Washington Furious over Martin's Comments
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If washington wants to have apoplexy over Martins comments......let them. :roll: :roll: Seems the rest of the world has due cause to be royally dissed off at the barage of crap it gets from the bushwashington. (and justifiably so)
Oh, Bush bashing? My favorite pastime.
Actually, most of our excess emissions seem to be as a result of our digging oil out of the tar sands to feed the gaping maw of America.
I can think of a simple solution, but I don't think my friends in Alberta will like it.
Oh, I forgot.
Hi guys, I'm Surpluss.
I'm a pain in the ass.
Hee hee
Actually, most of our excess emissions seem to be as a result of our digging oil out of the tar sands to feed the gaping maw of America.
I can think of a simple solution, but I don't think my friends in Alberta will like it.
Oh, I forgot.
Hi guys, I'm Surpluss.
I'm a pain in the ass.
Hee hee
Did anyone see the US Ambassador's remarks about the election and .........golly gee....using the bush regime as a political football??? More veiled and not so veiled threats from the SOB's to the south of us.
What frichen right does the AMBASSADOR have to interfere in OUR politics...... ???
Is there anywhere that they don't meddle and get their dirty , filthy fingers in??? One can really see .......why any tolerance for THEM is vanishing....and rage in increasing.
Can you imagine what the US would say if our ambassador got involved in their political machine??
Does the US NOT KNOW how to play fair /respectful or dignified??
(no need to answer that one...... :evil:
MR.Ambassador..........MIND YOUR OWN FRICHEN BUSINESS......
........we are frichen tired of tip toeing around this overly aggressive primate.....Neanderthal.
What frichen right does the AMBASSADOR have to interfere in OUR politics...... ???
Is there anywhere that they don't meddle and get their dirty , filthy fingers in??? One can really see .......why any tolerance for THEM is vanishing....and rage in increasing.
Can you imagine what the US would say if our ambassador got involved in their political machine??
Does the US NOT KNOW how to play fair /respectful or dignified??
(no need to answer that one...... :evil:
MR.Ambassador..........MIND YOUR OWN FRICHEN BUSINESS......
........we are frichen tired of tip toeing around this overly aggressive primate.....Neanderthal.
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Well, looks like the Bush regime gave Martin another bump in the polls today. They went after him for saying bad things about the US, giving Martin another opportunity to say bad things about the US. Martin also got a slam in on Harper while doing it.
That'll be worth a point or two in the polls tomorrow.
Well, looks like the Bush regime gave Martin another bump in the polls today. They went after him for saying bad things about the US, giving Martin another opportunity to say bad things about the US. Martin also got a slam in on Harper while doing it.
That'll be worth a point or two in the polls tomorrow.
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Paul Martin shrugs off White House rebuke
A teaser:
The White House made an unusual foray into Canadian electoral politics Tuesday, scolding Prime Minister Paul Martin for his tough talk on U.S. policies. But rather than quiet the Liberal leader, the rebuke fuelled his fire.
In a speech to the Canadian Club at Ottawa's historic Chateau Laurier Hotel, U.S. President George Bush's envoy to Canada accused Martin of trying to score cheap political points by bashing America.
"I understand political expediency, but the last time I looked, the United States was not on the ballot for the Jan. 23 election," Wilkins told the crowd gathered just steps away from Parliament Hill.
"Just think about this. What if one of our best friends criticized you directly and incorrectly almost relentlessly? What if that friend's agenda was to highlight your perceived flaws while avoiding mentioning your successes? What if that friend demanded respect but offered little in return?" Wilkins asked. [/end of teaser]
Well we all know Ocean that the US likes to butt its nose into everything that goes on in the world. Thats why so many people hate them, they cannot mind their own business.
Also Bushie wushie the lushie would love nothing more than his buddy Harper to get in, so he can steal our resources, set up missle defence, set our forgein policy, influence our domestic policy etc.
Best friend puleeease! We see how they treat their best friends on trade. :roll:
Paul Martin shrugs off White House rebuke
A teaser:
The White House made an unusual foray into Canadian electoral politics Tuesday, scolding Prime Minister Paul Martin for his tough talk on U.S. policies. But rather than quiet the Liberal leader, the rebuke fuelled his fire.
In a speech to the Canadian Club at Ottawa's historic Chateau Laurier Hotel, U.S. President George Bush's envoy to Canada accused Martin of trying to score cheap political points by bashing America.
"I understand political expediency, but the last time I looked, the United States was not on the ballot for the Jan. 23 election," Wilkins told the crowd gathered just steps away from Parliament Hill.
"Just think about this. What if one of our best friends criticized you directly and incorrectly almost relentlessly? What if that friend's agenda was to highlight your perceived flaws while avoiding mentioning your successes? What if that friend demanded respect but offered little in return?" Wilkins asked. [/end of teaser]
Well we all know Ocean that the US likes to butt its nose into everything that goes on in the world. Thats why so many people hate them, they cannot mind their own business.
Also Bushie wushie the lushie would love nothing more than his buddy Harper to get in, so he can steal our resources, set up missle defence, set our forgein policy, influence our domestic policy etc.
Best friend puleeease! We see how they treat their best friends on trade. :roll:
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could well be! Two birds with one stone. almost clever..;-)
Did you see that anal retentive of a US AmbASS ador today ???
trying so hard to couch his words in political nice speak.....while making more threats.
Reverend Blair said:
could well be! Two birds with one stone. almost clever..;-)
Did you see that anal retentive of a US AmbASS ador today ???
trying so hard to couch his words in political nice speak.....while making more threats.
GOOD, :!: :!: as otherwise he would just be appeasing them, and who needs that crap. They wanna play verbal hardball........ fine...let them on their own time. We will perfect our shrugs... :wink: and dismissals.
( as everyone knows......the US RESENTS being shrugged at or dismissed....... :wink:
BEST FRIENDS???? :lol: :lol: IF this is how they treat their best friends ......would hate to be their enemy. ( and we have seen how they treat their "enemies"........real or those they APPOINT as such ...fare.[/quote]
Geez Martin is pissing off Bush yea right .I would guess their working toghether on this give Martin a boost in the polls and help him shed that wimp image of his .Martin standing up to the US I'm not buying it .Looks like a bullshit scam to pull the wool over gulible Canadians eyes .Where was this before the Election .Nowhere :evil:
not sure about that one. From what I am reading....it does not take much to piss bush off these days......(he is having temper tantrums and screaming bouts in the oval office......according to some staff who are quitting due to the stress level.
But considering the number of things that piss bush off ....not sure how high this is on his piss off scale.. :wink:
Is it possible that Martin has developed some real cojones?? ( I hear that surgical procedures in this area is quite advanced now. :wink:
Nah, if he'd done that we'd have a real Kyoto plan.
He's electioneering and it's a tactic that works. That doesn't make what he said wrong though.
ya know........someone will have to call the US on these "threats" ......veiled and otherwise. Plus on the fact that their Ambassador really does not have any position in OUR election.
Handling the bush regime verbosity is pretty easy....as all they have to say is" they are entitled to their opinion".
......but they might add that using the rhetoric of aggression. and veiled threats is totally counterproductive to our "friendship and that it is best NOT to test it during hi stress times like "elections".
Handling the bush regime verbosity is pretty easy....as all they have to say is" they are entitled to their opinion".
......but they might add that using the rhetoric of aggression. and veiled threats is totally counterproductive to our "friendship and that it is best NOT to test it during hi stress times like "elections".
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The whole friendship thing makes me giggle. Countries do not have friends, they have interests. When those interests diverge there are disagreements. Georgie can cry all he wants to, but he still won't be our friend.
The whole thing about how Canada and the US have to have a good relationship is a joke too. We had a good relationship before Bush came into office. Now we don't. Bush is the variable, not us.
The whole friendship thing makes me giggle. Countries do not have friends, they have interests. When those interests diverge there are disagreements. Georgie can cry all he wants to, but he still won't be our friend.
The whole thing about how Canada and the US have to have a good relationship is a joke too. We had a good relationship before Bush came into office. Now we don't. Bush is the variable, not us.
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agree about the "friendship" thing. Bush loves to personalize their relationships into "friends" ,"enemies" and the axis of evil. (sheesh.....) Everytime I hear him say "friend" I think TRAITOR..... as he plays "Friends " against one another to fit his own frichen agenda. the US was "friends " with SH when it suited them.........and now SH is the scum of the planet ......according to his former pals.
and YES......bush is the variable.......not us. (and not the rest of the world either ) (although one can only imagine how THEY would spin it...... being that they are NEVER to blame for ANYTHING) :evil: .......sarcasm intended.
the reality is that it is business with a good dose of politics involved.
Reverend Blair said:
agree about the "friendship" thing. Bush loves to personalize their relationships into "friends" ,"enemies" and the axis of evil. (sheesh.....) Everytime I hear him say "friend" I think TRAITOR..... as he plays "Friends " against one another to fit his own frichen agenda. the US was "friends " with SH when it suited them.........and now SH is the scum of the planet ......according to his former pals.
and YES......bush is the variable.......not us. (and not the rest of the world either ) (although one can only imagine how THEY would spin it...... being that they are NEVER to blame for ANYTHING) :evil: .......sarcasm intended.
the reality is that it is business with a good dose of politics involved.
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I'm glad that somebody said it, everyone was thinking it. The US is just trying to save their economy from the damage this cutting emissions will do, but the fact of the matter is that we have to do it no matter what, whether it's desireable or not. We have to cut these gas emissions or the planet will have a catastrophic climate shift, and possibly wipe us out.
Threats from the US is a joke, because we have the US by the balls. At our whim, we could crash the US economy, but this would be MAD (Mutially Assured Distruction), since the world economy would collapse, this includes ours. However, if the US did threaten to invade, we'd just blow up our own refineries and gas lines, and you'd freeze and starve to death in a month. This would create total chaos within the US, and any kind of an invasion would be futile, and most likely it would result in a second American civil war. The achilles heel of the US is energy, energy you get from us, and don't forget that.
I don't think it even matters if the US won't sign onto the kyoto accord, we'll just add a federal oil production tax to fund the development of sustainable resources within our own country. If American's want to hurt us, cutting their emissions is about all they can do, since their wastefulness is what's making our country filthy rich on resource revenues.
The funny thing is that if the US didn't consume so much, Canada's emissions would be naturally cut as most of our pollution comes from the extraction and processing of raw materials to satisfy the US' wastefulness. If the US did cut it's wastefulness, Canadian emission targets would fall right in line Kyoto without us Canadians sacrificing any of our luxuries. This is why we aren't doing anything to cut emissions, as limiting the US emission, would do this for us. See, we are the smartest country in the world, and we kept our population regulated so that we can live this way forever without enough of an impact to effect the planet. The problem isn't emissions that coincide with our way of life, but rather it's that the worlds population is simply too big for everyone to live like us. The US has around 16 times as many people living on an even smaller landmass. It's unfair to say that the average Canadian can't produce anymore than the average American, simply because they have 16 times our population, and should only be producing 1/16 the emissions of the average Canadian. This would mean that the US would have to become a 2nd or even a 3rd world nation by complying. Every country in the world, except a few, needs to reduce it's population or it's quality of living, as you can't have both. The US has decided it will steal the resources from others instead, which will blow up in their faces quite literally. Here's why.
The time to reduce the world populous slowly through birthrate contol has long since past. The US, China, India, and the EU have all decided that they won't compromise on population reduction or quality of life reduction, so war is inevitable over the means to maintain both. Do to the greed of these nations, they are going to get their populations reduced, and their desired quality of life will most likely also be lost, as infrastructure from such a war won't be easily replaced without cheap resources like in the past. If you are a lower class citizen in any of these Countries, expect to see combat. Us Canadians are just going to sit back and make a crapload from this war, and use wealth to create a sustainable domestic economy. Then we'll help the countries mentioned above get back on their feet by aiding them with our resources, but the catch will be that they'll have to adopt the Canadian way of life too. I bet everyone wished they listened to those crazy environmentalists now eh?
I'm glad that somebody said it, everyone was thinking it. The US is just trying to save their economy from the damage this cutting emissions will do, but the fact of the matter is that we have to do it no matter what, whether it's desireable or not. We have to cut these gas emissions or the planet will have a catastrophic climate shift, and possibly wipe us out.
Threats from the US is a joke, because we have the US by the balls. At our whim, we could crash the US economy, but this would be MAD (Mutially Assured Distruction), since the world economy would collapse, this includes ours. However, if the US did threaten to invade, we'd just blow up our own refineries and gas lines, and you'd freeze and starve to death in a month. This would create total chaos within the US, and any kind of an invasion would be futile, and most likely it would result in a second American civil war. The achilles heel of the US is energy, energy you get from us, and don't forget that.
I don't think it even matters if the US won't sign onto the kyoto accord, we'll just add a federal oil production tax to fund the development of sustainable resources within our own country. If American's want to hurt us, cutting their emissions is about all they can do, since their wastefulness is what's making our country filthy rich on resource revenues.
The funny thing is that if the US didn't consume so much, Canada's emissions would be naturally cut as most of our pollution comes from the extraction and processing of raw materials to satisfy the US' wastefulness. If the US did cut it's wastefulness, Canadian emission targets would fall right in line Kyoto without us Canadians sacrificing any of our luxuries. This is why we aren't doing anything to cut emissions, as limiting the US emission, would do this for us. See, we are the smartest country in the world, and we kept our population regulated so that we can live this way forever without enough of an impact to effect the planet. The problem isn't emissions that coincide with our way of life, but rather it's that the worlds population is simply too big for everyone to live like us. The US has around 16 times as many people living on an even smaller landmass. It's unfair to say that the average Canadian can't produce anymore than the average American, simply because they have 16 times our population, and should only be producing 1/16 the emissions of the average Canadian. This would mean that the US would have to become a 2nd or even a 3rd world nation by complying. Every country in the world, except a few, needs to reduce it's population or it's quality of living, as you can't have both. The US has decided it will steal the resources from others instead, which will blow up in their faces quite literally. Here's why.
The time to reduce the world populous slowly through birthrate contol has long since past. The US, China, India, and the EU have all decided that they won't compromise on population reduction or quality of life reduction, so war is inevitable over the means to maintain both. Do to the greed of these nations, they are going to get their populations reduced, and their desired quality of life will most likely also be lost, as infrastructure from such a war won't be easily replaced without cheap resources like in the past. If you are a lower class citizen in any of these Countries, expect to see combat. Us Canadians are just going to sit back and make a crapload from this war, and use wealth to create a sustainable domestic economy. Then we'll help the countries mentioned above get back on their feet by aiding them with our resources, but the catch will be that they'll have to adopt the Canadian way of life too. I bet everyone wished they listened to those crazy environmentalists now eh?
A.Finest: very impressive post. Bravo.
( love the fact you stated that Canada is the SMARTEST....country.
One cannot compare SMART ......with the disposables of rich, or what ever.
and hopefully.......we will continue to play calm, and very smart. (while being understated)
( love the fact you stated that Canada is the SMARTEST....country.
One cannot compare SMART ......with the disposables of rich, or what ever.
and hopefully.......we will continue to play calm, and very smart. (while being understated)
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Check this out:
Damn these Liberals are slippery scum.
The entire scenario was set up to appeal to Canadian anti-American bias, and when the Yanks didn't bite, the CBC (the Ministry of Truth) etc. created US outrage.
Unbeliveable.
That even ignores the fact that Martin promised in the mid nineties to reduce GHG by 20%..........and it has increased by 24%, much more than the US increase.
Reverend Blair said:
Check this out:
Damn these Liberals are slippery scum.
The entire scenario was set up to appeal to Canadian anti-American bias, and when the Yanks didn't bite, the CBC (the Ministry of Truth) etc. created US outrage.
Unbeliveable.
That even ignores the fact that Martin promised in the mid nineties to reduce GHG by 20%..........and it has increased by 24%, much more than the US increase.