WE really need to get rid of this guy

Ron in Regina

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http://thepostmillennial.com/five-years-worth-of-records-on-trudeaus-fees-destroyed
Conservative MP Michael Barrett questioned how Speakers' Spotlight could confirm the authenticity of Trudeau's records after having destroyed their own copies of them. "Interestingly, this committee ordered those documents in the previous session,” Barrett said, further arguing that “Canadians need these answers."

Barrett noted that Speakers' Spotlight had previously asked for an extension to prepare the documents for the committee, a request which was granted. "The committee granted them all the time that was requested," Barrett said. "On the eve that those documents were to be released to the committee, and on the day that illegally redacted documents were released to the Finance Committee, Justin Trudeau prorogued parliament," he noted. "He shut down the House and locked out committees."

"Since that time, Speakers' Spotlight has communicated with the committee clerk once this session started, and even said the documents were ready to go."
This just doesn't add up, unless they meant "the documents were ready to go into the shreader or the fireplace" or what have you at that point?
 

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I'm no fan of the Liberals or Trudeau but the demonizing of Trudeau and the Liberals are a stupid as demonizing the Conservatives. Politics is a game they play to keep stupid people fighting each other over nonsense, while the ruling elite go about robbing you blind. The only solution to this madness of a seesaw roller coaster ride is to abandon the party system altogether and for all representative to independents. Otherwise, the system will keep y'all fighting over table scraps and imaginary differences based on imaginary choices.

Not sure about the only solution but agree we are getting no where with what we have and the rich are getting richer. That said; my one vote doesn't do much.
 

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Meanwhile back at the ranch the contract submissions for the F18 replacement program closed July 31. May as well just toss it to the Americans and try to get back on their good side.
 

bob the dog

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http://thepostmillennial.com/five-years-worth-of-records-on-trudeaus-fees-destroyed This just doesn't add up, unless they meant "the documents were ready to go into the shreader or the fireplace" or what have you at that point?

Sorry for derailing the thread Ron.

J.T. is beyond accountability, no one really cares because so many have good government jobs and most like it that way..

People no longer are looking beyond the end of their nose, good of the country comes later. Print more money.
 

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No reason to apologize to me. I didn’t start the thread & I won’t Finnish it. Those that have their minds made up will still have their minds made up regardless of what happens or how blatant it is, as it’s just the way it is. All we can do is just point out the ridiculously nasty examples of contempt for all of us Canadians that are paying for this, or who have children or grandchildren that will be paying for this. We vote for people to represent us in Gov’t and deserve to know if they truly are doing so or if they’re abusing that trust and their positions to reward their own families or other cronies at our expense.

There will always be the Hoid’s or Mentalfloss’s or what have you that will defend the actions of the corrupt if the corruption aligns their their own political leanings regardless of the stink rolling off of it....but put the shenanigans out there in the light of day when you see it ‘cuz not everyone that will see it will be political junkies or partisan hacks that might either be unaware of what’s happening in the political sphere or they still have the abilities to think for themselves given the facts.
 

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Kenney and O'Toole are not even close to the lunacy of Trump. Not even in the same universe.
Yes it was a a racist move to guarantee funding for black colleges and set up opportunity zones . And three solid judges elected to the Supreme Court is total lunacy . Please remind me of the successful lunacy f Kenney and O’Foole .
 

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Canadian conservatives are being presented with American conservatives in order to attempt to demonize them....by yourself, and I believe that’s the purpose and the only purpose. It’s not like they are the same thing and if you need to compare them to American conservatives (PS compared to what we call conservatives in Canada the Democrats in the US are conservatives if you want to compare anything against anything else....) in the attempt to demonize them, isn’t that an admitted failure? Demonize them on their own merit or lack there of. US Democrats & Republicans are way right on the scale compared to anything available in Canada, aren’t they?
No they are not . That is a falicy .
 

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Thread about the Trudeau govt's total lack of accountability and transparency? You couldn't even make this shit up. I haven't been able to verify this beyond a few sites but: http://lakesuperiornews.com/News/legally-ordered-we-documents-destroyed Or http://thepostmillennial.com/five-years-worth-of-records-on-trudeaus-fees-destroyed

Five years' worth of documents ordered in WE probe on Trudeau's speaking fees destroyed??

The Parliamentary Ethics Committee requested records on all of Trudeau's speaking engagements since 2008 with Speakers' Spotlight Toronto. The committee has been seeking the records since July, but has been subject to filibusters by Liberal MPs to prevent their release.

The Prime Minister in October released his own records of speaking fees dating between 2006-2013, from which he collected over $1.3 million. Trudeau's speaking fees greatly increased after he became an MP in 2008, averaging $20,000 per engagement. Liberal Party House Leader Pablo Rodriguez described the move as "a demonstration of transparency," and Speakers' Spotlight has claimed that Trudeau's records are authentic.

Conservative MP Michael Barrett questioned how Speakers' Spotlight could confirm the authenticity of Trudeau's records after having destroyed their own copies of them. "Interestingly, this committee ordered those documents in the previous session,” Barrett said, further arguing that “Canadians need these answers."

Barrett noted that Speakers' Spotlight had previously asked for an extension to prepare the documents for the committee, a request which was granted. "The committee granted them all the time that was requested," Barrett said. "On the eve that those documents were to be released to the committee, and on the day that illegally redacted documents were released to the Finance Committee, Justin Trudeau prorogued parliament," he noted. "He shut down the House and locked out committees."

"Since that time, Speakers' Spotlight has communicated with the committee clerk once this session started, and even said the documents were ready to go."

The revelation is likely to further fuel accusations of corruption against the Liberal Party and Justin Trudeau. Opposition parties attempted to set up a committee to investigate corruption in government in response to the WE Charity scandal, but the motion was shot down after the Liberals threatened to dissolve government and call an election mid-pandemic if the motion was passed. According to the Liberal Party, such a motion would be treated as a non-confidence vote.

Records released by WE Charity reveal that the Trudeau family had already profited over $400,000 from speaking fees paid by their organization alone. The files released by Trudeau did not include any payments from WE Charity prior to 2013.

Whoopsie, a fleet of Libs tripped & 5,000+ Documents that they've been trying to hide for months fell into the shredder. It could happen....right?
Nice hair though .
 

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No reason to apologize to me. I didn’t start the thread & I won’t Finnish it. Those that have their minds made up will still have their minds made up regardless of what happens or how blatant it is, as it’s just the way it is. All we can do is just point out the ridiculously nasty examples of contempt for all of us Canadians that are paying for this, or who have children or grandchildren that will be paying for this. We vote for people to represent us in Gov’t and deserve to know if they truly are doing so or if they’re abusing that trust and their positions to reward their own families or other cronies at our expense.

There will always be the Hoid’s or Mentalfloss’s or what have you that will defend the actions of the corrupt if the corruption aligns their their own political leanings regardless of the stink rolling off of it....but put the shenanigans out there in the light of day when you see it ‘cuz not everyone that will see it will be political junkies or partisan hacks that might either be unaware of what’s happening in the political sphere or they still have the abilities to think for themselves given the facts.
I wonder if you feel the same regarding possible voting irregularities in some crucial American States ?
 

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I wonder if you feel the same regarding possible voting irregularities in some crucial American States ?
in all honesty I follow American politics very loosely to the extent as to how they would affect Canada and Canadians. By no means am I passionate about American politics, but I am in awe of how convoluted a two party system can actually be....& I’m sure there are Americans on this board who can point out the filth & irregularities in the election results and so on and so forth from their side of the border.
 

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in all honesty I follow American politics very loosely to the extent as to how they would affect Canada and Canadians. By no means am I passionate about American politics, but I am in awe of how convoluted a two party system can actually be....& I’m sure there are Americans on this board who can point out the filth & irregularities in the election results and so on and so forth from their side of the border.
My point is there is little or no curiosity into whether or not these allegations are serious . I find that outrageous as the sanctity of our elections is the foundation of our democracies .

May the best cheater win .
 

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I'm no fan of the Liberals or Trudeau but the demonizing of Trudeau and the Liberals are a stupid as demonizing the Conservatives. Politics is a game they play to keep stupid people fighting each other over nonsense, while the ruling elite go about robbing you blind. The only solution to this madness of a seesaw roller coaster ride is to abandon the party system altogether and for all representative to independents. Otherwise, the system will keep y'all fighting over table scraps and imaginary differences based on imaginary choices.
You mean like your leftist masters and the MSM got you to do with Trump. Seriously, I keep hearing that Trump is a racist and yet not one single person making that claim has been able to provide a single shred of evidence of his alleged racism. And no, your moral relativism aside, being anti-illegal immigration is NOT racist.


You are exactly the kind of person you're talking about. The moment Trump won the Primaries it was nothing but a full on assault against him by the MSM, the Democrats and Republicans who see themselves as the established political elite. And you jumped right on the bandwagon. You pushed the Putin/Russia-Trump collusion propaganda despite not a single shred of proof of any collusion.
You've continually pushed the racist propaganda despite the fact that he isn't.
You've cried and whined about Trump doing, or being accused of doing shit that Trudeau actually did.
The list goes on.


You think you can "see through the matrix" but the shit you come out with says quite the opposite. How many anti-Trump memes have you posted vs how many anti-Trudeau memes? I don't think you've posted any anti-Trudeau memes and yet you're a Canadian fighting over stupid nonsense in a foreign country.


Here's the difference between you and I Cliffy. I'll still defend Trudeau when he gets one right, which is rare. I think it's pretty clear how I feel about the goof but I also believe in giving credit where credit is due. Most recently it was regarding SMRs. Some guy was lamenting that Trudeau was taking Canada out of the energy game and I had to point out to him that in fact Trudeau is putting Canada back on the nuclear power map with a program to build SMR's here in Canada. I think he finally figured out how monumentally stupid it is to try and power a nation the size of Canada (or nay nation really) solely with the vagaries of weather.


Trump did good shit and he did not so good shit. But not one leftard out there was willing to actually give him credit for the good shit he did. Nah, they'd rather cry about made-up shit about him. THAT is what partisan twats who can't think for themselves do.


You see Cliffy, while Trump was busy restoring and boosting the funding to Historically Black Colleges and Universities that OBAMA had slashed, supposedly "woke" morons like yourself were calling him a racist 'cuz dat's what da MSM told ya ta t'ink. Seriously bud, you are exactly the kind of "stupid people" you referred to. You played right into the politics of division after telling everyone you can see through "the Matrix". I got news for ya Neo, no you can't.
 

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You mean like your leftist masters and the MSM got you to do with Trump. Seriously, I keep hearing that Trump is a racist and yet not one single person making that claim has been able to provide a single shred of evidence of his alleged racism. And no, your moral relativism aside, being anti-illegal immigration is NOT racist.


You are exactly the kind of person you're talking about. The moment Trump won the Primaries it was nothing but a full on assault against him by the MSM, the Democrats and Republicans who see themselves as the established political elite. And you jumped right on the bandwagon. You pushed the Putin/Russia-Trump collusion propaganda despite not a single shred of proof of any collusion.
You've continually pushed the racist propaganda despite the fact that he isn't.
You've cried and whined about Trump doing, or being accused of doing shit that Trudeau actually did.
The list goes on.


You think you can "see through the matrix" but the shit you come out with says quite the opposite. How many anti-Trump memes have you posted vs how many anti-Trudeau memes? I don't think you've posted any anti-Trudeau memes and yet you're a Canadian fighting over stupid nonsense in a foreign country.


Here's the difference between you and I Cliffy. I'll still defend Trudeau when he gets one right, which is rare. I think it's pretty clear how I feel about the goof but I also believe in giving credit where credit is due. Most recently it was regarding SMRs. Some guy was lamenting that Trudeau was taking Canada out of the energy game and I had to point out to him that in fact Trudeau is putting Canada back on the nuclear power map with a program to build SMR's here in Canada. I think he finally figured out how monumentally stupid it is to try and power a nation the size of Canada (or nay nation really) solely with the vagaries of weather.


Trump did good shit and he did not so good shit. But not one leftard out there was willing to actually give him credit for the good shit he did. Nah, they'd rather cry about made-up shit about him. THAT is what partisan twats who can't think for themselves do.


You see Cliffy, while Trump was busy restoring and boosting the funding to Historically Black Colleges and Universities that OBAMA had slashed, supposedly "woke" morons like yourself were calling him a racist 'cuz dat's what da MSM told ya ta t'ink. Seriously bud, you are exactly the kind of "stupid people" you referred to. You played right into the politics of division after telling everyone you can see through "the Matrix". I got news for ya Neo, no you can't.
He hates all politicals equally, but Republicans are the worst .
 

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Yes it was a a racist move to guarantee funding for black colleges and set up opportunity zones . And three solid judges elected to the Supreme Court is total lunacy . Please remind me of the successful lunacy f Kenney and O’Foole .


Successful, hah!


Keep apologizing for this orange clown. Highlights of his tenor.

People carrying weapons at the ready in the streets, plots to kidnap a governor, leaving NATO partners holding their dicks in Syria, tax evasion, mail order wives, paying off and threatening porn stars, withholding funds from Ukraine unless they gave him dirt on his political opponent, lying about a virus that has killed a quarter of a million Americans and admitting it, and even with that packing stadiums of mask-less [brainless] supporters into stadiums and saying, "It's just a flu, it'll just disappear."

He is the worst president the United States has ever elected.
He's never met a dictator he didn't like, but he's alienated many of his Western alliances.

Even Trudeau doesn't find his way into this universe of idiocy.

The question is, "Why?" Why are people supporting him?
The answer is "The United States is a nation steeped in racism." Trump has given these pigs of humanity a platform to sling their hate, and once again step from the shadows. These lunatics are quoting bible scripture, asking the Lord to overturn the results. "It's the end times," they cry.


Why anyone in Canada, even the most rabid Trudeau hater, would defend Trump is beyond me.
He is no friend of Canada.
Maybe a little self reflection is in order.
 

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Successful, hah!


Keep apologizing for this orange clown. Highlights of his tenor.

People carrying weapons at the ready in the streets, plots to kidnap a governor, leaving NATO partners holding their dicks in Syria, tax evasion, mail order wives, paying off and threatening porn stars, withholding funds from Ukraine unless they gave him dirt on his political opponent, lying about a virus that has killed a quarter of a million Americans and admitting it, and even with that packing stadiums of mask-less [brainless] supporters into stadiums and saying, "It's just a flu, it'll just disappear."

He is the worst president the United States has ever elected.
He's never met a dictator he didn't like, but he's alienated many of his Western alliances.

Even Trudeau doesn't find his way into this universe of idiocy.

The question is, "Why?" Why are people supporting him?
The answer is "The United States is a nation steeped in racism." Trump has given these pigs of humanity a platform to sling their hate, and once again step from the shadows. These lunatics are quoting bible scripture, asking the Lord to overturn the results. "It's the end times," they cry.


Why anyone in Canada, even the most rabid Trudeau hater, would defend Trump is beyond me.
He is no friend of Canada.
Maybe a little self reflection is in order.
Well he doesn’t want to take your guns away . His successors have different ideas . Go ahead follow the media into the boxcars with no guns in your cold dead hands .
 

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Well he doesn’t want to take your guns away . His successors have different ideas . Go ahead follow the media into the boxcars with no guns in your cold dead hands .
Maybe a little reflection from you is in order . It was Joe Biden who withheld funds from Ukraine . Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister in Canada’s history whereas Trump has been one of the best Presidents in American history . Of course with the media running with every conspiracy and religiously reporting on his terrible tweets you hear nothing of his success . Do you not think there is a good reason 72,000,000 Americans voted for the man , more then in 2016 I might add .

Before you tell me they are all uneducated troglodytes remember they are the same people who voted Obama twice .
 

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Maybe a little reflection from you is in order . It was Joe Biden who withheld funds from Ukraine . Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister in Canada’s history whereas Trump has been one of the best Presidents in American history . Of course with the media running with every conspiracy and religiously reporting on his terrible tweets you hear nothing of his success . Do you not think there is a good reason 72,000,000 Americans voted for the man , more then in 2016 I might add .

Before you tell me they are all uneducated troglodytes remember they are the same people who voted Obama twice .

To the first part, wow, agree, holy ****ing shit no. Yes, yes, oh that. Eye roll.

And to your final question.


Yes, because Biden sucks too. I think Trump would have won if not for the pandemic. 250,000 dead can swing a lot of votes.

The last four years have been complete lunacy, he's hired and fired more contestants than on that stupid show of his. He is embarrassment to the country he leads, calling fallen soldiers "Suckers and losers." The Republicans need to reclaim their party after this pig of president is gone. He is a raving idiot, lacking common sense or grace, and I suggest his cheese is sliding off his cracker.
 

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To the first part, wow, agree, holy ****ing shit no. Yes, yes, oh that. Eye roll.

And to your final question.


Yes, because Biden sucks too. I think Trump would have won if not for the pandemic. 250,000 dead can swing a lot of votes.

The last four years have been complete lunacy, he's hired and fired more contestants than on that stupid show of his. He is embarrassment to the country he leads, calling fallen soldiers "Suckers and losers." The Republicans need to reclaim their party after this pig of president is gone. He is a raving idiot, lacking common sense or grace, and I suggest his cheese is sliding off his cracker.
The lunacy was in the press and those that believe them . Did you not like , not seeing a politician apologize for nothing ? The press have never had a Republican or conservative not bow down before them before . They see how their power over the narrative fails if Trump wins . Shit it was they press that convinced Ontario conservatives they must act like Liberals to get elected . Hence Scheer and O’Foole and Trudeau how is that working ?