What am I ?

china

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I am a result; I am the result of the past, of innumerable layers of the past, of a series of causes?effects. And how can I be opposed to the whole, the past, when I am the result of all that? If I, who am the mass, the whole, if I do not understand myself, not only what is outside my skin, objectively, but subjectively, inside the skin, how can I understand another, the world? I think to understand oneself requires kindly and tolerant detachment. If you do not understand yourself, you will not understand anything else; you may have great ideals, beliefs, and formulations, but they will have no reality. They will be delusions. So you must know yourself to understand the present and through the present, the past. From the known present, the hidden layers of the past are discovered and this discovery is liberating and creative...........Your point of view .
 

talloola

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I accept myself and my life as a natural happening on this earth, I look around me and see
all of the mixture of 'life' on earth, and I am a part of it, and I don't have big questions
of wonder, 'why am I here', 'who am I', 'is there a god', 'what should I do', 'where should I go in life', as all of those questions are obvious to me, and I fit into the rhelm of 'life on earth'. It seems very simple. I have the answers built inside of me, I don't have to look
around and feel confused, maybe if I was an alien who just landed here, I could understand that feeling, but not me, I'm home.
All of the progress that has happened on this earth, has nothing to do with my comfort zone, I am not part of that
world, it is around me, but I am still, who I am, with or without all of that. (except for my TV and computer) lol
 

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If you look in your self you know there god ,

nothing was of nothing become from thing ,

then of you look for this the world the look good ,

you do not see just is there only one god this correlative world ,

If there more of one god you not see this world like this or relative the gods fight with selves them ,

and you known the god from he creator if you see creation

If you see mercies you know there merciful

If you see the knowing ,you know there the scientist

If you see the aphorism you know there the sage

If you see creating you know there creator

then we know

no god just one god

ask the god to see you he is way ..:smile:
 
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We are an embodied consciousness created by the physical mechanisms of our brains. Consciousness is what our brain does to quote Pinker. We see and translate the world through our senses by means of physical metaphors which are highly restrictive. On the one hand we have to be satisfied that we know the world around us but on the other we are desperately incompetent at doing so. Likewise we have an intense feeling of freewill though in reality we choose and make decisions before we are even "conscious" of them and once decided we rationalize the reason for our choice. In this way we find the cogito is a lie and in all probably doesn't exist. It really is nothing and as Sartre points out, we can't even trust ourselves which leads us to misery (the fear of ourselves, that is, what we are not). Our greatest power of mind is in telling stories to others and to ourselves. We can make up stories about why we decided this or that but in reality it was all decided deep within our brains, completely hidden from view, had nothing to do with our consciousness, but we can both explain and rationalize our choices; all despite the descision making proccess having absolutely nothing at all to do with us.
 
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L Gilbert

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I am a product of my father and mother. Anyone who says different is severely deluded.
BTW, I am only partially a product of the past: my father died, but my mother is still alive. Besides that I am still morphing so in effect, I am a new product every moment. I am an original, a prototype. No-one else can be me. :D
 

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When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of living a way of uncovering the ‘me’, the ego, the self? The self is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves. All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking; and is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves, the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But, if one begins to understand the ‘me’ in all its various activities from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any effort, the nameless, the timeless, comes into being. But the timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up, condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words, knowledge, information.
The mind that analyses, calculates, is not a simple mind .
 

L Gilbert

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When we are aware of ourselves, is not the whole movement of living a way of uncovering the ‘me’, the ego, the self? The self is a very complex process which can be uncovered only in relationship, in our daily activities, in the way we talk, the way we judge, calculate, the way we condemn others and ourselves. All that reveals the conditioned state of our own thinking; and is it not important to be aware of this whole process? It is only through awareness of what is true from moment to moment that there is discovery of the timeless, the eternal. Without self-knowledge, the eternal cannot be. When we do not know ourselves, the eternal becomes a mere word, a symbol, a speculation, a dogma, a belief, an illusion to which the mind can escape. But, if one begins to understand the ‘me’ in all its various activities from day to day, then in that very understanding, without any effort, the nameless, the timeless, comes into being. But the timeless is not a reward for self-knowledge. That which is eternal cannot be sought after; the mind cannot acquire it. It comes into being when the mind is quiet, and the mind can be quiet only when it is simple, when it is no longer storing up, condemning, judging, weighing. It is only the simple mind that can understand the real, not the mind that is full of words, knowledge, information.
The mind that analyses, calculates, is not a simple mind .
lol Don't forget to add that this is only your opinion.
I think you have been reading too many of those mystical, inscrutible Oriental stories and too much Confucius. You probably believe that Kung Fu masters can repel enemies using just a glance or puff of breath, too.
One has to become a vegetable to understand what's real? roflmao.
 

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I have a childhood friend that lives in China. He came back before his wedding and I had a chance to visit with him. It was truly a frightening experience. He was completely brainwashed!
 

Scott Free

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Pavlov's dog.
We are trained over here, too. It's just a different training.

Absolutely! I never meant to imply otherwise. I'm certain he was just as shocked by me too.

I am making every effort to throw off those bindings though.

What I meant was that perhaps that is why China seems so... well... China.
 

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""What I meant was that perhaps that is why China seems so... well... China.""

A very small and insignificant dog with a tiny bark, trying to be heard amidst the noises in his own mind.