WHAT IS LEFTISM?

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Vanni Fucci said:
Correct you are Andygal,

Fascism Defined

Fascism (in Italian, fascismo), capitalized, refers to the right-wing authoritarian political movement which ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini.

I would have thought you'd know better than that ITN...

Why do you assume Vanni I agree with everything that article states? I found it an interesting topic for discussion rather than the usual discussions of Conservative and Liberal parties who claim they are Leftists or Rightists but are not.

We can use a little change of pace I think also, besides if you didn't have me and a few others to argue with what fun with this board be :p
 

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"Whatever else the Leftist may be, the bedrock of Leftism is a strong dislike or even a hatred of the way the world is."

"I think the basic guide is that the further Left we go, the more government intervention in people's lives is demanded and practiced. All governments exercise power over people's lives in one way or another but the more Leftist you are, the more pervasive and all-encompassing you will want that government meddling, influence and direction to be."

Does anyone leaning left deny these two statements?
 

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Well you can't win for loosing. You’re either a fascist, or a neo-con....

Or as the Rev indicates so eloquently (as always), scum.



“Etymologically, the use of the word Fascism in modern Italian political history stretches back to the 1890s in the form of fasci, which were radical left-wing political factions that proliferated in the decades before World War I. The adoption of this term by the Fascist Party reflected the previous involvement of a number of them in radical left politics”
 

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Here's a Nolam test chart I found. The traditional right, high on economic freedom but low on personal freedom, lies at one corner of the chart; the traditional left, high on personal freedom but low on economic freedom, lies at the opposite corner. Interesting results I got for myself but not unexpected, give it a shot:







 

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Jay,
Take note of the color of my name. That being said, you just tried to goad the rev, its not going to fly around here anymore. This is not a war zone, and if you continue to try and make it such, your going to be banned from here.
 

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peapod said:
Jay,
Take note of the color of my name. That being said, you just tried to goad the rev, its not going to fly around here anymore. This is not a war zone, and if you continue to try and make it such, your going to be banned from here.

I'm going to hold you to that statement peapod, I hope you excercise your "authority" objectively. :wink:
 

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Reverend Blair said:
5. The radical right have no morals or scruples at all. They don't care about people. They don't care about anything except for the profit margin and their religious mythology. They are scum.

Pea I was quoting him....and if you read this thread, you would know that. Or is it something else......
 

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You hold on to that and whatever else you got handy there jay. You will be a few less now of your goading pak. I repeat! Post your replies and stop trying to goad the rev.
 

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Reverend Blair said:
Everything you said is completely untrue, Blue.

1. The radical right, who you fully support, would ban individual choises like abortion and gay marriage.

2. The radical right, which you fully support, would increase the powers of police. That would not only infringe on individual rights, but grossly increase the size of government through police forces and and the proson system.

The radical right, which you fully support, would also increase the size of the miltary by a massive amount. The military is, the last time I checked, part of the government.

3. The radical right, which you fully support, wants change only to give more power to large corporations and other anti-democratic institutions. They have no plans to increase true democracy.

4. The radical right, which you fully support, put their personal profits before the rights of people.

5. The radical right have no morals or scruples at all. They don't care about people. They don't care about anything except for the profit margin and their religious mythology. They are scum.

Ok. Insane, maybe?

lets change that to >>> Insane, You betcha!
 

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Sure I am Jay, here is what you posted in reply to thinks post. It going up in the moderator forum. Its goading and you know it, stop playing games and stick to the topics without trying to goad the rev and turning this place into a war zone. Andem can judge for himself the tone of your post and what you were doing. Your post Jay.

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Well you can't win for loosing. You’re either a fascist, or a neo-con....

Or as the Rev indicates so eloquently (as always), scum.
 

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I think the one thing that can be said about the left and the right and it be 100% true is that neither side likes the other and neither side will acknowledge any right doing of the other and jump al lover the bad doings.

(that was 1 long run on sentence)
 

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Yes it is my post Pea.

I was (FYI) noting that some of the post here were indicating that if your a current conservative, you are either
1: a fascist
2: a neo-con
3: scum
I can now add a fourth: insane.

I used the word “eloquently” to describe the most demeaning of all the terms, as used by the Rev, scum

He was basically calling conservatives scum Pea, and I am conservative. Do you get it now?
 

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Re: RE: WHAT IS LEFTISM?

Twila said:
I think the one thing that can be said about the left and the right and it be 100% true is that neither side likes the other and neither side will acknowledge any right doing of the other and jump al lover the bad doings.

(that was 1 long run on sentence)

So both sides should be thankful for centrists ;)
 

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Re: RE: WHAT IS LEFTISM?

Twila said:
I think the one thing that can be said about the left and the right and it be 100% true is that neither side likes the other and neither side will acknowledge any right doing of the other and jump al lover the bad doings.

(that was 1 long run on sentence)


And I think the divisions between them are widening Twila.
 

Jay

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It's silly that I have to defend myself from "QUICK SIX GUN POD".

I think she just doesn't like me and hadn't had coffee yet this morning.