What Canada should do when trying to deal with USA on the Tariff issue.
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Get rid of Chinese auto parts In new vehicles. That's not a big deal is it?
Only if you want the vehicle to go someplace. If you're just using it as a lawn ornament, you don't really need the Chinese parts.
As vindictive as I want to be and cut off everything going to the US, realistically I know we can't do that and we do have to deal/negotiate with them, because that's just how the world is now.
I WOULD like to see all trade as conditional though - any time Trump mentions Canada as a 51st state, or degrades it or threatens sovereignty in any way, shape or form, tariffs go up, and continue to go up until his large orange ass makes a public apology (and yes I know, he'd never do that). Or we cut goods going to the US instead of putting tariffs up. Penalties that cost them, in any case.
Meanwhile do as we're doing - deal with the rest of the world (even China, as much as I hate it) and offer good trade deals.
And I'd love to see Canada open borders for the brain drain the US is having, get some of those people up here. Hell, take on specialists and have them re-create their organizations here - like NOAA meteorologists for an example making a Canadian version - but basically just do what they did in the US.
I WOULD like to see all trade as conditional though - any time Trump mentions Canada as a 51st state, or degrades it or threatens sovereignty in any way, shape or form, tariffs go up, and continue to go up until his large orange ass makes a public apology (and yes I know, he'd never do that). Or we cut goods going to the US instead of putting tariffs up. Penalties that cost them, in any case.
Meanwhile do as we're doing - deal with the rest of the world (even China, as much as I hate it) and offer good trade deals.
And I'd love to see Canada open borders for the brain drain the US is having, get some of those people up here. Hell, take on specialists and have them re-create their organizations here - like NOAA meteorologists for an example making a Canadian version - but basically just do what they did in the US.
I don't think they'll miss McCain/Cavendish fries or Cpt Hindgrinder.
Be transactional, like Trump. You make a deal, that's it. No credit, no working relationship. Every transaction is hostile and there are no patterns.
The main thing is to not impose retaliatory tariffs. All they do is cost Canadian consumers, and increase government coffers. Exactly what Carnage wants.
Eliminate all interprovincial trade barriers.
Pipelines both ways. Our best export is oil and gas. Sell them. Preferably after refining in BC near the ports. Same for all minerals.
No American or Chinese ownership of resource companies.
Eliminate all interprovincial trade barriers.
Pipelines both ways. Our best export is oil and gas. Sell them. Preferably after refining in BC near the ports. Same for all minerals.
No American or Chinese ownership of resource companies.
Yep, let's not do that, let's just let the bully get away with what he wants.
I suppose you think Tariffs are paid by the other country too, like Trump does?
And you've proof of that where?
Already being done, pushed to be complete by July 1 but we'll see what the Provinces do. Fuckers still want to "protect" certain things - like for Newfoundland their fishing plants.
You can't force provinces to allow pipelines. Or do you not understand that part yet?
I actually agree, and what oil and gas we can get out, we SHOULD push out, and sell at market value; no more fucking deals to lower the values to 'friends' like it was with the US.
Sure.
Meanwhile we're waiting 10 years, give or take, for shit to come online to do all this.
Absolutely agree with this, 100000%.
But then to do that... well it'd likely have to go down a road you'd never agree with so...
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Canadian government has the power to expropriate land for public use, it must adhere to legal requirements and compensate the property owner fairly. Even if it's Provincial Crown Land. It's it's a "strategic" asset by necessity, Provinces can't do shit.
Trump calls foreign-made films 'security threat,' threatens 100% tariff
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Jill Colvin And Jake Coyle
Published May 04, 2025 • 3 minute read
NEW YORK — President Donald Trump is opening a new salvo in his tariff war, targeting films made outside the U.S.
In a post Sunday night on his Truth Social platform, Trump said he has authorized the Department of Commerce and the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative to slap a 100% tariff “on any and all Movies coming into our Country that are produced in Foreign Lands.
“The Movie Industry in America is DYING a very fast death,” he wrote, complaining that other countries “are offering all sorts of incentives to draw” filmmakers and studios away from the U.S. “This is a concerted effort by other Nations and, therefore, a National Security threat. It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda!”
It wasn’t immediately clear how any such tariff on international productions could be implemented. It’s common for both large and smaller films to include production both in the U.S. and other countries. Big-budget movies like the upcoming Mission: Impossible — The Final Reckoning, for instance, are shot around the world.
Incentive programs for years have influenced where movies are shot, increasingly driving film production out of California and to other states and countries with favourable tax incentives, like Canada and the United Kingdom.
Yet tariffs are designed to lead consumers toward American products. And in movie theatres, American-produced movies overwhelming dominate the domestic marketplace.
China has ramped up its domestic movie production, culminating in the animated blockbuster Ne Zha 2 grossing more than $2 billion this year. But even then, its sales came almost entirely from mainland China. In North America, in earned just $20.9 million.
The Motion Picture Association didn’t immediately respond to messages Sunday evening.
The MPA’s data shows how much Hollywood exports have dominated cinemas. According to the MPA, the American movies produced $22.6 billion in exports and $15.3 billion in trade surplus in 2023.
Trump has made good on the “tariff man” label he gave himself years ago, slapping new taxes on goods made in countries around the globe. That includes a 145% tariff on Chinese goods and a 10% baseline tariff on goods from other countries, with even higher levies threatened.
By unilaterally imposing tariffs, Trump has exerted extraordinary influence over the flow of commerce, creating political risks and pulling the market in different directions. There are tariffs on autos, steel and aluminum, with more imports, including pharmaceutical drugs, set to be subject to new tariffs in the weeks ahead.
Trump has long voiced concern about movie production moving overseas.
Shortly before he took office, he announced that he had tapped actors Mel Gibson, Jon Voight and Sylvester Stallone to serve as “special ambassadors” to Hollywood to bring it “BACK BIGGER, BETTER, AND STRONGER THAN EVER BEFORE!”
U.S. film and television production has been hampered in recent years, with setbacks from the COVID-19 pandemic, the Hollywood guild strikes of 2023 and the recent wildfires in the Los Angeles area. Overall production in the U.S. was down 26% last year compared with 2021, according to data from ProdPro, which tracks production.
The group’s annual survey of executives, which asked about preferred filming locations, found no location in the U.S. made the top five, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Toronto, the U.K., Vancouver, Central Europe and Australia came out on top, with California placing sixth, Georgia seventh, New Jersey eighth and New York ninth.
The problem is especially acute in California. In the greater Los Angeles area, production last year was down 5.6% from 2023 according to FilmLA, second only to 2020, during the peak of the pandemic. Last October, Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed expanding California’s Film and Television Tax Credit program to $750 million annually, up from $330 million.
Other U.S. cities like Atlanta, New York, Chicago and San Francisco have also used aggressive tax incentives to lure film and TV productions. Those programs can take the form of cash grants, as in Texas, or tax credits, which Georgia and New Mexico offer.
“Other nations have been stealing the movie-making capabilities from the United States,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Sunday night after returning from a weekend in Florida. “If they’re not willing to make a movie inside the United States we should have a tariff on movies that come in.”
— Associated Press writer Gary Field contributed to this report from Washington.
torontosun.com
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Jill Colvin And Jake Coyle
Published May 04, 2025 • 3 minute read
NEW YORK — President Donald Trump is opening a new salvo in his tariff war, targeting films made outside the U.S.
In a post Sunday night on his Truth Social platform, Trump said he has authorized the Department of Commerce and the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative to slap a 100% tariff “on any and all Movies coming into our Country that are produced in Foreign Lands.
“The Movie Industry in America is DYING a very fast death,” he wrote, complaining that other countries “are offering all sorts of incentives to draw” filmmakers and studios away from the U.S. “This is a concerted effort by other Nations and, therefore, a National Security threat. It is, in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda!”
It wasn’t immediately clear how any such tariff on international productions could be implemented. It’s common for both large and smaller films to include production both in the U.S. and other countries. Big-budget movies like the upcoming Mission: Impossible — The Final Reckoning, for instance, are shot around the world.
Incentive programs for years have influenced where movies are shot, increasingly driving film production out of California and to other states and countries with favourable tax incentives, like Canada and the United Kingdom.
Yet tariffs are designed to lead consumers toward American products. And in movie theatres, American-produced movies overwhelming dominate the domestic marketplace.
China has ramped up its domestic movie production, culminating in the animated blockbuster Ne Zha 2 grossing more than $2 billion this year. But even then, its sales came almost entirely from mainland China. In North America, in earned just $20.9 million.
The Motion Picture Association didn’t immediately respond to messages Sunday evening.
The MPA’s data shows how much Hollywood exports have dominated cinemas. According to the MPA, the American movies produced $22.6 billion in exports and $15.3 billion in trade surplus in 2023.
Trump has made good on the “tariff man” label he gave himself years ago, slapping new taxes on goods made in countries around the globe. That includes a 145% tariff on Chinese goods and a 10% baseline tariff on goods from other countries, with even higher levies threatened.
By unilaterally imposing tariffs, Trump has exerted extraordinary influence over the flow of commerce, creating political risks and pulling the market in different directions. There are tariffs on autos, steel and aluminum, with more imports, including pharmaceutical drugs, set to be subject to new tariffs in the weeks ahead.
Trump has long voiced concern about movie production moving overseas.
Shortly before he took office, he announced that he had tapped actors Mel Gibson, Jon Voight and Sylvester Stallone to serve as “special ambassadors” to Hollywood to bring it “BACK BIGGER, BETTER, AND STRONGER THAN EVER BEFORE!”
U.S. film and television production has been hampered in recent years, with setbacks from the COVID-19 pandemic, the Hollywood guild strikes of 2023 and the recent wildfires in the Los Angeles area. Overall production in the U.S. was down 26% last year compared with 2021, according to data from ProdPro, which tracks production.
The group’s annual survey of executives, which asked about preferred filming locations, found no location in the U.S. made the top five, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Toronto, the U.K., Vancouver, Central Europe and Australia came out on top, with California placing sixth, Georgia seventh, New Jersey eighth and New York ninth.
The problem is especially acute in California. In the greater Los Angeles area, production last year was down 5.6% from 2023 according to FilmLA, second only to 2020, during the peak of the pandemic. Last October, Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed expanding California’s Film and Television Tax Credit program to $750 million annually, up from $330 million.
Other U.S. cities like Atlanta, New York, Chicago and San Francisco have also used aggressive tax incentives to lure film and TV productions. Those programs can take the form of cash grants, as in Texas, or tax credits, which Georgia and New Mexico offer.
“Other nations have been stealing the movie-making capabilities from the United States,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Sunday night after returning from a weekend in Florida. “If they’re not willing to make a movie inside the United States we should have a tariff on movies that come in.”
— Associated Press writer Gary Field contributed to this report from Washington.
Trump calls foreign-made films 'security threat,' threatens 100% tariff
President Donald Trump is opening a new salvo in his tariff war, targeting films made outside the U.S.
A national security threat.
Ohhhh. . . KAY!
Well, ya can't say he ain't representative of America.
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
--HL Mencken
Ohhhh. . . KAY!
Well, ya can't say he ain't representative of America.
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
--HL Mencken
Kiss the Hallmark channel good bye.Its pretty much 100% Canadian produced.
Yep. I was always amused by the frequently-seen, distinctive green enclosed pedestrian overpass in the "Chicago" of Due South. That's "Chicago" spelled T-O-R-O-N-T-O.
So you have no clue how tariffs actually work.
No, that is what you think. Don't look in the mirror when you type.
As a matter of fact, the Feds can, if they chose to. Do try and educate yourself.
Again, your lack of basic knowledge is astounding. Alberta sells oil at a discount to the US because of a lack of both pipelines and refineries in Canada. The US refineries then process all that black gold and sell it to other countries at world prices because, wait for it... they have pipelines and ports.
Again, you are typing in front of the mirror. This is exactly the road I want to go down.
And the world economy's been teetering on the brink of recession since then, largely due to Donny Dipshit's brilliant moves.
my sisters are big fans of tracker, when the heart calls, sullivans crossing, way home, etc. they are worried that those shows could be negatively affected by the terroriffs. 