What religious affiliation do you think God is?

Dexter Sinister

Dexter Sinister

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Vereya said:
This fact makes me picture the founders of Christianity as shallow women-haters with lots of personal complexes.
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Yep, I have to agree with that one. All you have to do is read St. Paul's letters in the New Testament to know that. It's easy to make an argument that Paul apparently hated and feared women based on what he's reported to have written about them. It's also pretty clear that he thought Jesus would return within his lifetime and put an end to everything human and secular, so perhaps he might be forgiven for some of his folly. But that's a reason, not an excuse. There's no excuse.
 
look3467

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Dexter Sinister said:
Yep, I have to agree with that one. All you have to do is read St. Paul's letters in the New Testament to know that. It's easy to make an argument that Paul apparently hated and feared women based on what he's reported to have written about them. It's also pretty clear that he thought Jesus would return within his lifetime and put an end to everything human and secular, so perhaps he might be forgiven for some of his folly. But that's a reason, not an excuse. There's no excuse.
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There is the old and there is the new.

The old is what Jesus came to do away with as evident by His rejection.

Jesus ate with described sinners, forgave an adulterous women, never gave gender bias, never turned away a soul who had the list bit of faith.

The Gentile centurion, whose child was sick had faith that this man of God would heal his child if but Jesus would just say the words.

Jesus said of him, "greater faith had he not found in all the land", and the one to have it was a Gentile military man.

So, the Apostle Paul, had being given instructions to preach, teach and make disciples of men.

Of course like all starting groups and organizations, a constitution had to be established as a guide.

If you've read the old testament, you will find that women were second class citizens, and was part of their culture.

This carried out in Paul's thinking as being like a child not yet fully understanding what all God had for Him to say.
The new testament is a workbook, and in this work book, is where we learn to deal with all these subjects .
Christianity stated as a child with instructions that had to be worked out.

As this child Christian was growing up, it encountered all these issues that had to be dealt with.
The bible being the source and the guiding word.

Today, this child teenager, has grown considerably, yet still much to go.
But forgiveness is there in the trying, for it is a trial and error thing.

If you have been reading my posts, you will notice an attitude of complete inclusion of all souls into the salvation plan of God.

I would say, that this is the attitude of an adult Christian, verses a child or teenagers.

To look at all mankind with an eye of compassion, is what Jesus did when He was here.

Those who wanted of Him, He freely gave, and that was without discrimination.

That is the ultimate full grown Christian attitude, to be as like Jesus.

Love, therefore, being the absolute motive for all actions.

Peace>>>AJ
 
talloola

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look3467 said:
There is the old and there is the new.
So, the Apostle Paul, had being given instructions to preach, teach and make disciples of men.

If you have been reading my posts, you will notice an attitude of complete inclusion of all souls into the salvation plan of God.

Iis the ultimate full grown Christian attitude, to be as like Jesus.

Do your thoughts ever go anywhere else, 'just curious'. Do you do other stuff just for 'fun' that
has nothing to do with religion, and which allows you to totally 'NOT' think about godly stuff.
Sorry to pry, but maybe you can change my 'vision' of you, as I picture you with your nose
permanately stuck in the bible, or, talking to others about religion all the time.
I would like to think that perhaps you, well. oh, I don't know, just do something else, and I
mean let your mind forget about god, just for a little while.
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talloola said:
look3467 said:
There is the old and there is the new.
So, the Apostle Paul, had being given instructions to preach, teach and make disciples of men.

If you have been reading my posts, you will notice an attitude of complete inclusion of all souls into the salvation plan of God.

This is the ultimate full grown Christian attitude, to be as like Jesus.

Do your thoughts ever go anywhere else, 'just curious'. Do you do other stuff just for 'fun' that
has nothing to do with religion, and which allows you to totally 'NOT' think about godly stuff.
Sorry to pry, but maybe you can change my 'vision' of you, as I picture you with your nose
permanently stuck in the bible, or, talking to others about religion all the time.
I would like to think that perhaps you, well. oh, I don't know, just do something else, and I
mean let your mind forget about god, just for a little while.
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That's a valid question. And I am happy to answer it truthfully.

With what I know and understand about God, I see God in everything. Especially in human relationships.
Apart from humans, everything is set to it's own course, the weather, the rain, the falling stars etc..
But for the humans, things are not set, but are based on choices made given a set of beliefs and understandings.

I see people suffering, many for bad choices made, and some well, had no choice. That is the luck of the draw, sort of speak.
The bible speaks of time and chance happening to all.

My concern is to share a God with those who know Him not, so as to make their lives easier to live.
This life can be hell for some, and compassion is the only help we can give. It is an outward expression that helps the flesh, but God comforts the spirit which is in the inside.

I have a wonderful family, all six children and fixing to have my 8th grand child. I love them all as if I loved one.

We gather together as often as we can, for we all live in the same town.

Other than that, I interact with as many folks as I can with respect to their beliefs.
If I find that they want to talk/discuss religious beliefs, I am happy to engage them respectfully.

If I know what they don't, and that is that all of them are going to be saved now or at the end of their lives, I have no problem with what they choose to believe.

I am not pressed to win them over to my views, but rather to share my views and let them be as they choose.

I am an independent believer attached to no church affiliation, but do hold a foundation that is fully described in the bible as the God of the universe and Jesus being that foundation for my day and time.

I can see all around me all kinds of beliefs, views and practices and in which my God allows as a matter of free choice.

In your case, your choice is yours to live with as is mine, mine.
I can still have a friendship with you based solely on the basis of love one for another.

I feel that I am in a position spiritually, that can absorb anything and all things that this world can throw at me short of my life, and still maintain peace towards God.

If you've read the story of Shaderac , Neshacc and Abednego in the scriptures, you will find that they were threatened to be thrown into the fiery furnace if they did not denounce their god.

Their reply? Even if our God does not rescue us, we will still love Him.

Now that is a power that only God in them could have answered as they did.

That same power is in me to love my enemies, for only in Gods power could I possibly do it.

I'm afraid that in my own power I would fail miserably.

I speak to all believers and unbelievers in the same way, in the power of the loving God, for if He loves every soul regardless of who they are, then I must too.

My life is fulfilled in Him, my expectations are always in my favor since I know He listens to my pleas.

I am at peace, content and willing to share this wonderful experience.

I pray for all of you on this forum for your lives to prosper as God gives blessings, whether you all believe it or not, doesn't matter, my prayers still stand and are answered on His terms.

You all are intelligent folks; some with high IQ's, and with eloquent delivery of speech.

I am not so, but I am a spiritually oriented individual with limited abilities to express my views, yet I am not dissuade any.

I hope this gives you a clue as to have a picture of me not with nose in the bible, but rather one who knows the bible as written in my heart, to live a normal life yet share God's love.

Peace>>>AJ
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Vereya

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Minority Observer84 said:
I would say ir makes him insane , which would explain a lot about this world .:p
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This world's perfect in itself. All the unpleasantness in it is caused by the unpleasantness in the people's heads coming out.
Thus a simple recipy for creating a paradise on Earth - get the unpleasantness out of people's heads, and there you go! :smile:
 
Minority Observer84

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Vereya said:
This world's perfect in itself. All the unpleasantness in it is caused by the unpleasantness in the people's heads coming out.
Thus a simple recipy for creating a paradise on Earth - get the unpleasantness out of people's heads, and there you go! :smile:
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I completety agree , I also happen to think religion is a vector for said hatred and divisiveness , hence I dream of a world without it , I;am enough of a realist to know it;s here to stay at least for my life time :-?
 
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