Water-fuel car unveiled in Japan

#juan

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a mechanic mate of mine back home ran his car using water injection.......it was a 1975 XB Ford Falcon GT. Don't expect you to know what that was, but you can look it up using www.anzwers.com.
anyway, he was getting around 35mpg from this "dinasaur" 351 Clevland engine



besides....I saw the documentry on the waterpowered car I mentioned above.....did you?

Stretch, I'm 69 years old. I am a retired mechanical engineer.

I know what a Ford Falcon is. I also know what water injection is......It is not water used as a fuel.

The "documentary" on the water fueled car was a complete hoax....nothing more.
 

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Hey, Stretch, we don't intend on plugging into the grid once we start running on electricity. We're going to install solar panels for that. (Also to help us reduce our demand on the grid).
Might consider buying foreign sometime if it has more style than most of these things running about these days. 99% of cars look like large electric shavers to me.
 

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Stretch, I'm 69 years old. I am a retired mechanical engineer.

I know what a Ford Falcon is. I also know what water injection is......It is not water used as a fuel.

The "documentary" on the water fueled car was a complete hoax....nothing more.
yep, you're right, two diff things, but I've seen both.....
 

#juan

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Gee ... I remember water-powered trains. We called 'em steam engines.

Seriousy, back in the very early 70's I recall reading something about a steam powered car that performed just about as well as small V-8. The vehicle was a 1969 Grand Prix and the engine was a cast-iron four cylinder GM block. A cylindrical upright boiler dominated one side (the passenger side) and a gas burner (can't recall the fuel) occupied the other. This was in the days when you could hold a party in the engine room. Nothing came of it because it did lack in power for the hot rod crowd (any self-respecting 283 would have blown its doors off) and by the time of the first energy crisis, nobody noticed it had ever been around.

I believe Bill Lear built an Indy car with a steam engine. That car would likely have been successful but the organizers changed the rules to disallow the steam car.
 

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And that goes back to physics and the water car. You drain batteries to use electrical energy for mechanical energy, you can't regain that. In a hybrid, you can regain energy spent on momentum from the kJ in your gasoline. In a plug-in you can do the same, and charge the batteries with your own energy if you build the solar panels, or micro-hydro, or wind-mills. Of course there is money for that. The price of gas will see to that shortly.
doesnt mechanical energy recharge the battery in your vehicle now?
 

Tonington

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doesnt mechanical energy recharge the battery in your vehicle now?

Not enough to fully charge an electric vehicle. That is the same concept as the hybrid. Using stored energy in the momentum to recharge electric motors. In a fully electric car, you can't get back the energy you spent moving x-distance to fully charge your motors. You can get some, sure. Just as in the hybrid, you can get some, but there's two different sources to get that mechanical energy from.

Even Homer Simpson's house followed the rules of thermodynamics.
 

Stretch

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well, as an "electric" car uses its energy, there are 3 other sources of energy on tap... mechanical, solar and wind....how many sources does it take to replenish these batteries?
 

Tonington

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well, as an "electric" car uses its energy, there are 3 other sources of energy on tap... mechanical, solar and wind....how many sources does it take to replenish these batteries?

Yah, I know. I mentioned them to you a couple of responses back. Your conspiracy has come full circle. Sources do exist to charge your batteries, but you can't fully charge the batteries by recycling your spent battery energy. Electric cars do exist. I plan on converting my fathers old truck after I'm finished school for about $6500, maybe less if the economy of scale works in my favour over the next few years.
 

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Yah, I know. I mentioned them to you a couple of responses back. Your conspiracy has come full circle. Sources do exist to charge your batteries, but you can't fully charge the batteries by recycling your spent battery energy. Electric cars do exist. I plan on converting my fathers old truck after I'm finished school for about $6500, maybe less if the economy of scale works in my favour over the next few years.

I'm inclineing this way myself, $6500 sounds resonable, even cheap. My plan is to link it to the wind turbines.
 

Tonington

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I'm inclineing this way myself, $6500 sounds resonable, even cheap. My plan is to link it to the wind turbines.

And be sure to mount some of your high yield particle weapons for those pesky government certifiers :D

Yell out: "Just try and keep me off the road!"