Western civilisation could collapse

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Then a whole flush of verbal diarrhea from the poor excuse for a conservative who can't even hold his beer......
 

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Then a whole flush of verbal diarrhea from the poor excuse for a conservative who can't even hold his beer......




Western civilization could collapse! Oh dear me!!!!!!!! Is the sky falling too?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals and their bigoted anti white allies are following a perverted version of the Bible!


They think it is the HYPOCRITES who will inherit the Earth!!!!!!


The LIE-beral mindset is like that of a 5 year old who will run away to a better life without rules or school and where they are ENTITLED to all the Gravy they can dream of whenever they want it!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin is simply Peter Pan in an urban setting!!!!!!



And that world will come to pass just as soon as the WIMPS can figure out how to get past the white people who are doing all the real work of maintaining society!!!!
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Silly LIE-berals have got it WRONG!


It is not western civilization that is collapsing- IT IS THEIR POLICIES THAT ARE FALLING APART!


Being proven completely and decisively WRONG ON ALL COUNTS means the END of the LIE-beral world!!!!!


Here is an article illustrating how truly open minded NDPers really are when it is THEIR money under spending pressure. With some comments of my own in brackets):

New Democrat MPP Paul Miller blasts staff's union in spat over parental leave

By Antonella Artuso. Published: April 18, 2018. Updated: April 19, 2018 8:06 AM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

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OPINION: Ontario swimming in a dangerous pool of red ink

Ontario NDP MPP Paul Miller criticized his staff’s union and questioned the dedication of an employee who took parental leave, according to a recorded voicemail message.

“Basically, sometimes unions do more harm than good,” Hamilton East-Stoney Creek MPP Paul Miller said. “And sometimes they get their people into bad situations.”

(Oh gee- but NDP has just told us that if they form the next govt, they will NOT use back to work legislation to compel greedy civil service union Hogs with a monopoly stranglehold on an essential service back to work if they remain as greedy as always and use their strike weapon to extort money from us! How could that policy turn and bite us on the ass? Maybe we should ask York U. Students what they think of NO back to work legislation since they are already dealing with the longest school strike in Cdn history while Ontari-owe govt is paralysed and mesmerized by the June election- with BOTH LIE-berals and NDP refusing to act for fear of further enraging their civil service union Hog supporters!)

Miller goes on to say several of his fellow NDP MPPs are having similar problems with COPE, the Canadian Office and Professional Employees International Union, which represents NDP staff at Queen’s Park.

(So NDP is very pleased with unions that EXTORT our money but unions that demand entitlements from NDP leaders are the enemy? Apparently so!)

This, while the Ontario NDP are campaigning in the provincial election on a promise to make it easier for workers to unionize and to access benefits like parental leave.

The voicemail, recorded in October 2016 and obtained by the Toronto Sun, was left for Todd White, who has filed several grievances with his union and recently a Human Rights complaint alleging he was bullied, demeaned and harassed because he took parental leave from his job in Miller’s constituency office.

The recording covers about three minutes of a longer voicemail message.

Miller complained that White was away from this constituency office for 10 months on parental leave and he heard from him maybe once, which he argued didn’t suggest loyalty or interest in the job.

“There’s going to be big changes, real quick, in the next few months or it’s going to be an ugly situation,” Miller said. “It’s not just my office – a lot of the MPPs are moving in that direction because they’re not happy with COPE’s activities. And COPE is really digging a hole for themselves…they’re putting you guys in a bad position.”

(Oh yes- the hypocrisy is STRONG with this one! Striking York U staff can force thousands of kids to put their lives on hold while staff seek to extort money- but let that happen in a NDP office and the WAR IS ON!)

When contacted by the Toronto Sun Wednesday about the voicemail, Miller said he had expressed his frustrations with White’s job performance on a number of occasions directly to him and through the Ontario NDP caucus to his union.

“These frustrations and concerns are now the subject of the grievances currently subject to arbitration,” Miller said in a statement. “I am confident that the process will resolve fairly, and demonstrate that I acted reasonably, in good faith, and consistent with my obligations under the collective agreement.”

(And yet NDPers are quite happy to lecture the rest of us about how we MUST hold jobs open for people who want the parental leave that people in the private sector do not usually dare to take in full- UNLIKE their civil service Hog betters!)

Miller’s statement did not address his comments about COPE.

White’s lawyer Wade Poziomka said the comments in the recording are inappropriate and reflect “antiquated” views that do not belong in a modern workplace.

(The comments reflect those of a harried boss in the REAL WORLD struggling to get work done by experienced workers who are missing from the job for reasons hypocrite NDPers suddenly do not consider good enough- FOR THEM!)

“An employee who takes time off when a new baby is born should not be seen as uncommitted to the workplace or as someone who does not take their job seriously,” Poziomka said in an email.

(It’s a lovely sentiment but many bosses- including holier than thou NDPers clearly disagree! Irony challenged Ndpers are no more fit to form a govt than Wynne-bag and her LIE-beral horde!)

Leader Andrea Horwath claimed in one media report that the NDP is the only party with unionized constituency workers, Poziomka noted.

(Oh- ANOTHER TELLING piece of hypocrisy! Only NDPers allow union workers into their offices- and then bitch when the union demands rights!)

“It seems that this unionized system and COPE in particular is something that Mr. Miller takes issue with and in fact may be blaming this system for the problems allegedly experienced in constituency offices,” he said.

“I would expect that the NDP, largely seen as a labour party, would be trumpeting the message that there is room for family and work and working against the view that devoting time to one means that someone is less committed to the other,” Poziomka said.

(I suggest the big story here is the NDP willing ness to sell us all out to civil service union Hogs in exchange for votes! And it is disgraceful that NDPers expect to force US to put up with even greater union entitlements- as their election olicy comes into effect- than the current rights that already SO CLEARLY ANNOY NDPers! NDP policy has joined LIE-beral policy- just spinning in circles like turds in a flushed toilet! We desperately need a plumber to drain the CRAP from Queens Park!)

Yeah, an obscure NDP MPP is going to bring down Western Civilization, all right.

As a matter of fact, the biggest symptom of the collapse of Western Civilization that I can see is that un-hinged looney tunes now have a mass media voice using the Internet to spout their idiotic conspiracy theories to gullible fellow travelers.
 

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Yeah, an obscure NDP MPP is going to bring down Western Civilization, all right.

As a matter of fact, the biggest symptom of the collapse of Western Civilization that I can see is that un-hinged looney tunes now have a mass media voice using the Internet to spout their idiotic conspiracy theories to gullible fellow travelers.




THREE MESSAGES FROM WALTER and ALL WHINING ABOUT EXCLAMATION POINTS in my posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tis a SURE SIGN of what I have been saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That LIE-berals are now utterly bereft of ideas on ANY SUBJECT and they are reduced to childish whining that will last till some time in 2019 when Our idiot Boy Justin faces the country in an election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL LIE-BERAL POLICY IS FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The country will be much better off when LIE-berals are flushed out of office like turds going down the drain!
 

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THREE MESSAGES FROM WALTER and ALL WHINING ABOUT EXCLAMATION POINTS in my posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tis a SURE SIGN of what I have been saying!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That LIE-berals are now utterly bereft of ideas on ANY SUBJECT and they are reduced to childish whining that will last till some time in 2019 when Our idiot Boy Justin faces the country in an election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL LIE-BERAL POLICY IS FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The country will be much better off when LIE-berals are flushed out of office like turds going down the drain!

Walter is a notorious LIE-BERAL. They don't come any worse !!!
 

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Don’t forget the enviroreligous practices . They have been preaching doom and glum and the end of the world since the 1960’s .






https://yahshua-ha-mashiach.weebly....ictions-by-famous-church-of-god-teachers.html


LIST OF
FAILED PROPHECIES
BY FAMOUS PREACHERS


A Few Notable False Predictions by Famous
"Church of God" Teachers


HERBERT W. ARMSTRONG!
KENNETH L. HERMANN!
RODERICK C. MEREDITH!
HERMAN L. HOEH!
RON KELLY!




"When a prophet speaketh in the name of Yahweh,
if the thing follow not, nor come to pass,
that is the thing which Yahweh hath not spoken,
but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously:
thou shalt not be afraid of him." (Deuteronomy 18:22)


"The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name.
I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them;
they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility
and the deception of their own minds." (Jeremiyahj 14:14)


"But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name
which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the
name of other gods, that prophet shall die." (Deut 18:20-21)


"But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death,
because he has counseled to turn away from Yahweh your Elohim,
who brought you from the land of Egypt and redeemed you from
the house of slavery, to seduce you from the way in which
Yahweh your Elohim commanded you to walk. So you
shall purge the evil from among you." (Deut. 13:5)


"But you have become arrogant and have not mourned instead,
so that the one who had done this deed would be removed
from your midst." (1 cOR. 5:2)







The following are all FALSE PROPHECIES made by Herbert W. Armstrong and his team, and published by the Worldwide Church of God. (Names and dates of publications are provided).


As you read through all these blatant lies you are about to see, you might really want to ask yourself: are these men and their followers, the "leaders" who want to judge you without any mercy and compassion today? Are these people the ones who dare imply you have not even been "called by Yahweh" simply because you dont "belong" to them? Are they the ones that claim that everyone outside of their "church" is outside of the "body," and refuse to assist them as is their duty---being that Scripture teaches that their failed predicitions provoke the scattering of the sheep of Yahushua into many different groups and sects..?


Did Yahushua and His apostles or disciples set such specific dates for prophecy as some of these men did? Hardly so.


Why? Mainly because Yahweh wants faithful and trustworthy servants guiding His people, that the sheep can trust in. TRUST is very important, because there are many false teachers one cannot trust in being spoken of in the Scriptures, and they should act diffrerently from one another. (At least the faithful should). They are the leaders, (or at least that is what they market themselves as to Yahweh's called-out), and the sheep are their followers, not vice-versa. The leaders should set the example, not the other way around.


As an introduction to this shameful and horrendous list of falsely dated prophecies, Roderick Meredith stated the following about "God's true prophets" being themselves:



"Where are God's true prophets today? ... This work has been warning America of definite and tremendous events to come for many years!""...on THE WORLD TOMORROW broadcast and in this magazine we have dared to unlock the Bible prophecies and apply them to specific nations and events that are now being affected. Do you grasp the significance of this'?"- PLAIN TRUTH, August 1957, pages 3, 6, R. C. Meredith

!!!!


"Bible prophecy indicates that the final attack on the U.S. and Britain by this coming 'Beast' power could easily be launched perhaps as early as the spring of 1972---or earlier ...." -- The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, May 1965, p. 45.


It did not happen. It turned out FALSE!


"The 'Day of the Eternal'---a time foretold in more than thirty prophecies---is going to strike between 5 and 10 years from now!... I am not writing foolishly, but very soberly, on authority of the living Christ!" --- The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, Feb. 1967, p. 47.


Again, it did not happen on those dates. In fact, it has not yet even happened more than 45 years later! Again, this was not Yahweh speaking, for those words turned out FALSE!



But this shameful and arrogant style of predicting the future started way back in the 1950s (and even before then) when Roderick Meredith, Herman Hoeh, Garner Ted Armstrong and others began to assist Herbert Armstrong in proclaiming his prophetic witness to the world. Nobody can deny that there is a certain degree of pride and evil when speaking falsely in Yahweh's or God's name. A few times in Deuteronomy Yahweh says such people speak presumptuously. Believing the Great Tribulation would start in 1972---instead of around 1936 as Herbert had previously prophesied ---they busied themselves with the task of writing new and terrifying doomsday prophecies based on Herbert's somewhat shaky understanding of Bible prophecy in those days. Here are a few of those failed prophecies:


"God Almighty has spoken through His servants the prophets that He will punish our people for their sins. He will let our own lust cause such droughts, floods, pestilences and famines that we will be totally consumed and carried away captive to other nations as slaves within twenty years." - The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, Oct. 1955, p. 16.)

FALSE!


"Plagues are coming-and, according to this prophetic warning, in about two years from now! Our cattle have already suffered from the drought. Soon we shall find that the hoof-and-mouth disease will spread out of control! Rabid foxes, squirrels, muskrats will attack our children. For seven long and frightful years, we are going to suffer as never before-until we be left 'few in number.'..."This seven years of national trouble takes us---if the dates which appear so definitely indicated by these prophecies are correct---from 1965 to 1972!" -- The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, April 1956, p. 22.

FALSE!


"Two years ago, Mr. Herman Hoeh showed in this magazine how God's word prophesied disease epidemics would strike the United States in two short years! (REFERENCE TO ABOVE) Those epidemics are beginning now! And they will grow much worse! God prophesies that finally, within the next fifteen years, fully one third of our whole population will die of disease and famine!" -- The Plain Truth, Garner Ted Armstrong, Dec. 1957, p. 23.

FALSE!


"The popular, denominationally supported evangelists often make statements like this: 'I believe that God may use Russia to punish America for her sins.' Or, 'It now seems likely that World War III may come within five years.'... They use the words 'may,' 'could,' or 'might.'... The truth of the matter is that they dare not be specific about the future because they just do not know what the Bible says is going to happen! But on 'The World Tomorrow' broadcast and in this magazine we have dared to unlock the Bible prophecies and apply them to specific nations and events that are now being affected.


"There is no other church or work on the face of this earth that either understands or dares to proclaim these vital warnings!... This is the very Work of God!... You are now being warned!" - The Plain Truth, Roderick Meredith, Aug. 1957, p. 6.


Yes, WCG "the Church of God"... but there is a certain thing in Scripture called prophesying falsely, and confusing people and scattering some of them...as we shall see that later happened due to this unrepentant error. "Unrepentant," because this trend continued and got even worse, AS WE SHALL SEE BELOW.


These words uttered by Rod Meredith constitute quite a claim...QUITE A CLAIM...and, in the interest of truth, bears further investigation. The fairest way to find the answers to these questions is to examine some of their most significant predictions over the last 40 years. First, let's look at some of Herbert's earliest predictions (the distinctive "Plain Truth" excessive capitalization and italicization of words have been deleted in all quotes in this article to facilitate typesetting and readability):



"Germany's coming Führer---who will lead within probably 13 years from now a 10-nation union in Europe (Rev. 17:12-13)---is 'the king of the north.' He will 'stretch forth his hand upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape' (Dan. 11:42). There is going to be a falling out between Nasser and his German supporters. Nasser's Nazi advisers are yet to turn upon him. Germany will take over the Suez from Egypt. Germany will take over Syria's oil pipelines, now under Nasser's control." (The Plain Truth, Herman Hoeh, Oct. 1958, p. 4.)


None of this ever happened. It's totally
FALSE!



In 1959, Rod Meredith----despite so MANY previous predictions made during the previous decade turning out totally FALSE--- once again humbly assured Plain Truth readers that his church alone was accurately predicting the future:


"We have been daring, as no other church on earth, to proclaim definite, specific prophetic events to occur---and they have been happening!... For the specific prophesied events which this Church alone proclaims will soon be demonstrated as a physical reality! There will be no reasoning or argument about this. You will see and feel these things happen!" -- The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, June 1959, p. 32.

FALSE!


As the years ticked by, Herbert and his followers sensed Christ's return was nigh, and they redoubled their efforts to shout their prophetic message to the whole world with more power and conviction than ever:


"In Joel 1, in Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 and John 13--in Revelation 6, and in other prophecies, a revolution in the weather-leading to unprecedented famine by around 1970-72 is prophesied. In its wake is prophesied frightful disease epidemics! A third of the people of the U.S. and British Commonwealth nations will die of this scourge." - The Plain Truth. Herbert Armstrong, Feb. 1962, pp. 5, 7.

FALSE! TOTALLY FALSE!




"The unification of Germany? Perhaps it will take place sooner than we expect! The unification of ten nations in Europe is certain to be brought about within a very few years." -- The Plain Truth, Ron Kelly, Sept. 1964, p. 20.

FALSE!



"Frankly, literally dozens of prophesied events indicate that this final revival of the Roman Empire in Europe---and its bestial persecution of multitudes of Bible-believing Christians---will take place within the next seven to ten years of your life!" - The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, Feb. 1965, p. 48.

FALSE!


That false prophecy was published in February 1965. Again, in a 1966 article in the Plain Truth, Meredith again noted a spectacular Bible event which was to happen in 1972. I quote the article:


"What was 'The meaning of Hitler's fake suicide?' 'It's meaning could SHOCK an awed and astonished world within the next five to seven years! Its meaning could precipitate the END of this present age and the second coming of Jesus Christ! . . . It is a most interesting date because Bible prophecy indicates that the final attack on the U.S. and Britain by this coming 'Beast' power could easily be launched perhaps as early as the spring of 1972 -- or earlier if this final work of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is cut short" --- May 1965, p.45


In his first newsletter to the Global Church of God readership, Roderick Meredith maintained his interest in Bible prophecy, challenging others by saying: "God insists that His servants the prophets will understand and fearlessly teach what the future holds. If teachers cannot see the revealed future, then are they true servants of God?" (Global Church News, vol.1, no.1, p.5, quoted in Watchman Expositor, p.22).


Judging by Meredith's own words and his failed timings, then, one must ask: Is he a true servant of God? His own predictions, in his 1965 article, were as wrong as can be. His prediction of World War III starting by the spring of 1972, of course, fell flat as a pancake! Read again his dates:



"Bible prophecy indicates that the final attack on the U.S. and Britain by this coming 'Beast' power could easily be launched perhaps as early as the spring of 1972----or earlier ...." - The Plain Truth, Rod Meredith, May 1965, p. 45.

FALSE!


In all honesty, this is not Yahweh speaking through one of his servant because Yahweh does not make such mistakes. In fact, He doesnt make ANY mistakes!


"The 'Day of the Eternal'---a time foretold in more than thirty prophecies----is going to strike between 5 and 10 years from now!... I am not writing foolishly, but very soberly, on authority of the living Christ!" The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, Feb. 1967, p. 47.

FALSE!



"As nearly as we can calculate from the dates of ancient history, the year 1936 will see the END of the Times of the Gentiles.... We may expect the present worldwide depression, time of trouble and fear of war to CONTINUE until the year 1936! ...quickly after that time, we may expect to see the heavenly signs of the sun and moon becoming dark, the stars falling ... which shall be followed by the 'Day of the Lord'"- PLAIN TRUTH, June-July 1934, page 5, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Mussolini and the Pope will hatch up an idea between them of setting up a world headquarters at JERUSALEM-and so Mussolini's armies will enter into Palestine (Daniel 11:41), and eventually will capture just half of the city of Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:2)."- PLAIN TRUTH, March 1938, page 8, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"MUSSOLINI WILL FIGHT CHRIST!" - PLAIN TRUTH, January 1939, Page 4, H. W. Armstrong

UTTERLY FALSE!



"But HITLER (or his successor if there is one), and the False Prophet shall fight against Christ!" -- The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, March-April 1943, p. 6.

FALSE! FALSE! FALSE!



"Once World War is resumed, it must continue on through the Great Tribulation, the heavenly signs, the plagues of the Day of the Lord, and to the Second Coming of Christ, at the last battle, at ARMAGEDDON!...But this you MAY KNOW! This war will be ended by CHRIST'S RETURN! And war MAY start within six weeks! We are just THAT NEAR Christ's coming!" --- PLAIN TRUTH, August 1939, page 6, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE! FALSE! FALSE!



"The Italians will capture both Palestine and Egypt." - PLAIN TRUTH, August-September 1940. H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Turkey will cause British defeat. But God will rescue and restore the British and cause Turkey utterly to be wiped out." - PLAIN TRUTH, May-June 1941, page 6, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"PLAIN TRUTH readers know world events, before they occur!...Bible prophecy does indicate that Hitler MUST BE THE VICTOR, in his present Russian invasion! ...Hitler will emerge from his Russian campaign stronger than ever, free to turn the entire might of his forces against Britain-and AMERICA!" - PLAIN TRUTH, September- October 1941, page 7, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


" God has decreed that Joseph---Great Britain and the United States---are to utterly consume and annihilate the Turks from off the earth!" -- The Plain Truth, Herbert Armstrong, Nov.-Dec. 1940, p. 7.



FALSE!


"Yes, it seems that God is allowing us another 19-year cycle to COMPLETE THE CARRYING OUT OF HIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM TO THIS SICK AND DYING WORLD.... There is a tremendous job to be done in the very short period that lies ahead of us." - PLAIN TRUTH, June 1953, "Man's Greatest Battle" by R. C. Meredith

FALSE!


"The idea of men climbing around on the outside of their space ships clad in pressurized suits is fantastic in the light of these facts.... Man will not be allowed or permitted to utilize the moon in suicidal warfare! Neither will God allow the moon to become the possession of any nation now struggling for world domination." - PLAIN TRUTH, May 1954, page 8, Kenneth Hermann

FALSE!



"God prophesies that finally, within the next fifteen years, fully ONE THIRD of our whole population will die of disease and famine." - PLAIN TRUTH, December 1957, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"God Almighty has spoken through His servants the prophets that He will punish our people for their sins. He will let our own lust cause such droughts, floods, pestilences and famines that we will be totally consumed and carried away captive to other nations as SLAVES WITHIN TWENTY YEARS." - PLAIN TRUTH, October 1955, page 15, H. L. Hoeh

FALSE!


"...it is the coming dry cycle in the early 1970s that ... ought to frighten us all! By THAT TIME, rural, city and industrial demands WILL HAVE DEPLETED OUR REMAINING UNDERGROUND WATER RESOURCES."- PLAIN TRUTH, January 1955, "Weather changes Threaten Disaster for USA" by H. L. Hoeh

FALSE!


"Germany's coming Fuhrer-who will lead within probably 13 years from now a 10-nation union in Europe (Revelation 17: 12-13)-is 'the king of the north'! He will 'stretch forth his hand upon the countries; and the land of Egypt shall not escape' (Daniel 11:42)...There is going to be a failing out between Nasser and his German supporters. Nasser's Nazi advisers are yet to turn upon him. GERMANY WILL TAKE OVER THE SUEZ FROM EGYPT. Germany will take over Syria's pipelines, now under Nasser's control." - PLAIN TRUTH, October 1958.

FALSE!



One would think that after such a series of gigantic prophetic failures, ones after another, during a span of over 40 years that Herbert Armstrong would throw in the towel and give up trying to foretell the future giving precise dates for prophetic fulfillment---or at least buy a new Steuben "crystal ball." Instead of that, he and his "prophets" continued doing the same thing he did in the late 1940s and early 1950s----that is, moving his erroneous predictions forward two or more decades into the future and claiming with all certainty they will occur at that time:


"During this generation---within 60 to 90 years or less from 1927---Christ will come again ...." Co-worker letter, Jan. 20, 1977, p. 4.

TOTALLY FALSE!



"Somewhere along about seven to ten years from now the REVOLUTION IN THE WEATHER will become a national and international calamity. Drought, epidemics of disease, will reap a mounting harvest of death across North America-and in Britain. Economic depression will strike." - PLAIN TRUTH, January 1963, page 21, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Our strength further sapped: 1963 shall increase drought and upheavals in the prophesied revolution in the WEATHER pattern. We may have an occasional good year in the weather, but the trend in general will continue until-probably by 1971-1972-it will become an acute disaster, especially to the United States, Canada, Britain and Australia." - PLAIN TRUTH, January 1964, page 4. H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Frankly, literally dozens of prophesied events indicate that this final revival of the Roman Empire in Europe-and its bestial PERSECUTION of multitudes of Bible-believing Christians will take place within the next seven to ten years of YOUR LIFE!" - PLAIN TRUTH, February 1965, page 48. R. C. Meredith

FALSE!


"The unification of Germany? Perhaps it will take place sooner than we expect! The unification of ten nations in Europe is certain to be brought about within a very few years." - PLAIN TRUTH, September 1964, page 20, Ron Kelly

FALSE!


"It is the most interesting date because Bible prophecy indicates that the final attack on the U. S. and Britain by this coming 'Beast Power' could easily be launched perhaps as early as the Spring of 1972---or earlier if this final work of preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is cut short." - PLAIN TRUTH, May 1965, page 44, R. C. Meredith

FALSE!


"That is NOT a message to ancient Israel-but to OUR NATIONS of TODAY. The 'Day of the Eternal'-a time foretold in more than thirty prophecies-is going to strike between 5 and 10 years from now!" - PLAIN TRUTH, February 1967, page 47, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Although we do not set exact dates, every indication from the time table of prophecy is that this will take place within the next five to seven years or less!...This revival of Germany's dominant interest and influence in the Middle East, the building of a literal Temple, the eventual takeover of Israel and Egypt by a revived Roman Empire of European nations culminating in a great religious leader making his Headquarters right in that Temple in Jerusalem. This is a definite 'SIGN' to the true believers of God heralding the END of this age!" - PLAIN TRUTH, March 1968, page 41. R. C. Meredith

FALSE! FALSE! UTTERLY FALSE!


"The 6000 years are about up. We may have another three, five, or ten years to go." - PLAIN TRUTH, November 1968, page 39, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"There will very soon be a Temple in Jerusalem, with daily sacrifices once again being offered.... Jerusalem will be surrounded and captured (Zechariah 14: 1-2) by the Fascist-Nazi armies of the European Empire, already starting to rise now out of the Common Market. They will invade Jerusalem, and take charge of the temple." - PLAIN TRUTH, June 1967, page 2. H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"But your Bible reveals Britain will not be one of the ultimate ten nations that will unite to resurrect the final restoration of this prophesied Roman Empire." - PLAIN TRUTH, October 1967, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Will Britain ever be admitted into the Common Market? Probably not!" - PLAIN TRUTH, February 1970, page 27, Raymond McNair

FALSE!


"We do not set dates!...Yet in our human zeal and enthusiasm for getting this greatest mission on earth done, we have a few times come close to it or appeared to-and that we deeply regret...if we...appear to set a date, I FEEL I DO NOT NEED TO APOLOGIZE!" - TOMORROW'S WORLD, February 1972, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"If we KNEW of any error still remaining now, we would CHANGE it! If and when we find one in the future, we shall correct it!" - TOMORROW'S WORLD. February 1972, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Right now, just prior by probably not more than five to seven years to the coming terrible DAY OF THE LORD, the Living Christ has moved swiftly to OPEN THE ALL-IMPORTANT DOOR THAT HAS BEEN CLOSED SINCE THE DAY OF THE ORIGINAL APOSTLES. After TURNING HIS BACK on Jerusalem ever since 69 A.D....after turning Jerusalem, because of the rebellious transgressions of his people Israel, over to be 'trodden down of the Gentiles', since 69 A. D., ALMIGHTY GOD HAS OPENED TO THE WORLD TOMORROW, EXCLUSIVELY, THE GIGANTIC DOOR OF THE SUPER-POWER RADIO FROM JERUSALEM...further we have signed with the Hashemite Government of Jordan a FIVE-YEAR BINDING CONTRACT, with option to RENEW another five years!...and when the time came, to WHOM did God open up these precious radio facilities? Not to the Roman Catholics-though they have shrines and buildings there! Nor the Protestants! Nor the Coptics, nor the other professing 'Christian' sects. No, He has opened it EXCLUSIVELY, by binding contract with the government of Jordan, to HIS WORK, to which He has called YOU as a Co-Worker! This PROVES which voice on earth today is GOD'S OWN VOICE, through human servants He has called! If you ever had any doubts whatever about where the real WORK OF GOD is, you can be SURE now!"- CO-WORKER LETTER, April 17, 1967, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


"Jerusalem Radio, over which I have a contract with the Jordanian government, was not destroyed.... If indeed the Living Christ wants His message to go, NOW, from Jerusalem, as certain prophecies surely seem to indicate, then NO MAN CAN PREVENT IT! He will give us favor in the eyes of whoever controls that powerful station. If God does not so will, then we surely don't want to broadcast over it." - TOMORROW'S WORLD, June 1967, page 5, H. W. Armstrong

FALSE!


Editor's Note: Isn't it strange that the Living Christ would lead His prophet to sign a binding five-year contract with the Jordanian government to send His message out from Jerusalem, Jordan, when two days after the first broadcast was to go out (Wednesday, June 7, 1967) there would be no Jerusalem, Jordan? The Six-Day War of June 1967 nullified all the positive declarations he made about Christ being behind this contract with Jordan.


"And the greater pity is that the very ones most deceived are the ones who RESENT having the Scriptures opened to CORRECT them, to REPROVE, and to set them right!" - TOMORROW'S WORLD, February 1972, H. W. Armstrong

!!!

"The flu epidemic at the time of World War I was "the worst pestilence in history"; 10 million died in Russia recently in "the most colossal famine the world ever saw.
All these (Mat. 24:8) are the beginning of sorrows" - PLAIN TRUTH, June-July 1934, p. 4.

FALSE!


"We have been in the Tribulation since 1929 in the United States and since 1928 in Europe" - PLAIN TRUTH, June-July 1934, p. 4.

UTTERLY FALSE!


"The present time of trouble will continue until the year 1936. And at, or quickly after that time, we may expect to see the heavenly signs of the sun and moon becoming dark, the stars falling - and... the sign of the coming of the Son of man in heaven" - PLAIN TRUTH, June-July 1934, p. 5.

FALSE!


"As of the present I, and a majority of our historians in Ambassador College, and researchers in the School of Theology, feel that it is utterly unsafe to try to set dates in regard to prophesied events." - TOMORROW'S WORLD, February 1972, H. W. Armstrong

!!!!


"This year, 1935, is destined to witness an event foretold in the Bible 2,400 years ago: "the great drought." The year 1935 is destined to see the final fulfillment of "God's great army of a nation of bugs" prophesied in Joel 1:4,6-7. The "time of God's wrath-the last plagues-is at hand" - PLAIN TRUTH, March 1935, pp. 1-2

FALSE!


"The present time of trouble and distress will continue until the Resurrection" (March 1935, p. 7). Mussolini is the "beast" - PLAIN TRUTH, Feb. 1938, p. 3).

FALSE!



"Zechariah 8:10 foretold a time when there would be "no hire for man or beast." This description of the great Depression was prophesied to occur just before Jesus' second coming. "Never before has there been unemployment to match that since 1929" - PLAIN TRUTH, Mar. 1938, p. 3). [HWA was basing these conclusions on the premise that 1929 marked the beginning of the Great Tribulation.]

FALSE!


"More millionaires committed suicide between 1929 and 1934 than in all previous years combined!" This was prophesied in James 5:1-8" - PLAIN TRUTH, Mar. 1938, p. 6).

!!!


"Soon France will be induced to bury the hatchet with Germany and join a new kind of alliance purporting to guarantee permanent peace in Europe" - PLAIN TRUTH, Mar. 1938, p. 6). [In this March 1938 PT article HWA prophesied that Germany and France were on the verge of forming a new alliance; yet by June 1940 France had been buried by a German blitzkrieg, much to HWA's consternation - Editor.]

FALSE!


"Bible prophecy shows that the Catholic Church, through its pope, "must officially rule over this coming Empire," but Mussolini and the 10 dictators shall eventually destroy the church" - PLAIN TRUTH, Mar. 1938. p. 8

FALSE!


"Mussolini's soon-appearing reborn Roman Empire is the 'beast' power, and Mussolini undoubtedly is the 'beast'!!" Revelation 17 shows the Beast will be associated with a great fallen church called a "whore" - the Catholic church" - PLAIN TRUTH, Jan. 1939, p. 3

FALSE!


"Many have thought Hitler is proving to be the number one man in Europe," but Mussolini will finally emerge "as number one man over all!" - PLAIN TRUTH, Jan. 1939, p. 4

FALSE! FALSE!


"Mussolini will capture Egypt, conquer one half of Jerusalem, and fight Christ at his second coming" - PLAIN TRUTH, Jan. 1939, p. 4

FALSE! UTTERLY FALSE!


"It appears certain, from these prophecies, that Benito Mussolini is the...'BEAST' of Rev. 19:19-20..." - PLAIN TRUTH, Feb. 1939, p. 1

FALSE!


"Britain shall be invaded and conquered. Turkey will cause British defeat. But God will rescue and restore the British and cause Turkey utterly to be wiped out" - PLAIN TRUTH, Nov. - Dec. 1940, pp. 2, 7

FALSE!


"Bible prophecy does indicate that Hitler must be a victor in his present Russian invasion!" Then Hitler will be "free to turn the entire might of his forces against Britain - and America!" - PLAIN TRUTH, Sept.- Oct. 1941, p. 7

FALSE! UTTERLY FALSE!


"Unless America quickly wakes up, repents, turns to God... the punishment we are already suffering... shall continue until there is invasion, defeat - and utter slavery!" - PLAIN TRUTH, Mar.- Apr. 1942, p. 11

!!!!



Are these MEN the "prophets of God"
that have "all the truth"?


Are these men and their followers the ones who want to judge
you without any mercy?
(If so, may Yahweh have mercy on them!)



"When a prophet speaketh in the name of Yahweh,
if the thing follow not, nor come to pass,
that is the thing which Yahweh hath not spoken,
but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously:
thou shalt not be afraid of him." (Deuteronomy 18:22)


"The prophets are prophesying falsehood in My name.
I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them;
they are prophesying to you a false vision, divination, futility
and the deception of their own minds." (Jeremiyahj 14:14)



Perhaps not to "God" but to Yahweh surely is, prophesying falsely is not a light matter. The Bible carries dozens of warnings from Yahweh for believers to watch out for false prophets who "through covetousness" with "feigned words" shall "make merchandise" of them" (II Peter 2:3). (Another translation renders it: "In their greed they will exploit you with false words.")


How could one recognize a false prophet? "You will know them by their fruits," Yahushua answers (Matt. 7:16, RSV). Continuing the analogy Yahushua explains, "A good tree is incapable of producing bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit" (Phillips translation). What do you think Christ would say about the WCG's false prophecies in view of Matthew 7? To those "splinter-group" ministers who remain unrepentant He will declare: "Depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Matt. 7: 23).



Looking at the "Fruits." The leading WCG ministers attempt to rationalize their UTTERLY FAILED prophecies with half-thought-out quips like "a few wrong predictions never hurt anybody" or "we were just trying to fulfill our commission in Matthew 24:14 to preach a witness to the world." (Evidently many have never realized Matthew 24:14 is a prophecy, not a commission to the church.) Speaking in a ministerial conference in January 1974, Garner Ted Armstrong was also at first reluctant to admit that the church's false predictions had caused serious problems for anybody:

"[We prophesied in] fifteen years the U.S.A. will no longer be a nation, and 15 years has come and gone. Was that a mistake or not ? Yes! But why get violently emotional about it? We were utterly sincere at the time it was said! We all believed it, and furthermore that kind of copy never caused anybody to lose out on salvation, or drop out of church, or make a wrong move in their personal lives, or to throw the word of God to the ground...!"


Only a few moments later Ted all but contradicted himself by offering justifiable reasons for a person to "get violently emotional" about a prophecy that failed. He began to name a few of the "wrong moves" that had been made in personal lives:


"But '72 was the date that, you know, everything hinged on that. Nobody saved any money, nobody bought any property, nobody thought about laying up for his children's children.... We [thought we] were all going to flee or be taken away to a place of safety and everything would be left behind so [we thought]: "Why put any roots down"?"


So even Ted begrudgingly admitted false prophecies do cause harm in people's lives. (Besides, Yahweh says so in Scripture!) Some WCG members, believing the "end of the world" was coming between 1972 and 1975----as the church had prophesied so often-postponed badly needed dental work. Others decided not to buy homes, while still others sold theirs and gave a portion of the cash they received to the church. Some young people decided not to go to college but took jobs instead to earn money for the church, hoping to thereby help Herbert fulfill the prophecy found in Matthew 24:14. Many gave their savings to the church and even borrowed money in response to Herbert's pleas to help his church avert another financial crisis-especially after being told Christ was coming soon and their money would be worthless then. A short time later, some of those people were left almost penniless for having believed their "prophets," but the church says to them, "I never knew you"!


I dont think anyone wants their "blood" for having falsely prophesied anything, even though Yahweh calls for their inmediate death in Scripture. But in these days of mercy and grace these ministers and their followers and successors should be thinking more about showing some good repentance and undoing all the harm and evil they have caused to so many of Yahushua's sheep, so that they can have some mercy and compassion to bank on when its their turn at judgement. Instead of continuing to ignore, persecute and make it hard for those long-suffering sheep!


Yahushua taught that a true pastor goes after the sheep, escpecially if it he has been negligent, accomplice or directly caused that sheep to swerve from what that pastor calls TRUTH. In such cases it is never the duty of the sheep to go after the pastor. Pastors will have to give account for every sheep they dont tend to and cause to be lost. And if pastors and prophets---whoever they might happen to be--because Yahweh does not make distinction of persons---should show repentance from that evil they, their peers and their teachers, caused.



REPENT FROM HAVING CAUSED SUCH DIVISION, GRIEF AND PERSECUTION OF SO MANY OF YAHWEH'S AND YAHWSHUA'S CALLED-OUT SHEEP!


To Yahweh, if something is not true, then its a LIE. There is no other way of calling it!


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All of this right wing propaganda turned out to be complete bullshit. But that's typical and should come as no surprise to anyone who thinks rationally.
 

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Nice, goph. You're throwing tennis balls at a tank, you understand, but they're really high-quality tennis balls.

Question arose t'other day. You were infantry, were you not? If not, what? If you don't mind saying.
 

spilledthebeer

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Nice, goph. You're throwing tennis balls at a tank, you understand, but they're really high-quality tennis balls.

Question arose t'other day. You were infantry, were you not? If not, what? If you don't mind saying.




Poor tecumsehbone head- he is watching as his entire political world crumbles around him!


And he actually thinks that encouraging a religious wack job will be a real defense against the total collapse of ALL LIE-beral policy???????????? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


ALL LIE-beral policy is in the process of being FLUSHED -like turds in a toilet!


There is no hope, no help and no way to avoid that disappearance into the porcelain oblivion!!!!!!!!!!


Trump has just won a verdict from U.S. Supreme Court that he CAN BAN travellers from Muslim countries on security grounds!

And Our idiot Boy Justin here in Canada is sliding into history like a political clown car on ice into a storm of protest and complaint over his collection of illegals that he has rounded up like a crazy cat lady collecting strays!

And with predictable results! Our idiot Boy Justin desperately NEEDS votes in Quebec- and the govt there has refused to keep any more illegals! So the idiot Boy now ships them off to Ontari-owe! Which means he is now doing a FINE job of pissing off Ontari-owe!

Problem is Ontari-owe is STONY BROKE thanks to Wynne-bag LIE-berals and there is growing frustration with that stream of illegals- and no place to put them either!

Once school and sports programs begin in the autumn it is going to become a major Toronto scandal when it is discovered that all the sports arenas and college dorms are already full of illegals- that the majority of Cdns WANT DEPORTED!!

And even worse there is no patience in Ontari-owe for paying for the federal vote buying crap- Ontari-owe municipal LIE-berals need every penny for THEMSELVES! With the added bonus that Ontari-owe has just very publicly demonstrated that we are sick of LIE-berals and want Doug Ford to FIX some of the LIE-beral MESS!!!!

And as the LIE-beral sponsored trade war ramps up it is increasingly obvious that Our idiot Boy and his careless indifference to national security are to blame! Cdns DO NOT consider it a coincidence that 2 years after Our idiot Boy threw open the borders- that Toronto is seeing that spike in gun violence as gangs battle for turf!

And it does not help that Cdns recall very clearly the old newspaper reports of criminal gangs- most frequently immigrants- staging car crashes FOR PROFIT! Yes- collecting various benefits while “recovering” from “injuries” sustained in the FAKE crash- with LIE-berals telling us like broken records that our high auto insurance costs are the result of relentless FRAUD- that LIE-berals are IGNORING!!

WE have no military worthy of the name- it is all very well to have people trained- but if they have NO EQUIPMENT then they will be standing idle in a crisis!

Our police forces are under staffed and their murder solution rate has dropped from 95 percent down to roughly 70 percent- and it is still falling- meaning a lot of killer swine are getting away with murder! And it is thanks to well organized gangs that cover for each other and provide an alibi when needed!

Our security is so bad that the FBI is now doing a better job of standing on guard for Canada than we are! It was FBI that pointed out to RCMP that the guy posing with Our idiot Boy Justin in summer 2016- in the news- for a selfie- was a wanted terrorist! It was FBI that showed us how to catch the 2 Muslims who wanted to derail a VIA passenger train off Highland Creek Bridge and FBI who set our cops onto mad suicide bomber Aaron Driver and it was Yankee border security who arrested those 2 MS 13 gang members coming into United States carrying CANADIAN IDENTITY PAPERS! Apparently Isis is not the only dangerous group to infiltrate the west while hiding amongst illegals!

Even worse- Our idiot Boy paid out $4.7 billion dollars to buy the Kinder Morgan pipeline and it is now getting OBVIOUS that he bought the pipeline only so he could control and KILL IT!

The Kinder Morgan pipeline will NOT EVER BE BUILT BY ANY LIE-BERAL GOVT!

In other news-it is nice- I guess that Our idiot Boy has chosen to send some helicopters to the "peace mission" in Mali- but of course the Cdn copters will NOT TAKE PART IN ANY FIGHTING!!! The copters are there ONLY to provide medical aid by rushing the wounded and dying to hospital! This is what the Cdn military has been reduced to- supplying bandages!

The Cdn mission to Mali is the absolute, utter MINIMUM that Canada can do to help out its allies! Two helicopters to carry the wounded- this is the LIE-beral response to Trump and his push to make the world safer by making it clear to Putin and Kim and the Ayatollahs that we are NOT TOTAL SUCKERS and push overs!

Yes- one day soon federal LIE-berals will be joining their Ontari-owe cousins in singing that great old Five Man Electrical Band tune "Absolutely Right"!

So come on T-gurly- sing it for me! You know the words: "much to my surprise I find that you were absolutely right! You have been right all along. You were absolutely right and I was wrong"!

Do you have ANY idea how much money LIE-berals could earn if they got up on stage and sang that song with real feeling?

They could sell so many tickets and make so much money they would not need to steal it from us any more with their carbon crap- and trade scams!
 

spilledthebeer

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No one CAN read an incoherent post.


Poor LIE-berals- their only defense is to talk a subject to DEATH without actually DOING ANYTHING!!!!!


All that talk and not a single valid LIE-beral point made even as ALL their policies are flushed like turds in a toilet!!!!



And if western civilization did ever collapse it will be thanks to idiot LIE-berals undermining every institution!


Consider:
Here is an article that should be MUST READING for every parent with kids in the public school system. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ex-high school principal pleads guilty to literacy test tampering

From Canadian Press. Published: January 26, 2018. Updated: January 26, 2018 3:10 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

The Simcoe Muskoka Catholic District School Board. (Postmedia files)

TORONTO — A former Ontario high school principal pleaded guilty on Friday to professional misconduct after tampering with a standardized provincial literacy test.

Christine Vellinga admitted in an agreed statement of facts with the Ontario College of Teachers that she went though student booklets after the test in March 2016 to see who hadn’t completed the work.

The college heard that in total, 21 students were then called back in to complete unfinished portions of the test or an accompanying questionnaire.

“(Vellinga) recognizes the serious nature of her breach and sincerely regrets her actions and the consequences of her actions on the students staff and board,” Vellinga’s lawyer, Kim Patenaude, told the college disciplinary committee hearing the case on Friday.

“She was honest, upfront and forthcoming (throughout the investigation) admitting her actions and taking full responsibility,” Patenaude added.

(This is LIE-beral speak meaning investigators caught her red handed and she is guilty as SIN- with NO defence so she is being “cooperative”!)

Vellinga was responsible for administering the Ontario Secondary School Literacy Test to about 170 students at her Bradford, Ont., school that year, the committee heard.

Principal accused of literacy test tampering sign of larger problem: Experts

After the test, Vellinga leafed through one student’s answer booklet, trying to find loose multiple choice and questionnaire pages.

Vellinga saw the student had left some questions unanswered and began looking through other students’ booklets for unfinished tests, instructing her acting vice-principal and two teachers to do the same.

Vellinga identified which unfinished tests belonged to which students by cross-referencing bar codes on the booklet with a master list of names, the committee heard. She then had the school secretary call students back in to complete the test, in some cases calling their homes or their parents’ cellphones.

The 21 students who came back to school were led to an office area where they were each instructed to finish specific parts of the test. Vellinga told at least one student, “You were never here,” the committee heard.

(Saying “you were never here” to a kid clearly signals she knew she was breaking rules but figured nobody would ever catch her for it- which IS A COMMON teacher assumption!)

Vellinga was under a “significant amount of work-related stress” in the weeks leading up to the incident, the statement of facts said.

A supply teacher at her school had been charged with assault, and Vellinga had been experiencing problems with a student who had created a public petition and a social media post complaining about her, the statement of facts said.

Vellinga was suspended without pay for 20 days and demoted to vice-principal after allegations of the test tampering surfaced, the committee heard.

(School principals are now being selected for their skill in hushing up problems rather than for their ability to teach kids! One has only to think of the investigation into the murder of Jordan Manners on TDSB school property- while looking into the Manner murder cops uncovered evidence of a rape that had been hushed up!)

(A Muslim girl had been dragged into a washroom by a gang of black kids and forced to perform sex acts. Later after school hours a teacher found the girl wandering the hallways in a distraught condition and took her to the principal- who talked to the girl and decided the best thing was to SAY NOTHING OF WHAT HAPPENED! Yeah- the female principal decided that the best course of action was to IGNORE a team of rapists operating in her school! So much for any concern for the welfare of other kids!)

Vellinga and the college came to an agreement Friday that she should receive an official reprimand from the college, have her certificate of qualification suspended for six months and complete a course on ethical practices within 90 days of the disciplinary hearing’s decision.

(Stephen Levitt- author of the book Freakonomics told us of his experience with the Chicago school system regarding teacher test cheats. Levitt was brought in to devise ways of identifying teachers who were cheating on the new city wide literacy tests. As a result of his work- fully 25 percent of all teachers in that system were formally warned of legal consequences if they got caught cheating in future and 5 percent of teachers were FIRED due to the over the top cheating! Fully 25 percent of all kids in the Chicago school system had to re-write the test in order to get HONEST RESULTS!)

(Cdn school teachers are also systematically undermining our literacy test by designating ever more kids as “learning disabled” and thus not eligible to write the test- with obvious influence on test scores! Our teachers have far too much leeway in excusing kids from the test- for their own benefit! Cdn school officials have NEVER conducted the sort of audit that our Yankee counterparts have done! Such a test of the teachers is BADLY OVER DUE in Canada!!!!)