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karrie

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I agree. Learn to trust (and by that I mean seek counseling for you two), or learn to leave. Keyloggers and other such crap is low. If you think she's cheating, then you need help anyway. You don't need to wait for proof. You already know something in your marriage is broken, with proof of an affair or not. Seek help, or seek distance.
 

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You both are responding to a scenario in your minds. There are many scenarios that could mean a key logger is a good idea.

Maybe he has children with her. Maybe he doesn't want to "buy her a house." Maybe there are cultural implications for her and him so proof is essential.

I think supposing you know what is happening is dangerous.
 
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Your making some pretty huge assumptions.

Perhaps she's also a crack head and they have children together?

You have no idea what's going on and cut and dried; black and white narrow minded options aren't always practical.

I know she wasn't playing around on him online while he was in Alcatraz. The Rock closed in 1963
 

karrie

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You both are responding to a scenario in your minds. There are many scenarios that could mean a key logger is a good idea.

Maybe he has children with her. Maybe he doesn't want to "buy her a house." Maybe there are cultural implications for her and him so proof is essential.

I think supposing you know what is happening is dangerous.

knowing makes no real difference. He's gonna pay regardless. The courts don't care about the other stuff.

It's a marriage. It's broken. Fix it or leave. It sounds ridiculously simple, I know, but that's the way it is.
 

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So you guys have never heard of rebuilding trust? Just throw it all away? When the going gets tough walk away - is that it?
 

karrie

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So you guys have never heard of rebuilding trust? Just throw it all away? When the going gets tough walk away - is that it?

what part of fix it or leave it did you not get?

And no... violating her privacy is in NO way shape or form going to rebuild trust.

Rebuilding trust would start with sitting her down and explaining that you're scared she's cheating on you, and that if you can be thinking that way, it's symptomatic of a grave problem in the marriage which should be addressed through counseling or some form of intervention. And if trust can't be achieved, leaving is a last resort, but a resort nonetheless.

Keyloggers and other such tactics just drive more wedges into an already weakened marriage. They don't help it. They rip it apart. Nail in the coffin analogy would work here.
 

lone wolf

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What is the secret to rebuilding trust? Once it's been cracked, how do you forget it? Forgiveness is the easy part. It's re-growing the innocence that's next to impossible.
 

karrie

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What is the secret to rebuilding trust? Once it's been cracked, how do you forget it? Forgiveness is the easy part. It's re-growing the innocence that's next to impossible.

It's hard but not impossible. It just takes time and effort from both sides. The biggest struggle is to not use past screw ups as ammunition to tear everything down again everytime there's another problem or argument. Once you can master that, you're on a good road.
 

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what part of fix it or leave it did you not get?

Your argument is faulty because your excluding the middle and making hasty generalizations.

And no... violating her privacy is in NO way shape or form going to rebuild trust.

It might show that she can be trusted and he needs medication. It might show he was right and needs an AIDs test. Either way he'll have a better idea of how to proceed.

Rebuilding trust would start with sitting her down and explaining that you're scared she's cheating on you, and that if you can be thinking that way, it's symptomatic of a grave problem in the marriage which should be addressed through counseling or some form of intervention.

Get real, many women and especially the ones who like to cheat would roast a guy like that before breakfast. She married this guy because she liked him. He probably isn't the sort you like but your not married to him.

And if trust can't be achieved, leaving is a last resort, but a resort nonetheless.

Your assuming some kind of build up to this problem. Maybe this is recent and she's good at hiding it?

Keyloggers and other such tactics just drive more wedges into an already weakened marriage. They don't help it. They rip it apart. Nail in the coffin analogy would work here.

It isn't logical to make sweeping generalizations like that. What is true for some isn't true for everyone and every situation.

I knew a couple one time where the wife liked to cheat. The husband would find out about it, put the guy in the hospital, and their marriage was great for about a year after, then the whole thing would start over. Very entertaining to watch.

My point is that the world takes all kinds and it's different strokes for different folks.

Sometimes you have to give adults the benefit of the doubt. You might run your marriage well but you wouldn't run them all so well.
 

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What is the secret to rebuilding trust? Once it's been cracked, how do you forget it? Forgiveness is the easy part. It's re-growing the innocence that's next to impossible.

Why would you assume there was any trust to start with!?!?!?!?!?!

Maybe it's an arranged marriage? Maybe mail order? Maybe so dysfunctional all they have is there codependency?

You don't have any idea what's going on. Your just telling us about yourself.
 

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Why would you assume there was any trust to start with!?!?!?!?!?!

Maybe it's an arranged marriage? Maybe mail order? Maybe so dysfunctional all they have is there codependency?

You don't have any idea what's going on. Your just telling us about yourself.

Are you referring to the OP? ...the guy who's wife was accused of cheating online ... in 1963?

That's some REALLY BIG assumptions on your part. All I can relate to is my experience. You know? Reality?
 

karrie

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No Scott. Just because people do it and make it through, doesn't make it a healthy path to take for ANYone. Sneaking around, helping lay the groundwork for a marriage full of mistrust, and spying on one another, is a recipe for disaster. Bad bad idea. But then, Russian roulette is too, but some people survive it. In the end, you're right, it's his call as an adult.
 

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Are you referring to the OP? ...the guy who's wife was accused of cheating online ... in 1963?

That's some REALLY BIG assumptions on your part. All I can relate to is my experience. You know? Reality?

The OP has been edited.

That's pathetic.
 

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To be fair, maybe one of them Visited Alcatraz at a visit, I doubt the post was Coherent, probably a drunk post.

As for wanting proof and violating privacy.

Tough. If she is cheating then yes, you do need proof.

If a man goes into a divorce hearing to leave his wife because he thinks she's cheating on him. He will lose everything and be branded a paranoid loser who doesn't know the meaning of trust.

If a man has proof his wife is cheating, he can gain a much better financial settlement as now he's not a paranoid loser who doesn't know the meaning of trust, he is someone who had his trust abused. It is still likely to be against his favour (gender equality is still absent from the court), but far less so.

The marriage is over, the question is do you end up living in a dumpster because your wife cheated on you, or do you get at least some of your lifes work in your name?

Half of that is a sales pitch, other versions include wives who want to ensure their husband ends up a penniless vagrant.
 

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No Scott. Just because people do it and make it through, doesn't make it a healthy path to take for ANYone. Sneaking around, helping lay the groundwork for a marriage full of mistrust, and spying on one another, is a recipe for disaster. Bad bad idea. But then, Russian roulette is too, but some people survive it. In the end, you're right, it's his call as an adult.

The OP was edited. This conversation is over.

It is pretty pathetic to change a post just because you can't win an argument. I mean really :angryfire:, that is hugely pathetic.

I'm not saying you did that karrie but someone did it for you.
 

karrie

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The OP was edited. This conversation is over.

It is pretty pathetic to change a post just because you can't win an argument. I mean really :angryfire:, that is hugely pathetic.

I'm not saying you did that karrie but someone did it for you.

What changed in it? And why on earth would the OP make one lick of difference in my assertion? Paranoid much Scott?
 

Scott Free

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What changed in it? And why on earth would the OP make one lick of difference in my assertion?

No, your still assuming too much and denying the middle ground. I think it might be from a lack of life experience. What your suggesting is great if you already have some level of function. I've seen too many relationships where the people involved had never trusted anyone let alone their spouse. You can say that's wrong till your blue in the face but it isn't going to change the facts.

Paranoid much Scott?

Not usually but one of my posts was edited then the OP was edited.

Paranoid insinuates my concern isn't founded. Mine is founded.