody for first-time crossers, though they usually do far less time, and two years for repeat offenses. "If you cross the border unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple," Sessions told reporters on a mesa overlooking the Pacific Ocean, where a border barrier separating San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico juts out into the ocean.
Nearly one of every four Border Patrol arrests on the Mexican border from October through April was someone who came in a family, meaning any large increase in prosecutions is likely to cause parents to be separated from their children while they face charges and do time in jail.
US Attorney General Jeff Sessions says he's placed a "zero tolerance policy" for anyone who enters the country illegally on the Mexican border.
Children who are separated from their parents would be put under supervision of the U.S. Health and Human Services Department, Sessions said. The department's Office of Refugee Resettlement releases children traveling alone to family and places them in shelters.
"We don't want to separate families, but we don't want families to come to the border illegally and attempt to enter into this country improperly," Sessions said. "The parents are subject to prosecution while children may not be. So, if we do our duty and prosecute those cases, then children inevitably for a period of time might be in different conditions."
A heckler interrupted Sessions on a megaphone, shouting, "Why are you doing this? Do you have a heart?"
Thomas Homan, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's acting director, said there is no "blanket policy" to separate families as a way to deter others, echoing recent comments by Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen. But he said immigration authorities have long separated families if they have reason to doubt the relationship or if parent is prosecuted.
"Every law enforcement agency in this country separates parents from children when they're arrested for a crime," Homan said alongside Sessions. "There is no new policy. This has always been the policy.
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Trump knocks Dems for tweeting 2014 images of children in cages at border

President Trump blasted Democrats on Tuesday for mistakenly posting a series of photos online purporting to show undocumented immigrant children being held in cages, accusing liberals of trying to make his administration "look bad."
"Democrats mistakenly tweet 2014 pictures from Obama's term showing children from the Border in steel cages," Trump tweeted. "They thought it was recent pictures in order to make us look bad, but backfires. Dems must agree to Wall and new Border Protection for good of country...Bipartisan Bill!" Some of the photos began surfacing this week on Twitter, with a handful of liberal activists claiming that the children in the images were being detained by the Trump administration.
In fact, the photos were originally published in 2014 by the Arizona Republic, meaning that the children had been held by the Obama administration, rather than he Trump administration.
After the error was pointed out, many Twitter users who had tweeted the photos deleted their posts, although some remained online. Trump accused Democrats over the weekend of refusing to repeal a policy separating immigrant families at the border. The tweet came after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced earlier this month that the Trump administration would prosecute immigrant families separately after they enter the U.S.
"If you cross the border unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It's that simple," Sessions said. "If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you. And that child may be separated from you, as required by law."
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Well Cliffy turns out that child abuse was old news and it was the Obama administration that was responsible for it
 
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Trumps slaps $50 billion tariffs on China.


That's $50 billion that the American consumer can throw into the kitty to help pay for that trillion dollar tax gift to the 1%

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